Stupid companies pay out of the ass where I am for data entry. I get paid $29 an hour to do data entry. It's comfy as fuck.
Landon Lee
Nobody hires off of job sites any more. Most of what you find on Indeed is a scam to get your info or a fake posting being used to justify an H1-B hire.
If you're trying to break into Tech from the outside your best bet is nepotism or talking to a tech recruiter.
Lucas Watson
>your best bet is nepotism
This, OP. It's really simple.
Go get someone you know to give you a job. If that doesn't work, go pretend to be someone else's son and have them give you a job.
Brody Sullivan
lol
Alexander Ward
become a NEET.
submit your application in this thread. I'll look it over for you.
Jackson Ramirez
If it was at least $35/hr I'd consider it... but rent is about 2k a month in SF
already used my nepotism credit for an interview... why the fuck is there so many coders now... it wasn't this hard when I got started in tech and sure was hell wasn't that hard last year
I can't be a NEET, got too many people to prove wrong to become that for now.
Kevin Hall
>SF move elsewhere dude, you're competing with all kinds of genius from every corner of the world
Thomas Thomas
Shit are you me? Im at about the same boat. but with ~3 years of C++ XP. I guess it's the wrong middle ground between junior and mid-senior level.
I've been getting hits from meta-recruiters like Underdog, A-List & Hired. Or do hackerrank puzzles until you get a callback.
Angel Davis
ok calm down naruto
Dominic Reyes
>I get paid $29 an hour to do data entry. It's comfy as fuck. Let me guess, you work for a government doing work that requires a security clearance right?
Josiah Gutierrez
> but rent is about 2k a month in SF > why the fuck is there so many coders now
Found your problem. Every faggot with sublime text and a macbook goes to SF to try to strike it rich. Leave that AIDS-ridden backward communist shithole and go find a job in the mountain west, the interior plains, or the midwest.
I promise you you'll find a job easier and live better on $70k in a place like Columbus OH or Oklahoma City than you would on $120k in San Francisco.
Mason Davis
>Every faggot with sublime text and a macbook goes to SF to try to strike it rich.
So it's some sort of new "gold rush"?
>tfw "muh code rush"
Kayden Walker
I know, but literally everything is stable for me here, rent is locked at a reasonable 2k, good gym, safeway and target in walking distance, know a great bar tender serving great german beer. I just need to get a job really... done it twice so far. I nail the tech stuff. It's just age-ism and affirmative action keeping me out of it.
We'll make it...
Connor Hall
>age-ism How old are you?
Mason Sullivan
>affirmative action AKA "virtue signalling"
William Brooks
You can get a room in SF for less than $1k if you're willing to lower your standards.
Josiah Ramirez
If you are older than 25 no one will hire you for non-senior level work in the tech field.
Nolan Scott
Were you recently laid off? Don't you have contacts?
Jackson Ross
>age-ism
>user turns 15 >"Sorry user you are to young for a job, come back when you're grown up." >user turns 20 >"Well user, you are still too young and inexperienced for an intellectual job, so all you can do is physical labor for now. Come back when you have a degree and more experience." >user turns 25 >"Nice user, you have graduated and now you can work with us. But, keep in mind that you're STILL young and inexperienced, so the salary won't be very high." >user turns 30 >"I'm sorry user, but you're too superannuated now for our young and dynamic team, and we must part ways. Thanks and best of luck to you, bye."
Ryder Davis
>Nobody hires off of job sites any more.
But that's wrong. I got my current dev job from craigslist. No nepotism, no knowing someone inside the company, no gazillion linkedin connections.
Luke Sanders
Midwest here #licensetoILL.
The prices I see out there in fag land is hilarious to me. My mortgage is only $325 and that includes property tax.
Ethan Ross
Train as a mechanic? I am a diesel mechanic getting $87k+ (+$15k annually, killing feral swine in my spare time) a year in Texas.
Xavier Carter
Is that indeed so? If so, what are the career options for a person older than 30, or even 40, who had been focused on the tech industry? How are they supposed to reach retirement if 25 is "too old" for junior positions, and 30-35 is "too old" for anything really unless you somehow got promoted to at least lower-middle management?
Nathan Russell
>killing feral swine
Why? Feral swine killed some islamists in the Middle East recently.
Camden Nguyen
>B8u no oteri wa doko desu ka? Feral swine wreck environmental and economic havoc on private property, ranches and farms.
Ryan Brown
Lol don't listen to that guy, it's normally guys who are 21-25 trying to hold on to their idea of youth who make those comments, 30-40 isn't old. Go for any position you think you are qualified for.
Easton Walker
fucking kek
Evan Price
So age 25-30 for employees is like the optimal RPM range for a race car engine where it outputs most power, and just as a racecar driver is trying to keep RPM within this optimal range whenever possible, employers are trying to keep the bulk of the workforce in the age range 25-30? If so, then what about 's concernes? Obviously a tiny minority gets promoted to management, what with the rest?
