Post your component list; rate other anons'; ask questions in general.
>Assemble your parts list with price comparisons & compatibility filter. pcpartpicker.com/
THEN state the PURPOSE of your PC & BUDGET. State COUNTRY if not USA. List GAMES/SOFTWARE you use often. List resolution & hz if gaming. Seeking build improvements? Clarify goal: lower price or improved specs? ctrl+f to see if your question was answered already
CPUs: >G4560 - budget builds (R5 1500x - generally all you need for 60fps with power to spare. No i5 >R5 1600 - best value for higher fps gaming & mixed usage; 1600x if you too lazy to OC >i7-7700k - bad value but good for higher FPS; may have heat issues >R7/Xeon/Threadripper/i9 - compute/Multitask/mixed use
Graphics: >G4560 iGPU is fine for desktop stuff and very light game >1050Ti for low budget. Drop settings if not Freesync/Gsync on newer games; RX560 if discounted RX570 4GB - 1080p@60+hz, running most maxed; older games at 144+hz >RX580 8GB - 1440p@60+hz, inject SMAA & drop settings >1060 - Generally outperformed by the RX 580 and GSync costs more; consider if AMD is not an option (ie CUDA/miners buying all RX570s) >1070 - if on heavy sale-ish >1080 - 1080p@100-144+hz maxed; 1440p at lower hz. >1080Ti - 1440p@90-144+hz; 4k@60hz in SOME games, more at lower settings
General: >READ PRODUCT REVIEWS to see if that cheap SSD/PSU or whatever is reliable >Consider larger SSD-only for what you budget SSD+HDD combined. Add HDD later once needed >NVMe aren't for faster OS boot. They're primarily for productivity/scratch disk/VMs >Stop confusing any M.2 drive with NVMe. M.2 is a form factor >mATX board + case is often cheaper >1 SR DIMM is slower than 2 DIMMs
How jewish is Newegg when it comes to price matching? I don't want to buy a $40 212 from them just for them to turn around and try to tell me that Amazon's one costs that much with shipping or some bullshit.
anyone know where i can get screws in general for a build?
Josiah Sanchez
Are 1060s sold out?
Ayden Rodriguez
Home depot
Jordan Williams
pcpartpicker.com/list/XN9Q2R Alright, I've got my parts all picked out, and I'm ready to sale-hunt. Is Part Picker good enough to watch for price changes? What are good sites to keep an eye on? Are there any good rebates, coupons or combos out there?
Jayden Hall
Nope.
John Cox
Just dumped my piece of shit 980ti, should I buy a 1080ti now or wait for the next gen of cards? When are they coming?
Chase Bailey
>tfw fell for the SSD meme
Adam Foster
wait for VEGA
Jacob Gutierrez
Wait for Vega or Volta. A 980ti is still good enough for gaming at the moment. What games are you playing that you can't currently max out?
Ryan Morales
The 980 Ti is good though.
Oliver Harris
Rate this build please. Total would be about 820€, but I plan to wait a couple months in hopes of a slight decrease when threadrippers come out
Amd ryzen 1600 MSI B350 PC mate mainboard Gigabyte RX 580 Gaming 8G be quiet pure power 10 500W CM psu SanDisk 240gb ssd Cheapest 8gb of ddr4 ram I could find (2133) Nanoxia deep silence 3 case
Josiah Foster
>I'm ready to sale-hunt. >580 Hey. Whoever does the OP. Please put in a line to tell people to snatch the fuck out of any 580 stock they run across or to drop them from their build due to stock shortage.
Jeremiah Jackson
Going to have a go at overclocking for the first time. What would you say are the standard benchmarking and monitoring software used? There seems to be a whole slew of them. Two cases even have similar names: HWMonitor, HWiINFO and wPrime, Prime95.
For the actual OC'ing I've downloaded Ryzen Master for CPU & memory, and MSI Afterburner for my GPU. But as I understand it I can do my CPU and memory all from the BIOS, too? I don't know how true this is, but I've read on some sites that they had more luck getting higher speeds for their memory through Ryzen Master than the BIOS itself.
Blake Perez
You might want to consider VEGA cards since you plan to wait a couple of months.
>Cheapest 8gb of ddr4 ram I could find (2133) Ryzen benefits a lot from high frequency RAM. Get 3000mhz minimum.
Asher Nguyen
You need something to benchmark your OC as well or at least test stability. Get Furmark for GPU. Prime is fine for CPU.
Juan Campbell
The 1080 Ti is a game changer. I've replaced my 980 Tis in SLI with a single 1080 Ti and haven't regretted it. More games benefit from a single stronger card than two weaker ones. The 980 Ti is old news, it probably can't even keep up in a lot of games. Replace that old card, it's worth it.
Alexander Edwards
What's the best motherboard, performance-wise, for an 1800x?
