Freetards think open source software made by autistic neckbeards is better that software made by a multimillion dollar...

>freetards think open source software made by autistic neckbeards is better that software made by a multimillion dollar corporation

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gartner.com/newsroom/id/3516317
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Besides it is all the time ultimate truth.

But communism is good, user.

Good goy, work for free

In a communist society theres no incentive to work while on the job at all.

>implying multimilliondollarcorporations are efficient
>implying its not bloatware

>Communism
>Wage slavery
>Any slavery

You clearly don't understand communism.

This x 100

Have you seen my helicopter? I can't seem to find it.

I know enough about communism to know that it dosent work, just like free/open source software

Multimillion dollar corporations also think so, which is why FOSS is used extensively in the industry.

then why does open source software work


checkmate

Freedom > Funtionality

Companies don't give a shit about quality, just whether something will sell. "minimum viable product" and all.

Autists work on something until its perfectly correct, because their autism compels them to.

>conflating communism with software that is licensed and free to modify, distribute (and sell!) under a free market system
wintoddlers are dumber than macfags. You literally can't refute this fact.

get owned, brainwashed piggy

>we have good goals, like saving lives
>therefore it's okay for us to oppress you and take your shit by force in service of those goals
every leftist ever

Windows is quite shit user

>sum all deaths worldwide by preventable means
>attribute 100% of them to Capitalism
>ignore the fact that most of the countries where such deaths take place are socialist shitholes and undeveloped shitholes
>ignore the fact that capitalist countries, and only capitalist countries produce the excess quanitities of necessities possible to alleviate these issues, and that only capitalist countries have

Friendly reminder that capitalism will die because robots will take all the jobs and socialism will thrive, everyone will be on universal basic income.

I don't understand how communism is supposed to fix the water situation. Are the saying we need to ship water to where there is none? Because that is a impossible challenge.

>I know enough about communism to know that it dosent work, just like free/open source software
zdnet.com/article/red-hat-becomes-first-2b-open-source-company/
investors.redhat.com/news-and-events/press-releases/2016/03-22-2016-201734069

thats against how it is enforced, not the ideal.
it is also an obvious overgeneralization fallacy.
if Sup Forums's the new Sup Forums imma do it right.

Not to mention that Linux has dominated every market except desktops.
gartner.com/newsroom/id/3516317
w3techs.com/technologies/overview/operating_system/all
w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-unix/all/all
searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/Red-Hat-bolsters-Linux-for-mainframes-tries-to-catch-Novell
top500.org/statistics/overtime/
gs.statcounter.com/#mobile tablet-os-ww-monthly-201611-201611-bar

>Live in capitalistic countries like america and die because you couldn't afford healthcare
>Live in civilized european nation where healthcare is seen as a right and thrive from superior way of life

>Live in capitalistic countries like america and die because you couldn't afford healthcare
shitty bait

>I-it's bait now pay up double premiums, I need to buy a new yatch.

100% of all deaths were attributed to capitalism because in a properly done communist society they would be prevented, capitalism only does so if it is profitable (and the free market doesn't solve such problems).
the other two 'facts' aren't general knowledge and thus the burden is on you to prove (extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence).
this is of course all assuming that preventable death and suffering is a bad thing when compared to how bad revolutionists tend to be at setting up sustainable and liberating systems, which im not sure on either.

windows sucks

>Corporations don't write open source software.

are you implying health care thrives under a free market, and that america doesn't have awful standards of health insurance quality compared to the rest of the world?
have you ever left alabama mate?
maybe you should spend a couple capitalist shekels on a plain ticket to a developed country to see what life can be like.

linux is also made by multimillion dollar corporations

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>implying health care in america is any semblance of a free market

Just sage and move on. These threads are made by Trump supporting redditors as bait for tankies. You won't find any meaningful discussion here.

everyone having clean water is perfectly reasonable if instead of a free market fixing your problems you have an organized effort (like a government) to help give basic sanitization for people with poor water quality and move people from where there is no water

I'm glad they included the 2 years rent because that's how long you'll be waiting for the surgery.

>Not pretending to be a communist to trigger alt-right cucks

youtu.be/s8VOM8ET1WU
'free market' and 'small government' is exactly what the republican party has been running on since they got bought after lincoln's death.
socialist societies that were part of the 1st world to begin with have thriving health care systems.

You're literally a retard.
That's why Windows is so shit?

