>Getting started Get a good understanding of HTML, CSS and JavaScript. Everything you learn will have these as their base. The Mozilla Developer Network offers a good intro (no matter your browser choice) developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn/Getting_started_with_the_web
>implying anyone here actually makes money with web dev
Fucking hell, I want to learn this in order to drop my shitty job!
Jace Martinez
Your implications are contradictory.
Jose James
Best resources to learn D3.js? If you have knowledge on D3, how did you started?
Christopher Morgan
Interview for second web dev job coming up.
They seem desperate.
If they don't hire me after driving for 3 hours I'm going to be sad.
Owen Nelson
Been making money with web dev for ten years and am so sick of it. At this point I just want to go grow vegetables in the countryside
Bentley Clark
I work at insect mass rearing.
Do you want to switch places?
Kevin Baker
let us know how it went, user! What questions did they ask you? What were the job requirements?
Ian Martin
there's a tutorial on d3js website. if it's not enough buy an o'reilly book.
Noah Morales
how much should a JS programmer make a year? ballpark figure, redpill me
James Carter
Hey guys. I have some basic experience with JS and was looking to get into Ruby. Are there any starter books you think would be helpful?
Christopher Ward
Depends where you live and level of responsibility. Non-code monkeys in the valley make +$100k/yr
Ryan Gutierrez
Job requirements are exactly what I know. My first time seeing a listing where I had 100% of the list. I didn't even find them, the CEO hunted my ass down himself.
A lot better than my current gig where they said "You only need PHP" then launched me into full-stack dev and project lead of 3 clients for 20 an hour.
For questions they just wanted to see a code sample and wanted to know how long it would take to relocate.
possible to get a remote entry level job without CS degree?
Austin Perry
How do I create this widgets like virtual keyboards used by banks on my html?
Jose Moore
Use html/css to create the buttons, then use JS to add the functionality to them.
Connor Reed
>remote Damn near impossible to get remote jobs, but you might be one of the lucky ones.
But you can get a job in web dev without a degree. All you need is a strong portfolio and work experience and you will have a decent shot at it.
Luke Bailey
>near impossible
Why?
Not that user.
Jaxson Russell
With remote jobs you're competing with everyone right across the country, and in some cases the world (although US based companies usually only employ Americans). If you live outside the US and applying for US based remote jobs you're fucked.
Applying to jobs close to you is your best bet. But still go for the remote ones if you wish.
Camden Bell
Typescript vs elm?
Jeremiah Cook
What is the recommended way to learn JavaScript? I'm extremely comfortable in C so don't need to know the bare basics, but I'm not familiar with OOP or how to use languages for web dev purposes.
Adam King
That doesn't make any sense but thanks for trying.
Austin Reyes
You don't need to learn OOP. It can help, but no necessity. Just jump right into JS. It might piss you off at first, or it'll feel really nice for a change to not have to define types.
If you just can't deal with not having types, you get Typescript and enjoy much better compile time checking.
James Davis
> compile time In web dev?
Any recommended resources or are the "You Don't Know JS" books from the OP good?
Austin Smith
Not him but purely remote jobs are rare, expect high qualification and have big competition. Also distance will still matter because timezone and some sort of face-to-face meeting is expected. Best way is to get normal job and then ask for a chance to work remotely.
Luis Wood
Completely different, no?
Blake James
JS syntax crashcourse learnxinyminutes.com/docs/javascript/ "You Don't Know JS" is good, but probably not very useful, when you want to get to know the language first.
And like said, jump right in. You can use the chrome dev console to experiment. Just think of something and check the MDN or google for hints.
>compile time JavaScript is often "transpiled" You might use an alternative syntax like TypeScript or include new JS features in your code, that are then transpiled to to make them backwards compatible for older browsers. Don't worry about that right now though.
Juan Anderson
Coming from C background also I read "You don't know JS" and "Eloquent Javascript" Solved a bunch of problems on hackerrank and codewars in js after that
Thomas Edwards
I tried Eloquent JS once and absolutely hated it. It's a horrible introduction unless you're good at shittily explained maths.
Charles Kelly
Wait..
With React, do I additionally need to install MobX to get the same automatic state/data reactivity, that I have with Vue by default?
How is that not part of the React core? It's called "React" ffs
John Thompson
Can the same padding be used for multiple elements? I'm trying to make a background that goes over an h1 and img element but i'm having trouble figuring it out
Matthew Watson
>I'm trying to make a background that goes over an h1 and img element but i'm having trouble figuring it out sounds like you should wrap those 2 in another div and apply the background to that
Don't wana spoil much because the pajeets lurking in this thread would steal the wisdom and charge clients for .00001 cents/hour
Grayson Taylor
what are you working on guise? post your projects/ in-progress or whatever. I wanna get some inspiration
Owen Parker
thank for the tip sir ill make good use of it
Kayden Barnes
Elm. Anything complex enough to warrant more than a small .js file is worth bringing the big guns. And that's Elm. TypeScript is chock-full of gotchas and doesn't go far enough in its type system.
