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Lol, just found this on Reddit, got a good chuckle
>I'm 15 years old, installed Gentoo, when I was 12 (I remember being too young to join the forums) and stayed, because it was awesome. Binary distros was hard to manage, and updates were slow. Gentoo just worked. I use it for desktop, hardest part is resolving the conflicts, otherwise it is really easy to maintain, even if you use patches or want the latest version of some packages. I like, that I can filter licenses in the make.conf, so it is not going to install proprietary software, without my awareness.
>I'm in secondary school right now. I like to hack on python code. I'm a christian.
Kevin Morgan
Pay toilets are nasty, and ought to be illegal. Those of us who are not poor can afford the price, if we accept the practice; poor people can't. To deny people access to a toilet when they need one is nasty and degrading.
I have concluded that the least we can do, to eliminate pay toilets, is to avoid giving them money. Instead of paying them, I go to great lengths to find some other toilet.
Please join me in rejecting pay toilets firmly.
Zachary Watson
I asked in the previous thread and it got derailed by toilets.
I'm trying to install Ubuntu 17.04 on a thinkpad t470 and on the livecd it says I'm connected to wifi, but I have no internet. I plugged in the ethernet cord and it just loads forever, no connection. I'm the same guy who tried to install debian and got nowhere. I don't really know what to do and I'm pissed. Wat do?
Copy pasting in this thread because there's two now.
Bentley Phillips
sorry friend, this is /fgtt/ - Friendly GNU/Toilet Thread.
Justin Diaz
That is very odd. Usually Ubuntu is good about wifi and networking stuff. I'm not sure what the problem is
Sebastian Martin
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Henry Hall
I only saw a pay toilet once, and it was in mexico. This is a 3rd world thing right?
Samuel Mitchell
So what should I do? I tried Xubuntu and Kubuntu. Neither worked. I just want to get rid of fucking Windows 10.
Landon Rodriguez
No, I remember seeing them in England one time. This was a long time ago though, not sure how prevalent they are now.
Jordan Foster
Are you in the liveCD now? Try running: ifconfig -a
This lists the network cards. What does it say
Hunter Adams
What are some free public toilets?
Ryan White
This image is very triggering, I'll ask kindly for it to be deleted.
Jordan Thompson
No, Im in windows now, do you just want to know what network card I have? I took this screenshot earlier.
>night in the city >out with friends >need to take a shit >the botnet wants me to shit my pants
Gabriel Lewis
It's your fault for having a bad diet and not taking care of business before going out with friends.
Henry Martin
wait, there are toilets you can pay with card?
Owen Thomas
Yes, unfortunately.... Very sad.
Thomas Wilson
> I have a thinkpad t470. >The whole reason I got this laptop was to get more experience with Linux
You done fucked up nigga. You should have gotten the T420
Jose Ortiz
>meanwhile at the nsa >"yout got mail!" >"user took a shit at street 42"
Jayden Cruz
Thats the point why RMS asks you to pay cash whenever you can.
Christian Green
I fell for the minimal install meme and my laptop can't detect wlan0 or eth0, how do I get them working? They were working fine during the setup but in tty they're not detected Same situation as the guy with a T470 but I have a T500
Noah Evans
Just tried it, won't let me run ifconfig as it is not installed.
seen a few in LA, but it is 3rd world here so it adds up. Thinking it's just so junkies don't shoot up in there and for bums to shit on the street instead.
Chase Reed
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Landon Cox
phone posting a picture of the screen because I have no idea how else to get the log onto my desktop, hope it's readable.
Justin Martinez
Hey /fglt/, sorry to bother, I was in the process of installing xubuntu and got 2 errors on the filecheck, should I format the pendrive and start again from step one using the universal usb installer?
Jace James
fuck off
Lincoln Hernandez
without compiling from source which distro has the most packages available?
Ryder Roberts
When will this systemd a botnet autism end? Why so many retards fall for it? It's beyond my understanding.
Bentley Sanders
Does gentoo hybrid installation already come with config for wireless? I'm on a i7 gen 2.
Eli Phillips
It's cool to be against systemd and it makes you look intelligent.
Christian Thomas
Someone has proof about the systemd NSA botnet or wathever? never was clear what is the fucking deal with systemd
Owen Turner
could guys please explain, with newbe friendly words, what's wrong with systend?
David Martin
if you take ppas into consideration then probably the buntu family
Charles Lopez
i mean from the systemd-less distros
Christian Williams
Systemd is free software. Some people think because it's a large program, it makes a large attack surface, combined with NSA paranoia (Red Hat and the NSA have been working together in the past), tinfoilhats are shitting theit pants for no reason. Source if available, everyone call read it and complain (and people do so).
ok, but why discount installing from source, or mkpkg files? once you have the tools installed it's no big deal to do, you can even integrate it into your gui package manager
Jason Stewart
Aren't binary distros complete waste when it comes to security? I mean, you literally get some unknown binary compiled from literally who.
Easton Cruz
that's not how free software works you can track back everything and have checksums with your package manager
Robert Ramirez
Aren't source based distros a complete waste when it comes to security? I mean, who has the fucking time to read through all that source code
Connor Richardson
WTF IM AN OPENRC MISSLE NOW!