In many cases it is, especially when you factor in the lower price. Last time I used Microsoft Office, the ability to export as PDF was only available as a paid add-on.

are you implying the cost of good health care is long waiting times?
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this scientific report doesn't seem to back your claim, bud.

The only difference between them is the amount of "connections" the guy has.

It's even funner to use capitalism to trigger the autistic-right.

i.e. automation, FTAs, etc.

>double premiums
>if I put a bunch of random financial transaction related words together I can make capitalism sound like an evil greedy system
Fuck off pinko

>100% of all deaths were attributed to capitalism because in a properly done communist society they would be prevented
That makes no sense. Might as well blame Apple for your windows computer crashing because they failed to set up a Unix like OS on your computer.

>the other two 'facts' aren't general knowledge and thus the burden is on you to prove (extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence).
the picture cited no sources and failed to prove that any of the listed deaths can be directly attributed to capitalism. I see no reason to try and demonstrate to the contrary, when there is no proof to defend the original point.

>are you implying health care thrives under a free market, and that america doesn't have awful standards of health insurance quality compared to the rest of the world?
Both of those things are true, though. every pharmaceutical, every life support machine, every computer system and medical tool has been developed by a market system.

>have you ever left alabama mate?
no, but only because I've never been to Alabama, so I could never leave.

>maybe you should spend a couple capitalist shekels on a plain ticket to a developed country to see what life can be like.
I live in Canada, and while the health care is fine, the system is slow as fuck, and the wait times are abysmal. I spent 10 hours to get a couple of stitches in my knee last time I needed it. I could have done that shit myself in an hour

it's even funnier to use the Sup Forums sticky to dismantle Sup Forums-style arguments.

>Arguing with facts
Autism

>picture has no source
zoom in nigger, 3 respectable sources

>makes no sense + weird apple comparison
all deaths are attributed to capitalism/lack of well made communist society to be specific, because perfect communism would solve these problems, not a single essential property of capitalism solves these problems, whereas that is the whole point of communism.
seriously, how did that computer metaphor make any sense? it's not blaming capitalism, its saying this is the price of not having perfect communism.

>American insurance sucks blah blah
I'm below poverty level and have dual coverage with $0 premium and no co-pay, $20/mo premium with 80% coverage and $2k deductible.

>properly done communist society
kek

3 fucking sources.
retard.

yeah, im pretty sure it's impossible too, but I still wont let retarded arguments slide when they attack a hypothetical scenario, some of us are capable of using logic to communicate.

>I get huge government insurance aid because of my extremely low income and I don't see what the problem with insurance is?
You don't say

>cites websites and not pages
>a search of each site returns 0 results for capitalism
I'll repeat: The picture cites no sources to back it's claims.

>all deaths are attributed to capitalism/lack of well made communist society to be specific, because perfect communism would solve these problems, not a single essential property of capitalism solves these problems, whereas that is the whole point of communism.
By that logic all problems anywhere can be attributed to any current economic system because no current economic system is the ivory tower utopia I can imagine in my head.

When you make an argument that X is responsible for Y, you need to actually have proof that X is responsible, and not that X is not Z and Y would never happen under Z (especially when Z is ivory tower nonsense)

can you fuckers stop soapboxing all the time

nobody cares that you want to gas the jews or kill all the whites

always pushing your faggot politics into every little corner of your life and down everybodies throats

Can you point the problem out?

I've never met these struggling poor people that can't afford insurance.

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no one here is saying cuba has it better than america.

and yes, the whole point is to argue that capitalism can't solve these problems without being in a socialist society, the communism being argued about is an 'ivory tower', any debate surrounding communism has to be based off of hypotheticals because every time communism has been tried it has been taken advantage of (russia: leaders directly work against goals of communism, cuba: fucking corrupt and cuts itself of of the world when it fucks up, china: same as russia).

those sources don't say capitalism caused those deaths, those sources are where the information on death tolls is supposed to come from, preventable deaths take place where perfect socialist/communist society hasn't; capitalism's goal has nothing to do with saving lives, and when this happens it is an accidental property where as in communism/socialism it is an essential property.

People that aren't poor leeches on society don't get the same help you do, and have to spend exorbitant amounts of their hard earned money paying for insurance that doesn't do jack shit and isn't necessary, but is required by law to have.

Nobody cares about your poor useless ass. It hurts actually contributing members of society.

It isn't required by law, you are just penalized during tax time if you don't have insurance.

