post your component list; rate other anons'; ask questions in general.
>Assemble your parts list with price comparisons & compatibility filter. pcpartpicker.com/
THEN state the PURPOSE of your PC & BUDGET. State COUNTRY if not USA. List GAMES/SOFTWARE you use often. List resolution & hz if gaming. Seeking build improvements? Clarify goal: lower price or improved specs? ctrl+f to see if your question was answered already
CPUs: >G4560 - budget builds (R5 1500x - generally all you need for 60fps with power to spare. No i5 >R5 1600 - best value for higher fps gaming & mixed usage; 1600x if you too lazy to OC >R7/Xeon/Threadripper/ - compute/Multitask/mixed use
Graphics: >G4560 iGPU is fine for desktop stuff and very light game >1050Ti for low budget. Drop settings if not Freesync/Gsync on newer games; RX560 if discounted RX570 4GB - 1080p@60+hz, running most maxed; older games at 144+hz >RX580 8GB - 1440p@60+hz, inject SMAA & drop settings >1060 - Generally outperformed by the RX 580 and GSync costs more; consider if AMD is not an option (ie CUDA/miners buying all RX400/500s) >1070 - if on sale/can't afford 1080 >1080 - 1080p@100-144+hz maxed; 1440p at lower hz. >1080Ti - 1440p@90-144+hz; 4k@60hz in SOME games, more at lower settings
General: >READ PRODUCT REVIEWS to see if that cheap SSD/PSU or whatever is reliable >Consider larger SSD-only for what you budget SSD+HDD combined. Add HDD later once needed >NVMe aren't for faster OS boot. They're primarily for productivity/scratch disk/VMs >Stop confusing any M.2 drive with NVMe. M.2 is a form factor >mATX board + case is often cheaper >1 SR DIMM is slower than 2 DIMMs
First for 7700K is better than the 1700X at gaming
Jackson Ward
t.
Luis Cook
CPUs: >G4560 - budget builds (R5 1500x - generally all you need for 60fps with power to spare. No i5 >R5 1600/i5 7600 - good value for higher fps gaming & mixed usage; 1600x if you too lazy to OC, 7600K if you want to OC >7700K - best performance/$ for higher fps gaming & mixed usage; 7700K if you want to OC >R7/Xeon/Threadripper/ - compute/Multitask/mixed use
Jose Ramirez
Anyone know the release date for these RX580 cards everyone keeps recommending?
Logan Cruz
>No i5 So you're just going to ignore a more mature CPU with less growing pains than the entire Ryzen line up just because it has hyperthreading? That's fucking retarded. Even with hyperthreading, the 1500X is shit compared to the 7600K. Why would you want the 580? They cost the same as 1080 Tis for 1060 performance.
Camden Baker
>no i5 >lists i5 Dumb intelposter.
David Walker
go away aspie, back to the shitpost thread
Henry Foster
>WAHHHHHHHHH PLEASE BUY INTEL seems like the jidf is on full damage control ahead of the threadripper launch
Lincoln Gomez
>threadripper >CCX latencies Enjoy your shitty faux 16-core, AMDrone
Adam Nguyen
>amdrone img_xxxx you need to leave
Christian White
Ah time to head back to the other thread. I see the AMD shill resides in this one.
Grayson Watson
MUH BINGBUS
Liam Garcia
t. intel shill
Christian Clark
I know this is a question for /tpg/ but that thread is dead. So I have a t420 coming and am wondering if getting a msata SSD is worth it. I was planning on getting a cheap 32gb one just to boot from, replacing the regular drive with a SSD and placing the old drive in a caddy. Also does anyone know if replacing the i5 with an i7 is worth the 40 bucks? Or will it be so marginal that I'm better off just keeping the i5?
Yes, that is the plan but I'm asking how well a msata preforms in it and if it's worth the 15ish bucks to get a small msata too boot from to clear up some SSD room.
Josiah Lopez
if its $15 it is worth the upgrade for the reduced boot time
Hudson Robinson
You won't do much with a 32gb drive. Or linux is that small?
I just built a Ryzen 1600 and 1060 6gb build. Playing some Borderlands and I'm barely averaging 60 fps, what gives?
Nicholas Kelly
Yeah, I could install a lot of distros like 10 times on that size.
Austin Nguyen
>Ryzen 1600 There's your problem Should have gotten an Intel Core i5-7500
Luke Richardson
>barely turn v-sync off
Luke Ward
fuck off and stop shilling you autismo
Tyler Davis
I don't want screen tearing
Samuel Jenkins
Not even an option in the settings, its a 2009 game.