Noah Long
>this.setstate() yeah, I do that in the code, but I am just surprised, that that extra step is necessary. With Vue I modify the data directly and components update as necessary. That's what MobX enables you to do with its observables, right?
Charles Sanders
Why does WordPress echo things right into the HTML when I'm in debug mode? Isn't that what the log file is for?
Ian Sullivan
>tfw recent wagecuck and have to learn spring
on an unrelated note what does Sup Forums think of clojure?
Carson Gomez
I don't understand the last slide what is he doing painting over the screen?
There are plenty 3rd level domains, e.g. yourusername.github.io, or something.herokuapp.com
There are a few top level domains that allow free registration of 2nd level domains, like .tk, .ml, and few others. You can get those at freenom.com
Asher Ward
i just want a basic ass static website with a specific domain name. if i get a .com domain through google domains, can i make a google site for free (except for the $12 a year domain fee), is that how it works?
i get that it has these limitations: >No open use of Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) or JavaScript. JavaScript can be used within the confines of an embedded gadget or the HTML box. Inline CSS can be used within the webpage content area. >Limited use of HTML coding. HTML is checked and modified when saved, Javascript is made safe with Caja. CSS cannot be incorporated in the theme templates; however, inline CSS can be used within the webpage content area.
but if i just want a super basic static website, can i avoid paying a monthly fee for hosting and just use google sites or something?
what happens if i exceed the bandwidth limit? like what if i get 1000-10000 visitors who use 100-1000 kB of bandwidth each? is there adequate ddos protection?
Ethan Walker
>Google Sites is an app that's part of Google's Apps for Work.
>Other apps that are included are Gmail, Hangouts, Google+, Docs, Sheets and more. Apps for Work offers a free trial for those who wish to check it out, after which they'll be charged $5 a month or $10 a month for unlimited storage and access to the Vault feature.
wow what a fucking scam. this must be why they avoid giving you any sort of pricing information or even the most basic information on the google sites page. same deal with microsoft azure. they're just trying to rip you off. might as well pay for a real web host at that price.
Aaron Bell
The best is their speech recognition.
The rate you're charged is more than ads can cover by several times.
You would be able to make a 15 second speech query every 10 viewers.
So long for making a dog that learns their name through repetitive speech.
Jason Murphy
might be not necessarily web related, but any of you know how to start chrome such that one window opens on one monitor and one opens on another?
Caleb Roberts
It's a motion blur, and it's under Filters in GIMP.
You can just do a GitHub pages site if you want. That allows for full custom HTML, CSS, and JavaScript, and you can associate your own domain with it.
Personally, I have a static site that I host in Amazon S3, and the free tier is pretty good, with not too much more for additional traffic.
Xavier Nelson
yeah i'm probably going to do a github pages site, thanks
Joseph Long
fucking quantum mechanics bullshit javascript changes the output of all log statements when I add one additional log statement
Ryder Ramirez
wait, I guess it's just because I made edits to the source, and it's the fact that it's reparsing the file rather than pulling from a cache that makes it different.
Anyone know what the last number on the express.js http access log represents?
GET /uploads/test 200 7.346 ms - 818199
What is the 818199 representing?
Mason Myers
Response content size.
Zachary Fisher
Thanks, that's what I was thinking since it's consistent but it doesn't display for every request so that confused me. Any idea what the conditions must be for it to display?
Joseph Powell
Not empty response? It should only count body so things like redirects are not shown.
Christopher Diaz
I just followed instructions from getbootstrap to install it. how can i see if its working properly? I'm not even sure what it installed.
Jonathan Lee
when you download a framework what are you downloading exactly?
Isaiah Perry
Bootstrap are just plain css and js files to be imported on your html.
Ian Moore
a framework is just a bunch of auxiliary files that give structure and automatically add the boilerplate to your project, I guess what exactly depends on the framework. For instance, in Python you could use Django, Flask, Pyramid, Bottle, all frameworks which do more or less the same, but all with varying performance and size.
Juan Evans
anyone know a good template for hosting anime on my site? nothing like kissanime or whatever, just something small you feel.
Cooper Ward
Thanks.
I've found this and it's fricking awesome just going to share:
alright smart guy, how do I get a good remote front end job while smelling like shit due to horrific ibs
Cooper Perry
Which is the better option in developing and maintaining a portfolio - through GitHub or through a domain of your own?
Tyler Butler
>ibs
wtf is that? Also, I'm actually pretty dumb. And a good remote job, lol, just keep your fingers crossed and apply everywhere. Best of luck, buddy
Charles Reyes
whynotboth.jpg
I met people who are scared about visiting custom domains
Jordan Sanders
use github pages
Dylan Collins
just random people or someone that specifically wanted to see your portfolio?
Easton Morgan
Noob question here. I've worked on several projects but I want to create my own right now and I don't know how to make the first step. In my case, I want to build an android app that I'll make thanks to Vue.js and Spring. So how do I fuse them in one project I can work in? 'm following this tutorial: coligo.io/building-a-mobile-app-with-cordova-vuejs/ But how do I do to add Spring to that?
