If you want help: >State the budget for your build (and country if not the USA). >List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate. >Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs?
CPUs: >G4560 - Budget builds (R5 1400 - if you can't afford better or specifically need 8 threads but not a very powerful CPU >R5 1500x - All you really need for 60fps with power to spare; Don’t get an i5. >R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage; Get a 1600x if you don't OC >R7/Xeon/Threadripper - Compute/Multitask/mixed use; Not required for just gaming.
GPUs: >Integrated CPU Graphics - Desktop stuff and very light games >RX 560 and GTX 1050Ti - Lower end budget cards, drop settings on newer games >RX570 - 1080p@60hz at high, running most maxed older games at 144+hz. >RX580 and GTX1060 6GB - 1080p@60hz maxed, 1440p@60hz at lower settings; Go for the RX580 if you can. >GTX 1070 - 1080p@144hz /1440p@60hz at high >GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz / 1440p@60hz maxed, 4k@60hz in a few games; Probably the highest end card you need for 1080p/1440p. >GTX 1080 Ti - 1440p@144 hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games; You're kind of going overboard with this one. >AMD GPUs are suffering a lack of stock and Nvidia a rise in price thanks to e-currency miners
General: >ALWAYS LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS! >Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later >NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor. >The Ryzen lineup comes with exceptionally good stock coolers. (with the exception of the 1600X) consider using them over any sub 35USD cooler.
Take a look at other mobos in the same price range, you might save some money with a slightly better mobo that accepts RAM in your pricerange.
Nolan Miller
>GSYNC You're already getting ripped-off, might as well take the most high end while you're at high.
Tyler Smith
580s available when?
1060s available when?
Joseph Bennett
As late as August if miners don't calm down.
Charles Cook
Kikesync?
I personally own an xb270hu and I think it is great. But get the Asus if you want 1ms response time vs 4ms.
Easton Cooper
why ryzen over an i5?
Cameron Morgan
Hey guys. Few threads back I was suggested to find some b-die ram. I...THINK I found some, but I'm not sure. Just what some people on some forums said was b-die.
Is there a list of ram out there that I'm just not seeing that says if they're b-does or not? Would be much appreciated.
Luis Nelson
could you fellas explain the (((GSYNC))) meme to me? is it because its proprietary bullshit?
Camden Wright
It's just such a huge hassle. Open the listing for RAM(because obviously you can't see the proper identifier from the list), copy the identifier, ctrl+f it into the QVL list to see if it's there, repeat a couple dozen times, move onto the next motherboard... And it isn't like you can pick RAM from the QVL list and go looking for THAT, because pcpartpicker doesn't find anything, and google only finds OTHER QVL lists...
Chase Howard
Simply just perf/$
Mason Gonzalez
Cheaper. Better. Faster. Stronger. Like Jamal.
Benjamin Jenkins
because we are paid to shill amd here
Wyatt Thomas
It's not just because it's proprietary bullshit, it's because it's EXPENSIVE proprietary bullshit. As in, it costs around $150 extra compared to otherwise identical freesync monitor.
Robert Mitchell
>And it isn't like you can pick RAM from the QVL list and go looking for THAT, because pcpartpicker doesn't find anything, and google only finds OTHER QVL lists... That's what I do, and it works fine. The RAM names actually mean something, you can look in the QVL list for the frequency and capacity you want, then google "buy " and you'll find a price.
Yes. AMD version is Freesync. Gsync is called Kikesync cause it is literally Freesync except cost more with the Jew Tax
Juan Brooks
>NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs So getting a 960 evo wouldn't speed up games or other programs?
Oliver Bailey
It would speed it up a little bit but it's not worth it for twice the cost of a normal ssd
Henry Cruz
In that case, what's the cheapest 500gb ssd that's still reliable? I have an 850 evo but it's already getting full so I'd like to add another ssd.
Alexander Peterson
Do I put water in with this? Or just the coolent
Nathaniel Gomez
Let's say I want to reinstall win10; what's the best way to do so that results in the least amount of bloatware possible? Right now I'm using a pile of different programs and command line doohickey to remove croutona/xbox live/all of the other junk.