Nathaniel Rivera
then get freesync or goyimsync
Carter Martin
v-sync is an option, retard
Logan Collins
Don't play the zombie dlc then.
Charles Reyes
What cpu should I buy for games and light Photoshop use ? My budget is 300-350$
Lincoln Ortiz
Just for the CPU or whole build?
Sebastian Myers
A lot of people that look for recommendations on specific components, I put together a list of full builds using an NZXT CPU Cooler and Case. I tried to scale each component uniformly with the rest of the build.
Does anyone have advice on what I should upgrade for better /vg/ performance?
Graphics card only, or should I get a new CPU to avoid bottle-necking? This would probably make it necessary to get a new motherboard as well, as I'm running an FX-6300 (AM3+ socket).
>tfw poorfag
Benjamin Lee
GeForce GTX 1050 Ti is my recommendation for that processor.
If you want to get a slightly more powerful graphics card, get the GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
Leo Parker
GPU should be fine for that resolution. CPU can do with an upgrade. So can the monitor. You can afford anew SSD as sell.
Jaxon Morris
dont get a new gpu
you need a new cpu first
Nathaniel Anderson
I mean, it's true. But most adults don't have time to buy an intel processor :^)
need a gpu suggestion for my budget gaming build (at 1080p 60fps). My local computer store is having a sale on Galax GTX cards. Now I'm looking at: #1 1050Ti 4GB #2 1060 3GB for 1.5x the price of #1 #3 1060 6GB for 1.75x the price of #1 which one would you choose and why? >zero RX400/RX500 stock everywhere
Cameron King
If this is a budget build, I would recommend the GTX 1050 Ti.
Brody Cooper
thanks! I guess what I'm worrying about is, will the performance of the 1060 justify the price difference? ($70-80 jump for 1060 3GB and ~$120 for 1060 6GB) if yes perhaps I need to suck it up and get the 1060 instead?
Colton Parker
The GTX 1060 pushes numbers a little faster than the GTX 1050 Ti, however; I believe the GTX 1050 Ti is more fit for a budget build.
Bentley Hill
Correct me if I'm wrong but the 3gb should do very good 1080p gaming on high settings as the 6gb version should do max settings or even a bit 1440p gaming. On recent games of course. The 1050 is for mobas.
Henry Reyes
He doesn't know anything about this, he just wants a recommendation. GTX 1050 Ti will push Doom past 60 fps, one of the most well-optimized games.
Angel Stewart
regarding the games I wanted to play, I haven't decided yet, but it'd be nice if the build can run most of the popular games on Steam right now (ark, cod bo3, poe, xcom2, ori, tyranny) at high settings, 1080p 60fps. thanks for the response!
Liam Perry
user...
Jaxon Ross
Even Xcom2 drops frame on 1080ti to 20 FPS in some situations. Xcom2 is a really badly optimized game.
Adam Rodriguez
Would a Ryzen 1600 bottleneck a 1080 ti?
Jaxon Phillips
What resolution? Ever CPU gets bottlenecked by 1080ti at 1080p. Only 7700k gets above 144 and that is not even consistent (for the newest games). On higher resolutions? The 1080ti gets bottleneck first. Either way you will have CPU or GPU bottleneck.
Benjamin Morales
Okay, thanks. I plan to use it at 1080p and 4K. Anything you would suggest?
Caleb Scott
Go google benchmarks and look them up yourself. Don't trust anyone on Sup Forums because there is an AMD shill around posting doctored benchmarks. I suggest 7700k if you are going 4k.
Colton Perez
Okay, I'll do that. Thanks again.
Chase White
>I suggest 7700k if you are going 4k. Not him but why? A higher resolution makes the processor choice not that important.
There will come a day when 1080ti will get bottlenecked as well. Unless gaming development changes as rapidly as the 1080ti declines, the 7700k is still superior to the 1700x.
Carter Perry
Good goy
Justin Scott
>muh shill boogeyman
Blake Wood
Sure thing corelet
Jose Rivera
The 1050ti is barely better then the 1050 - either get the 1050 or get a 1060.
There is no reason for the tis exsistence since its usually 40-50 more then the regular card.
I got my 1050(regular) for 60$ after rebate.
Julian Carter
Cool game there friendo
Like clockwork
Isaac Long
So why shouldn't I do a build as follows:
- Ryzen 1600 - B350 motherboard - 8GB DDR4 @ 3000mhz - gtx 1050(weak but I will upgrade later, maybe BF as I recently bought it) - SSD + HDD storage
Is there any downside?