Sorry if it's a retarded question.
Robert Hughes
>look at job postings in your area to see what languages you should study >in a pretty decent mid sized tech city (portland) >literally no junior dev postings
pretty epic
Thomas Young
You should still apply. It won't hurt to send your resume anyway and show that you're motivated. Companies always want the more experienced candidate but they won't spit on a motivated beginner with skills.
Ayden Ward
Job postings tend to distort reality a lot, of course every company wants a jack of literally all trades with a million years of experience in every field for a $1/h preferably, that's just how business works I guess.
Don't let that picture scare you though, tech companies need people and a lot of them need them 24/7. Put your fear and uncertainty away and just like send your nice and clean portfolios, resumes, tell them that you can do this $thing1 and that $thing2, you are young, handsome and motivated.
Nicholas Thomas
vue.js is used to make client-side (html/css/js) web applications (which can run on web view on a mobile phone and be delivered as mobile apps) spring is a framework for applications targeting the java platform or the android runtime there isn't really any way to combine them that would make any sense
Levi Jackson
Well I'm currently working on a project that does use Spring and Vue.Js. I guess adding vue.js is nothing more than adding the corrects lines in the index.html file. But it's the Spring and android part that I don't know about.
Levi Ross
>Well I'm currently working on a project that does use Spring and Vue.Js. you mean an android project that runs both spring and vue on the client-side?
Cameron Morgan
Nah it's a website for the company I work in. A test viewer. Vuejs is used for the front-end while the back-end use java (spring)
Ayden Adams
so that's really 2 separate parts. I though he meant somehow combining them on the client-side in android
Eli Williams
Okay so I'm trying to learn how to use Bootstrap. I'm also new to programming in general. I want to know what I should do. I have Bootstrap up and running. If I want to make some edits on the styling, should I make a copy of the bootstrap file and move it to the directory where I have my project files or should I simply create a different style sheet and link booth the Bootstrap files and the new css file to my html file?
Hope I made sense.
Colton Jackson
to be clear, bootstrap and front end development is not programming. It's front end developing. HTML and CSS are mark up languages. Not technically programming. It's best to have your own .css file where you do custom stuff
bootstrap.js bootstrap.css mystyles.css
something like that. Don't edit the bootstrap files
Sebastian Perry
I need to create a simple yet nice looking site appealing to normies - no special features, it would be just a reference site of how to do what, no dynamic content, no user input, just smooth animations.
I should use bootstrap, right? I hate WD, never made a site in my life besides basic shit in html in school. I program in python and C. Got two books "Learning bootstrap 4" and "Bootstrap site blueprints" both by Matt Lambert. The point is I don't want to touch any other framework, no fucking js, I don't need it, I don't want to vomit.
Or am I mistaken and I would have to use some shit like node or angular anyway? Maybe I should just stick to youtube tutorials tbqh.
Nathan White
yea yea i know. i just said programming because I didn't think it mattered. guess it does.
David Smith
why not just like shit up a wordpress site fast check if your idea works (financially or otherwise) then rewrite from scratch using cool shit to feel better about yourself
Landon Gomez
you'll probably need a bit of jquery to control animations, but that's all
Gabriel Jones
specify what you mean exactly, when you talk about smooth animations.
Lots of stuff you can do with CSS alone, though if you want elements entering the page from left&right as you scroll for example, then some Bootstrap or jQuery function will really be the "easiest" way, if you don't want to write that yourself.
Bentley Flores
I want Parallax effect but with inconsistent moving speed: one scrolls down -> text is in the fixed position -> simple clipart objects move on the side -> then paragraph is over and it goes to the next text block and new clipart objects.
Nah I am really commited to what I am going to do, even though I hate the process.
reeee
Camden Rivera
I'm in the process of learning web dev by practicing. Should I avoid bootstrap or is it standard to use it?
Hunter Bailey
Don't learn with it, it is merely a shortcut.
Ryder Rodriguez
oh man, that's quite a bit, especially since you said you don't like webdev at all. Not really "simple" anymore.
For me personally that kind of design is probably more bothersome, than including some features with JS. Especially since it doesn't add any actual functionality, but just visual "fluff". But that's what people pay attention to....
you can use Bootstrap or Foundation or Bulma or any other CSS framework, but you should also know how to style things yourself and not be depended on them. See them more like a shortcut, that give you a quick consistent style. Only exception for me are (flex)grids. Not interested in reinventing the wheel, so I always either use Bulmas or Foundations grid, even if I don't need anything else from them.
Chase Sanders
yea just trying to get through the html and css phase quickly to focus on learning the mern stack.
Logan Morales
As someone who is into algorithms and mainly uses C++, is it worth getting right into web development? I mainly just like making neat looking webpages but is it worth diving deeper past things like bootstrap/generic javascript animations?
Cameron Peterson
Well, which books may you suggest then to learn how to achieve such an animation? Does not have to be "appearing outta fog", maybe just from one side, and then sliding behind top side when scrolling bottom and vice versa. I guess, that would be the only animation on the site.