I really only use it for solidworks and video gaems... I just wish OS's were more like, operating systems you know? and nothing else. Hm, maybe it is time to give linux a whirl
James Gomez
I've been using the Sandisk ultra II 1TB version for a while now, and it's definitely a lot faster than a hard drive, and pretty cheap. I think it's almost as fast as other SSD's but I'm not sure about that.
So should i buy a 1060 now before all the miners drive up the price even more?
Charles Jackson
No. That won't happen.
The vast majority of us miners are not the ones buying up all the GPUs, it's the newfags getting into mining.
Even now, the prices of the 1060 are far too high to justify purchasing one for mining. With market conditions fluctuating, return on investments just takes longer and makes it even more of a gamble.
Luis Roberts
>Such a good time in my country to buy every PC part, cheap as fuck mobos and cpus with Ryzen >Cryptocunts fuck up the GPU segment
fuck
Easton Diaz
More like 1060 is driven up by the shortage of AMD cards. So everyone looking to make a new build now is forced to buy 1060.
Daniel Nguyen
GAS THE MINERS GPU WARS NOW
Tyler Torres
Blame the jews that are selling the GPUs at inflated prices.
Xavier Butler
It just werks
Angel Gomez
>trying to find memory on MB's qvl >literally nothing matches the model strings they've got listed >most of the results are their own qvl pages Someone should be shot.
>gpu in wrong slot dont ask about the square splotch
Nicholas Bennett
Got a Noctua NH-U12S for my 7700k, but feel I could be getting better temps (hit 75C+ on some games like Hitman and PUBG, no overclocking too), so was thinking of getting a better cooler. Should I get the U14S or go all the way and get an AIO, and which one then?
btw case is the Fractal R5, and the D15 isn't an option cause I have high profile RAM.
Xavier Cox
Just get a ryzen ;^)
Zachary Cook
High temperatures are perfectly normal thanks to the shitty TIM Intel uses. Don't like it, delid and void your warranty.
Jason Long
pcpartpicker.com/list/ffjpvV How does this look? I'm in the market for a CPU that's suitable for video editing, streaming, and high resolution/refresh rate gaming. I have my eye on ASUS's PG27VQ, mainly for the Quantum Dot and 1ms gtg (as well as 1440p/165), but if Gsync is a meme id rather get a freesync monitor. Is there anything I should change? GPU, PSU, storage? I might seap the motherboard for one of the new ones launching this Fall.
Ryder Foster
AMD Ryzen 7 1700 B350 PC Mate Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4, 2x8GB, 3200MHz (yes i checked if my motherboard supports it) Nzxt S340 SSD ADATA SU800 A random 2TB HDD MSI GTX Geforce 1060 6GB be quiet! Pure Power 10 700W
Rate, this will be soon my setup for adobe and fl studio shit + gaming on max 1080p.
Samuel Kelly
Bitcoin is crashing right now (probably because of what's coming next month), maybe it'll make my GPU restock faster...
Lincoln Evans
Can i expect a billion of used 580 and 1060 by monday?
Wyatt Martinez
It's you again. It looks great. Are you sticking to the stock cooler? That's why I did and I'm running the 1700 at 3.6 1.2V for maximum stability at respectable temps
Jaxson Gomez
Bitcoin crashing won't affect Etherium
Nicholas Edwards
That could actually happen, if the miners PANIC hard enough to start selling.
When bitcoin crashes, everyone crashes.
Kevin Morales
Looks good but PSU is oversized and make sure you get some nice gold rated for OC. EVGA G2/3 or Seasonic G/Prime for example. SSD is ok, just stay away from the 128GB version, that one is shit. For the HDD i recommend Toshiba P300.
Blake Morris
Ryzen bros SMT on or off?
Blake Bennett
It'll bounce upward soon.
That's wrong. Most of the money going into Eth is through Bitcoin, the volatility of BTC affects most altcoins.
Eth is a fucking retarded coin and I can't wait for it to crash so all the newfags get rekt.
It's a terrible thing to mine because the fucking ICOs have so much of the coin and can dump large amounts at any price, at any time.