Tyler Williams
Aren't personal computers a complete waste when it comes to security? I mean, you literally save important data to a large attack surface and connect it to the internet.
Elijah Williams
computers were a mistake
we fought thousands of years for basic civilisation and now we're back at the beginning, digital life is ruled by the botnet
James Barnes
>we fought No I didn't.
Elijah Harris
>proprietary software was a mistake FTFY
Tyler Perez
basically this it isn't even a large program. compared to runit, it's pretty large (about 15 times as many lines of code), but it really isn't very big (300K lines for the entire suite, including udev as of a few years ago). Meanwhile, the kernel and firefox+chromium are both nearing 20 million, Xorg has millions. If you actually care about bloat and want to avoid overcomplicated, insecure software, you should be using tty or wayland instead of X.
Nicholas Rogers
I don't understand why all the dick measuring though, I suppose everyone aim for mostly the same thing here, security, maybe work with code or whatever... and browse.
Lincoln Anderson
>complains about systemd being botnet >runs nonfree firmware /topic
Leo Sanchez
I'm on Arch Linux.
Oliver Lewis
bad thread
Eli Brown
Is Tails bad? I'm trying to search for an OS, have been a windowsfag all my life, wanted to start working at it.
Asher Watson
install ubunut
Asher Phillips
Will do.
Easton Morales
perfect
Julian Walker
tails isn't meant to be installed and I don't consider it viable for a daily driver as a liveusb
Jaxon Allen
what is the best viable daily driver?
Ayden Perez
bad post
Grayson Powell
Source Mage GNU/Linux
Jackson Campbell
for most folks it's the bunt with it's wide array of available up to date software, the ability to add ppas easily, and relative stability personally I prefer a rolling release model like arch. it's more work to do the initial setup and you have to pay attention to things when updating but with aur virtually everything that can run on linux is available and relatively current
Hunter Lewis
GNU/Linux*
Isaiah Fisher
How is it possible for a kernel written in C to work?
I mean how do you even declare an int without entering an infinite syscall loop?
Anthony Russell
stop trying to co-opt torvalds work and go contribute to hurd
Nathan Peterson
no, linux is only 10% c code, most of it it nodejs
Grayson Thompson
>daily driver Kill yourself to rid the world of buzzphrases and this thread of stupid people proud of their ignorance.
Ethan Cooper
The new Arch Linux
Kevin Wood
Friendly thread.
Connor Adams
kek
Bentley Brooks
>buzzword it's a concise description shitstain
Liam Barnes
>2 minutes to reply
You could have spent the time learning how to program and to write a simple utility which would post it automatically. Instead you chose to bikeshed about something trivial in order to feel smart.
Jacob Clark
>torvalds work >activly destroying free software by shilling nonfree software >contributed like 2% of linux good work linus!
Chase Parker
why not just call it an OS though? can't get much more concise than two letters
Sebastian Watson
OK, so what would call it instead
Adrian Howard
No, it's not. Every distribution can be a "daily driver" idiot, since it's completely subjective. Therefore it's not a "concise description". People who use that phrase blatantly signal that they don't intend to use any distribution, that they're only in it to write a few words in their terminal emulator once in a while when they boot from their Windows computer into their Linux distribution.
Samuel Nelson
It isn't trivial.
John Russell
I call it a Linux distribution. Everything you install on your computer is a "daily driver". Of course that implies that you're a normal person and not someone who does this .
Oliver Diaz
>People who use that phrase blatantly signal that they don't intend to use any distribution, that they're only in it to write a few words in their terminal emulator once in a while when they boot from their Windows computer into their Linux distribution. Uh no, I think they're signalling that they're going to use it as their daily driver.
Ryan Adams
because to go your way it would be necessary to not just say os but os for daily use >if you're not 1337 then you're not really using linux ok friend
Jonathan Perry
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
Aaron Fisher
>the year is 2024 >JS has taken over as the dominant language >bootloaders and device firmwares are written with electron >the final steps of refactoring the kernel into node are almost done >systemd has been rewritten in angular
>if you're not 1337 then you're not really using linux If that's what you got out of that, then you should go back to elementary school to get some sort of reading comprehension.
Robert Morgan
>only in it to write a few words in a terminal emulator that implies that anyone who doesn't heavily use the terminal isn't really using linux, if that's not what you meant to say then work on expressing yourself better, if it is then my comprehension is spot on
Leo Roberts
Linux is the name of the kernel that Linus Torvalds developed starting in 1991. The operating system in which Linux is used is basically GNU with Linux added. To call the whole system “Linux” is both unfair and confusing. Please call the complete system GNU/Linux, both to give the GNU Project credit and to distinguish the whole system from the kernel alone.
Adam Rogers
i want to reinstall debian except the first time i did it killed the ethernet and onboard wifi drivers, so my question if theres some way to use windows drivers or use drivers from another distro like fedora to install it
John Nelson
firstly, it would be linux/gnu not the other way around secondly shit gets shortened all the time, deal with it