Ryan Morris
Not that they killed them intentionally though. A bunch of ISIS sandniggers basically got cought in a stampede of a large group of wild boar. But yea, killed by swine one way or another was one of the worst deaths for them.
How about capturing them instead and once you have MANY MANY MANY ship them to the middle east and deploy them there. youtube.com/watch?v=urY33QxtDWQ
Caleb Foster
This, OP. Move to Missouri, we're in the middle of a tech boom.
Luis Moore
28
I've burnt out on craigslist,
once my savings run out then I'll move back to my parents and apply anywhere. Any tips on where to apply or how to get a job w/ relocation help?
I'm about had it with this city anywayz
Bentley Murphy
Move and don't burn your savings, stop being silly. You can move again later. You should move where it's cheaper to survive to build savings for your inevitable career change, old man.
The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
Connor Williams
I know no one else outside of California is the thing, all my family and friends are here.
Then again, not like I hang out with those people anymore...
At the end of the day, I'd like to work somewhere where I don't have to drive - or have a 2 hour commute. That really just means working at cities... and I feel like it'll be the same situation in Austin or New York.
Thoughts?
Bentley Morgan
>using XP in 2017 No wonder nobody wants you.
Angel Adams
Move to Denver and visit user, >Weed >Growing tech market >Thin atmosphere >Everyone is obsessed with health Best city in the world
Hudson Williams
Look for Google search for local contractor companies and see if they know of any openings. It is literally their job to find tech people jobs so they can earn a commission of you getting hired. Also try big name ones like Robert Half technology.
Look for localling tech meetups related to your code language of choice, devops, aws, web development, whatever. Lots of people go to these and they may know of companies hiring.
Jacob Long
You're 28 and you say you suffer from ageism when looking for work? They how old are you supposed to be to work in tech these days? 22?
Nicholas Lewis
Check GovernmentJobs too. Posting from a comfy support job I found there.
Christopher Butler
Not him but here in atlantic Canada it seems like you need to be 18 with 20 years experience to get a job cleaning toilets
Kayden Harris
Guys I need quick advice. How much would a 6/10 to 7/10 unity/unreal developer get in Cali? Are there such jobs in there?
Wyatt Torres
Don't do this
Nolan Howard
yes
Luis Gonzalez
>he wants to become a wagecuck
Jace Walker
>SF >jobless for months >getting fuck all responses from Indeed >won't take a job under 70k because reasons Are you me OP? Wanna hang out? As long as you're not a Pajeet. I'm East Bay though.
Anthony Gomez
Ubisoft is at my backyard (San Francisco), they seem to always be hiring, but they never get back to any of my applications...
Salary wise - 75kish.
I've interviewed with Unity recently (no offer since you require more experience), people I talked too were great, and the offer was 80-100k range. Although I swear I was about to storm out of that interview when my soon to be manager drew a system diagram with the users connected to the database which was connected to the backend server... I pointed that out and they defended it... (later interviews confirmed, no that wasn't how it worked)
Caljobs is full of Cybercoders(tm) job phishing... I refuse to code for $25/hr with a 2 hour commute to San Jose
Sebastian Baker
bump :)
Aaron Hall
become a NEET who trades penny stocks and trades in BTC.
I just bought a new Ryzen5 system with this months earnings
Xavier Carter
teach me your ways... I have 5k ready to invest
Jayden Wilson
>your best bet is nepotism Fuck. So much this.
>hired in the UK >CTO is the perfect definition of an idiot who builds computers to feel l33t >his dad "sold him" his shares of the company FF >C++ job at intel >Managed projects across two continent in three countries >Plethora of technologies and languages with proven track >Handled shareholders virtually since I left Uni >Didn't even make it to the technical interview.
Fuck this gay earth
Logan White
Not that user but >open anonymous btc account at simplefx >trade btc >get credit cards from spectrocoin to spend your illegal money >trade more and develop your own systems since you know how to program already
Christopher Smith
OP, move to the midwest. I'm in Kansas currently, just graduated, and have had several tech related job offers.
Thant being said, I really hope people dont catch on as to whats going on here. They can keep the "code rush" on the west coast.
For python faggotry, Khan Academy and Edx.org both hire remote python/django programmers.
Christopher Price
Forget bitcoin buy Zcash, the people responsible for it are actually competent cryptographers z.cash.foundation//about/
Caleb Baker
Same here friendo. I couldn't work if I wanted to. 2.5 months in. All I got was calls from recruiters and consultant companies willing to pay 50k for jr. positions when just a year ago these kinds of positions would pay over 70k in my area
Carter Sanchez
What exactly is data entry? Just filling in excel spreadsheets?
Gavin Turner
What can I look for in an interview to know if I will get an offer or not? I have had a few which have said the "we'll get back to you in about a week" and it never happens even though I do the interview fairly well
Jason Carter
It's impossible to know.
They could have really liked you and thought you're the one, but they interview the next guy and like that guy even more.