I thought about a cheapy G4650 build but the LGA 1151 is dead and if I ever wanted to upgrade I would be stuck with what ever used i5s/i9s existed instead of the newer processors.
You didn't specify a price range, so I went with a build I had put together for the Ryzen 5 1600.
This build has 16GB 3200mhz, a GTX 1060 6GB card that you will not have to replace for several years.
A single SDD that would incorporate the total money you would spend on both and HDD + smaller SSD
Bentley Perry
Ryzen 1700, no bottleneck.
Juan Clark
>MSI B350 Mate on every build, even on $2000 Really nigga? The B350s Asus Prime Plus and ASRock Pro4 are better value, honestly at this point just get a X370, 99% of those are guaranteed to be of good quality and have more features than B350s boards.
Kevin Cruz
Any suggestions on what to upgrade?
Brayden Howard
SSD
Levi Bailey
WHERE THE FUCK ARE ALL THE 570'S
FUCKING CRYPTOCUNTS AHHHHHH
Jeremiah Scott
At this point get a new PC, the only thing you can improve there is maybe the graphics card (even a 1060 6GB won't be bottlenecked as long as you OC your CPU a bit) and add an SSD for faster booting and loading times (I recommend at least 240GB since they last more and have better speeds, Samsung 850 EVO and PNY are good).
William Peterson
>games this is Sup Forums not Sup Forums
Benjamin Lewis
>M E G A Tasking better get an atx S U P E R Tower for that
Ryan Nguyen
Please someone recommend me a monitor they use that's relatively new, 1080p, 21-25 inch range and under 160 USD.
Justin Davis
Would you rather have 120hz monitor or an IPS?
Kevin Gonzalez
Well here is a 23" 1080p75 IPS for $150.
Isaiah Cook
>Well here is a.. ??
I've seen some IPS monitors and someone in one of these threads say that the modern ones in that price range have backlight problems (it bleeds through). I'd rather have a TN panel if that is REALLY the case.
Mostly used for gaming (Dota 2 and Overwatch, emulation). Lots of new games on the horizon have me excited as well, want to upgrade to play those too (some of which are Metro Exodus, Sea of Thieves, Monster Hunter, want to play Nier: A soon).
Not sure about a budget yet since I am between jobs (interning). Thanks!
Okay, here we go again. Budget PC since i'm poor as fuck but i need it before July. Purpose: gaming (also, some editing) Country: Yurop (Spain)
1080 60hz 5ms 21.5" Samsung monitor, I did not buy it, it was a gift 'cause it had a scratch (almost unnoticeable)
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor €205 Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard €112.50 Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory €80 Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ( Reuse, I'll buy an SSD as soon as i see a discounted one) Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GT OCV1 Video Card 283 € Case: Zalman - Z3 ATX Mid Tower Case 40€ Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply 66€
tips? do i need to change smth? stock cooler?
Logan Cruz
Thank you for your help. This is what you use?
Jacob Hall
forgot to mention,
>USA
Benjamin Lopez
Why wouldn't you get the Ryzen 1600? You're not paying much more and you get two extra cores.
Dominic Price
also been wanting to buy a cheap IPS. Currently I'm looking at LG 25" LED 25UM58-P
Brandon Russell
>zalman case Get something nicer for yourself. If you wanna cheap out on the case then go Aerocool the ones with the shrowd for PSU or Deepcool, either the Tesseract/Dukase
Nicholas Green
>25UM58-P
dats ultra-wide man
I don't think it's worth it. Most UIs (for gayming) support 16:9 and not 21:9. Spoken from a guy whos been using a 4:3 monitor for 10 years lol.
Elijah Hall
I'd suggest picking up a GeForce GTX 1060 6GB video card. The rest of your machine will last several more years.
Corsair Carbide 200R 70€ ? deepcool cases are hard to find in my country
ty for the replies
Jason Hughes
ahh okay. good thing I posted here.
Noah Bailey
EHhh come to think of it I had the wrong idea. Gayms support widescreen over standard and 21:9 is a widescreen res. I was thinking of specific games and mods out there who for some reason might not support 21:9. Probably far and few in between.
Still you probably have to have a higher end card for gayming on those resolutions.
Adrian Evans
Various builds for various price ranges. Does not include OS, CD Drive, Mouse/Keyboard or Monitor. Optimized for cpu overclocking (if applicable)