Also providing subsidized insurance to people that can't afford insurance is cheaper for the tax payers. Keeping people healthy = cheaper.

and the only reason he's getting any help is because of the social programs pushed by the 'socialists' aka commies, so it isn't an argument against socialism/perfect communism.

Letting people who don't work and don't contribute to society die from their own poor choices is even cheaper.

>implying it's not

In communism there's just us goys.

It actually isn't.

They get sicker and sicker and end up in a cycle where they keep going to the ER and the gov foots the bill.

Nationalized healthcare is way cheaper, the health insurance companies don't want it because as it is now they can milk people as much as they want.

You're probably talking to some ancap nutjob, in his ideal world the ER would just shove the poor in a big meat grinder to turn them into fertilizer.

>no one here is saying cuba has it better than america.
No communist country has ever been better than any capitalist country, and never will be. It's a failed system with numerous design flaws that make it prone to economic stagnation, collapse, rampant corruption, human rights abuses, genocide, etc etc.

>Multimillion companies
>Reinventing the whell every time
>Implying they are not worried more about gender and race quotas than about product quality

Here is some generalizations of software made by either "group"

Corporations intent to make money.
There is several ways this is reflected in the software.
They add DRM to restrict using the program.
They add advertisement to legitimize malware.
They add unnecessary cloud features to datamine their users.
They combine everything into a single project which them .

Free software is built by the community.
Good features gets added, bad features gets removed.
As long as the project is small and have a narrow focus, the software gets better and better.
If someone ads malicious features, others can remove them and make a more popular one without this feature.
If someone stops working on a project, others can continue it later.

If there is two projects which basically solve the same thing, I would always choose the free software option.
Some tasks require "one huge application which does everything" and free software cannot always compete with this.
Other things are easily split into smaller tasks and free software is better for these things.
My goal with using free software is to minimize the things I need proprietary software for and maximize the things I can use free software for.
I don't mind spending a ton of money on a single software project if all my work is done inside this application.
But using a subpar OS I have to spend money on in order to run this application is not a good deal for me.

Its not possible any other way dumb nigger. You cannot rely on voluntary cooperation. Also anything other than freedom is shit.

In a capitalist society theres no incentive to work while on the job at all

>using the jew meme to shit on communism
You know, there are more than enough resources on this planet for everyone to live in luxury, right? Nobody actually needs to work for a living to perpetuate society.

>socialist countries are all shitholes with slums and poverty
>just look at venezuela
But don't look at the Capitalist countries like Brazil, Columbia, Chile, Mexico, Argentina and others that also have sprawling slums filled with disease!

It's almost as if these countries have been disadvantaged by capital flight. It's almost as if the capitalist system holds entire countries hostage under the threat of the "good guy capitalists" threatening to leave the country with their assets. If that isn't economic terrorism, then I don't know what is.

captcha: FOR SALE ciel

So your telling me internet explorer is better than FireFox?

Open Source software is fundamentally better than software written by multi million dollar companies. Do you honestly think companies like Hewlett Packard, IBM, Oracle, Microsoft and Dell would support open sourced projects if that previous statement were not true? Kill yourself. Sage this thread

>Private Healthcare isn't free market
I guess it is only an element of a free market economy if you like it.

Try open source software made by a multibillion dollar corporation

>In the long run, making programs free is a step toward the postscarcity world, where nobody will have to work very hard just to make a living. People will be free to devote themselves to activities that are fun, such as programming, after spending the necessary ten hours a week on required tasks such as legislation, family counseling, robot repair and asteroid prospecting. There will be no need to be able to make a living from programming.

>We have already greatly reduced the amount of work that the whole society must do for its actual productivity, but only a little of this has translated itself into leisure for workers because much nonproductive activity is required to accompany productive activity. The main causes of this are bureaucracy and isometric struggles against competition. Free software will greatly reduce these drains in the area of software production. We must do this, in order for technical gains in productivity to translate into less work for us.

enjoy your corporate bloatware.

>government steps in and literally requires citizens to purchase something
>lol it's a totally free market

>Autists work on something until its perfectly correct, because their autism compels them to.

That must be why GIMP is a powerhouse of the CAD market, dwarfing Photoshop.

>Your (((friends))) at Microsoft
Nice try, kike

Humans are inherently greedy and power-hungry so it will never work with us at the top. We need some advanced, incorruptible AI to govern a communist society fairly, and we're a long way away from that. Until then, put communism on the shelf and away from society.