Ayden Bailey
Gigabyte Aorus gaming.
Nathaniel Murphy
Unless you are gaming in 4k there are no games that hugely benefit from 1080ti over 980ti that is worth the upgrade price. Only do this if you are rich and have money to burn.
I've been living with it crashing like a cunt for the last month and I'm just done with it. It's currently away on an RMA, hopefully they'll accept it, if not I'm just going to eBay it when it gets back.
>vega >volta When?
>What games are you playing that you can't currently max out? None, I'm just a child and my 980ti pissed me off so I need something new.
Tyler Gomez
VEGA is in the new iMac so im expecting it to be released very soon
Luke Russell
The K7, I'm assuming?
Also not sure what kind of cooler to get.
Hudson Jackson
Either a Noctua nh-d15 or a 240/280 aio, depending on what your case supports.
Joshua Cook
What's the best aftermarket RX 580?
Assuming that they'll be available in the future
James Jenkins
Either the top xfx or the sapphire nitro +
Aiden Ramirez
Sapphire makes the best AMD cards.
Matthew Moore
Second for sapphire nitro. Also Gigabyte Aurorus
Juan Hernandez
Thanks fampaitachi
I hope once the Vega comes out miners will flock to that but they probably won't
Luke Murphy
Depends on Vegas price to compute ratio as well as Eth current bubble.
One tend to cool better than the other or are they about the same?
Aaron Cooper
Why, no?
Justin Green
For the same reasons why you want it.
Ayden Murphy
They're about the same but AIOs are louder and will cost anywhere from $30-50 more.
Matthew Hughes
I see. Okay.
Dylan Anderson
how easy is it to damage your components when assembling a PC as a beginner?
Tyler Long
Easy if you don't know what to do or where what goes.
Ryan Ramirez
It's literally Lego for adults. Unless your retarded, you can do it without breaking anything.
Just watch a few PC building guides before hand, even watch one while your doing it if you need to.
Logan Sanders
It is easier to injury yourself than the components if you are a beginner. Some of the edges are deceptively sharp like the backplate of mobo.
Jaxon Butler
>buy R5 >buy AM4 mobo >plug monitor into mobo >dock stars off review when non-existent integrated graphics doesn't work
why do retards do this
Noah Nguyen
>Founders edition No.
Evan Rodriguez
Not this poster, but I recommend watching a BitWit or Tech Deals full build video.
Chase Stewart
Same reason people dock stars off of TN panels for not being IPS
Jose Stewart
Ok but it was only 20 bucks more than the cheapest 1080 ti chipset on the market.
Landon Lee
It's also a bigger housefire than the 7700k
Lucas Jones
maybe this is a dumb question, but a does the case and mobo come with all the screws you need?
Austin Myers
Oh. Damn. Roasted. In more than one ways.
So, cheaper 1080 ti? Got it.
Kevin Scott
Case comes with all the screws need to mount your mobo
Jonathan Stewart
Your Case should have mounting holes for the motherboard of your size, and the motherboard should come with the screws.
Isaiah Rodriguez
Corsair H55 or Cooler Master MasterAir Pro 4? Im planning to overclock 1600X to over 3.8GHz. Is it worth it to geth a water cooler
Carter Rodriguez
You can do a 1600 at 3.8 with the stock cooler. Is that an option for you or do you really need the lower vcore?
Ryder Martinez
I bought DDR4 ram that is clocked at 3000 mhz but in the bios it says my two sticks are running at 2133. Will it break anyhting if i change it to 3000 in the bios? I have a Ryzen 7 1700 and MSI b350 tomahawk motherboard. Please help, I don''t want to break my pc but i don't want to have wasted money on getting these faster sticks of ram
Ayden Collins
That's expected, use AXMP instead of setting it yourself but you may have to fiddle with it yourself if AXMP doesn't do the trick.
Also make sure your BIOS is updated.
Kevin Adams
>Will it break anyhting if i change it to 3000 in the bios? no. Though the system MAY not boot due to an instability issue. Keep on top of bios updates as they WILL fix this issue. Little hiccups like this are commonplace with Ryzen, so they're definitely working on it.
Liam Jackson
It's called flashing your bios right? Thank you user, I'll look up video tutorials of flashing. For now I'll just wait till updates stabilize everything and stick with 2133 in the meantime.
Joshua Gray
>tfw not some cuck who spends 8 gorillion dollars every couple years on a new PC I just got a prebuilt Dell with an a sandy bridge i7 and RX 570. Should last me a while, it's sad how you all lack patience. Yes I'm a poorfag.
MSI is on top of the game when it comes to RAM support. The Tomahawk is a-okay for XMP, just UPDATE.
Which sticks are you using by the way, they are supported by the mobo right?
