In the face of recent changes in Firefox, some anons were asking for a Sup Forums's perfect web browser, we have collected here the most wanted features:
Granular control over incomming traffic like Policeman (more control than uMatrix in this particular subject). Granular control over outgoing traffic like Tamper Data or like Privacy Settings (the addon). Easy switch to preset profiles for both like uBlock Origin for incomming traffic and Privacy Settings for outgoing traffic. Random presets generator for things like "user-agent" and "canvas fingerprint". Custom stylesheets like Stylish. Userscript support like Greasemonkey. Cookie management like Cookie Monster. HTTPS with HTTP fallback and ports management like Smart HTTPS and HTTPS by default. Proxy management like FoxyProxy. "Open with" feature to use an external application, like for using a video player with youtube-dl and MPV, or for text input with a text editor, and for other protocols like ftp and gopher, and even as a file picker. Local cache like Decentraleyes and Load from Cache. All this in a per site basis. URL Deobfuscation like "Google search link fix" and "Pure URL". URI leak prevention like "No Resource URI Leak" and plugin enumeration prevention by returning "undefined". Keyboard driven with dwb features like vi-like shortcuts, keyboard hints, quickmarks, custom commands and non-bloated smooth UI. Configuration options from an integrated command-line or in configuration files like Lynx. A way to import bookmarks from other browsers like Firefox. Search customization like surfraw, dwb funtions or InstantFox Quick Search, and reverse image search like Google Reverse Image Search. Writen in C. Low on dependencies. Framebuffer support like NetSurf for working in the virtual terminal (TTY). Actual javascript support so we can lurk and post in Sup Forums.
Any devs up to the task? Also general discussion of browser alternatives.
Porting the add-ons should be a easy task compared to writing a new browser from scratch.
Dominic Gray
Not necessarily, plus there are engines out there we can use
Owen Hill
I suggest you read a little more about Mozilla's new changes, devs are already complaining is too restrictive
Henry Morris
>mozilla requires addons to now be audited >too difficult for devs
sounds like bs for lazy people who cant provide security for their users
Jaxson Edwards
That is not what I said
Gavin Phillips
thats the issue though
before this all the addons werent audited by mozilla
then they started to add the audited mozilla addons
>addon isnt secure or optimized >noob user blames firefox for a devs shortcomings or in some cases malicous nature
this kind of shit wouldnt be allowed in the apple store for example
Austin Ross
I'm using Yandex, seems to be fine.
Anyone else use(d) it?
Brandon Smith
>yandex terms of service and privacy policy
hmmm
William Sullivan
Please show me I just see people talking shit with no substance, where is the problem? Show me a single extension that won't be able to be ported to WebExtension and why.
Ian Hill
It doesn't mean shit you are just using chromium anyways.
Brody Hughes
Do you XUL support is irrelevant?
Christopher White
Why not use Waterfox and go from there
Parker Price
>suggests a addon that is now capable within the native browser by default
all addons do is modify about:config so just git gud
the new addon api will alow streamlined performance and better security and will reduce legacy attack surface
>99% of attacks now useless instead of allowing some random decade old big appearing that was glanced over
Nathaniel Green
its like continuing to use fat32 when we have ext4/xfs/zfs/ufs
you are limited by what you can do and what you can do isnt optimized for modern performance
you also are forcing nefarious people to learn everything from step 1 instead of using attacks that could work on other browsers sharing the same engine
also what XUL addon is so important to you that isnt being ported or is now built into the browser by default?
Andrew Torres
XUL indeed gave power to plugins things like filtering request and content is important the question is that if its going to end just because of WebExtensions. I don't see that happening plugins like RequestPolicy already stated on github it can be done the same way.
chrome/chromium no longer supports flash but a lot of ppl still use it. vaughnlive.tv/profe3195
Nathaniel Hall
So, is this happening? The requirements are pretty much perfect.
This needs to happen now, because 52 ESR is almost over.
This doesn't need a logo. It doesn't even need a name yet. What it needs is code. How can we get the smart people on board? I'm sure they'll be needing a browser soon, like everybody else.
Mason Robinson
Some folks at /dpt/ showed some interest in the last two threads I've been there.
As for the code, it needs a lead developer but if someone were to host a github with OP's list (despite any personal opinion against the site) you can bet it will attract devs.
Also keeping this thread and the list alive as copypasta would help imho.
Robert Martin
If surf can be at roughly 2,000 lines of code just for the browser and webkit2gtk for the GUI I see no reason why Sup Forums can't.
Daniel Ross
What about an IRC?
Dylan Sullivan
What javascript engine would it use, the spidermonkey or V8 engine?
Andrew Mitchell
F Chinkopera is pretty good as far as non-retarded chromium clones go. It's not that privacy isn't important, but the data they can gleam after all the ad and cookie blocking done on user end(especially without an irl handle like Facebook/Google account) is damn near worthless.
Hudson Nelson
>52 ESR is almost over Prepare ur anuses.
Evan Harris
Carakan
Isaiah Murphy
And why Charakan?
Josiah Baker
Because we can
Noah Robinson
Somebody make a github and copy paste the OP
Brody Davis
>lets make a whole new browser with no addons because firefox is starting over with no addons
you sound like a butthurt chrome user
Daniel Thomas
I don't see why we shouldn't add addon capabilities. Would it be a scripting language?
Brayden Parker
who is we?
its just a bunch of samefagging people pretending they are devs
nothing has ever come out of Sup Forums let alone Sup Forums
Levi Miller
I don't see why not.
You seem to have a problem friendo, please don't talk.
Noah Ortiz
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Sebastian Campbell
why dont you work on links2 or lynx?
it can be run from command line and therefore is already a smaller attack surface
lynx even has a graphical mode and basic java
Jeremiah Cook
The ideal browser is basically qutebrowser
Parker Parker
nice samefagging
have fun bumping the thread on your own
William Davis
And why make a fork other than just for the sake of making a fork?
Jason Young
>nothing has ever come out of Sup Forums literally wrong, even if you only count the past couple of years
>let alone Sup Forums probably right
Daniel Reyes
My guess this is going to to derive in a vimscript. But if you expose enough of the API you can make other things happen. Is not like this project wouldn't do it anyway, read the OP.
Noah Russell
>nothing has ever come out of Sup Forums even [s4s] has a compilation band.
Michael Jenkins
Someone from google is being paid to try to discourage any development hoping they will start to use chrome.
Then there is surf, but I don't know how possible is having the same features.
Cameron Smith
>nothing has ever come out of Sup Forums
I fucking wish nothing ever came out of Sup Forums. It would still be my secret club.
Jackson Sullivan
Netsurf is already multiplatform
Jacob Torres
I'm currently rangebanned from starting a new thread but /banned says I'm not banned. Test post.
Jackson Gonzalez
Don't you mean range blocked since that just stops any ip in a range from being able to post.
Matthew Butler
Yeah rangeblocked.
>Posting from your ISP, IP range, or country has been blocked due to abuse. Only when starting a new thread, regardless of board. No idea what's going on.
Alexander Nguyen
It means you have shitposters in the area
Julian Harris
I believe that.
Tyler Miller
Yup, that makes sense
Henry Howard
The admins are incredibly inconsistent with the range blocks. Let's say my phone ip is blocked just go into airplane mode for 30 seconds and most likely i'll get an ip not blocked.