Luke Torres
go onto your motherboard manufacturers website and navigate to toe page specifically for your motherboard. Click on the support tab and look for the latest bios revision. If it's never than the bios in yourmotherboard, download the update and put it onto a USB flash drive. Then, restart the computer and go into the bios with the USB drive plugged in. You should be able to update the BIOS from the flash drive through some option there. Most motherboards also allow you to update directly from the internet through the bios, but it's a LOT safer to do it from a local storage device. here. He goes through it here. youtube.com/watch?v=gHAelSOF6f0
Bentley James
Any help anons?
Recently built a PC, including a G1 gaming GTX1070. Attempted to boot GTA 5 and benchmark today, got a quality 23.4 FPS. What the fuck is wrong with my 400 dollar graphics card? Checked the bios, the card settings, have all the new drivers, processor is a core I7 7700K at 4.2 Ghz, and psu is a corsair 650i. Why won't this shit work Bruh
Asher Nelson
>If it's never newer.
Carson Miller
If I'm gonna exclusively use my pc for gaming and don't have much need for the extra cores of the 1600, is the 7600k a better choice?
Doesn't mean it won't work, just means you might not get the max speeds out of it.
If you haven't updated your BIOS yet, just download the latest one.
Aaron Martin
no. The I5 does not make sense. a 1600 will make more sense. That said, if you want a PC strictly for gaming, grab an i7 7700k. Nothing outperforms it in gaming. >AMDrones we go where the best performance for the dollar is user. Intel can't do that anymore. They recently shot themselves in the foot with the X299 release.
Michael Reed
I would say yes, but where I live it's also twice as expensive so I went with 1600 anyway.
Dylan Cooper
never start your post with "newfag here" thanks
Elijah Miller
You've probably
1. Forgot to plug in the 8pin power cable from the PSU to the GPU 2. Forgot to plug your monitor into the GPU in the first place
Andrew Wood
And I plugged in the 8 pin connector to the psu.
Isaiah Bennett
lmoaaa
Brayden Morgan
>I just plugged it into the PCLe Lmao
Samuel Turner
How did they? More than likely they will clock higher than AMD's offerings and outperform them. Will they cost more? Yes. Does it matter? No. >inb4 shill
Alexander Thompson
Did both of those things, just forgot that I did.
Benjamin Smith
>wow it clocks 1% higher, that means its justified to spend $200 more!
lmao
Austin Torres
>For the record, your mobo does not have support for that specific module Looks like I won't be touching anything. I just know what will happen, I will try to increase the ram speed and my pc dies. What's the danger in trying to turn on XAMP for my ram? Thank you user
Easton Sanders
>Ryzen benefits a lot from high frequency RAM. Get 3000mhz minimum. hello no. he isn't playing at 720p with a GTX 1080, which is how the benchmarks were done. he won't be GPU limited nor using a 165hz screen. he won't see any difference
Connor Allen
Some of us can afford the premium, I appreciate AMD for making my wallet happier. It'll be more than 1%.
Grayson Hughes
Idk senpai did you even bother signing up for the exclusive geforce experience™
What settings are you running GTA on? Is the CPU overclocked, underclocked? Is the GPU under clocked? Is the ram working fine?
Adrian Reed
It's not just a question of whether the 7600K offers better performance in a particular area (and it's worth noting that in some games, its performance is worse, probably down to the lack of HT). You also have to factor in the Z270 and aftermarket cooler. At that point, the spotty performance benefit can't justify the larger pricetag.
Jace Morales
>it clocks slightly higher >That means it's worth spending twice as much no. fuck off Intel shill. If Intel made a performance/cost king, I'd jump on that. But they don't. And I'm not the only one. youtube.com/watch?v=QJNRtGo5IMc youtube.com/watch?v=TWFzWRoVNnE
Hudson Foster
A quick google of the model number and AXMP brought up an MSI forum post claiming that the Tomahawk, after updates, can get 3200 sometimes, 2933 all the time
Ethan James
Everything is working like it should, my dude. Max settings, but I tried lowering them and it had absolutely no effect on the benchmark. I heard old drivers could fuck up ur framerate, so I uninstalled them and am currently downloading the newest driver. We'll see what happens when I finish installing that. Also heard GeForce experience was not that helpful in these situations. Ur thoughts?
Ian Peterson
Decent B350 MB: $100 Decent Z270: $100 Decent cooler: $30-40 (applies to the 1600x as well) Very helpful point, thanks user.
Samuel Stewart
Load up MSI afterburner and monitor stats in game if it still doesn't work. If not time to RMA your card.
Zachary Phillips
But this user said that my mobo doesn't support my specific ram so wouldn't changing the speed of it be bad? I feel like that I should be happy that it's even working but if it's actually safe then i would like to change the speeds to 2933
Cameron Davis
Oh yeah let me listen to two faggots who have affiliate links in all their videos and would profit from their viewers jumping ship to AMD and would likely receive kickbacks for their shilling.