Jace Adams
What is causing the BTC crash? Will the jews finally pay for their crimes?
Ethan Robinson
Off for single threaded performance (so, muh gaymes), on for massively parallel workloads, especially if memory bounds.
Just keep it on if you don't know, it doesn't hurt most of the time.
Jordan Reyes
Ye i heard Spire is pretty fucking good and quiet.
Nathan Lopez
Bitcoin 'crashes' are typically healthy movements in trends because it means a lot of the money is being taken out of bitcoin so it can go back into it, pushing it higher.
Mason Young
So the jews are still getting away with it?
Carson Gutierrez
I doubt my 1600 will get a masive boost if i take it off
Easton Adams
pcpartpicker.com/list/NTFcLD I'm able to buy a 1060 6gb from a friend for $200 when he upgrades but should I wait until RX580s are available again?
Any issues or ways I could make this even cheaper?
It's a gaming (plus some video editing) build and I want to be able to maintain 60 fps at 1080p on games like BF1 at very high to max settings.
>no storage because I already have a hard drive >i really don't want to buy Windows 10 but pirating it seems like a bitch of a process
Robert White
I've been one of said jews for a few years now.
From this image, Bitcoin could either be approaching the 'despair' phase of a large trend, which means a big crash coming soon, or a small sell-off to re-accumulate some more Bitcoin at a cheaper price to push it higher.
The crypto game changed completely recently, though. So much more money coming in all over, so it's most likely gonna go down just a little for the next pump upward in anticipation for SegWit.
Ryan Turner
>It'll bounce upward soon. Any other time, it would have, but with the UASF nobody is going to buy that shit knowing that it might lose half its value if things go south.
There was a HUGE crash a while ago, it bounced back, and all the people who bought before the bounce are now cashing in causing another crash.
They're cashing in because Bitcoin is failing to scale, and next month people are going to fork it and split it into a bunch of different versions of Bitcoin. If things go well only one version will survive and it'll solve some problems. If things don't go well it's going to the grandest, most chaotic clusterfuck since MtGox failed.
TLDR: Dangerous time to be holding bitcoins, or any crypto for that matter.
Justin Gomez
Why are those fucktards at AMD after months and months of delays and delays releasing only high-high-veryfuckinhigh-end vega's, how in the flying fuck are the mid-tier cards not ready after FUCKING YEARS
Levi Perry
The 1060 is comparable to the RX580. They are 5% within performance margins, some wins the 1060, some others the 580 So just get the 1060 from your friend and let go of the 580
Stick to the 1060 6GB
Caleb Hernandez
Yeah, get win10 from kinguin.net for $25USD
Isaac Morgan
>but with the UASF nobody is going to buy that shit knowing that it might lose half its value if things go south.
Things won't go south because of negative fundamentals regarding SegWit, and if it does go south because of technicals, it'll be for the purpose of getting cheaper coins.
The price is this high right now because of the block halving from 25 btc to 12.5 btc.
Ryder Reed
Get the 1060 then sell it for massive profits
Brandon Ross
It's also worth mentioning that a Bitcoin drop will only result in people putting their money into altcoins, as it always has. So alts are to boom upward.
Carter Roberts
roommate is building a rig and needs help
he has a corsair hx850i psu, an msi tomahawk z270 mother board, and a rx 580 that he's trying to connect with a raiser. the raiser has a 6pin power connection, where would I plug that in? on the 8 6+2 pin pcie port, or the 6 pin peripheral port?
Austin Garcia
What's the square splotch user?
Ethan Morris
Why did you create a thead way, way before the thread is going to die? Fuck, it's gonna die in 3 hours at best, why are you so stupid OP?
Alexander Brooks
can an RX560 properly use 4GB or would it be fine to go for the 2GB version and not really be missing out on anything?
Chase Miller
Segwit might fail because our covert ASICBOOST friends aren't going to back down, and segwit just barely has those 80%. Things are further complicated by the hard fork proposals.
Bitcoin has actual users and a fundamental intrisic value: it's widely used to sell drugs and other goods on various marketplaces.
Altcoins generally follow bitcoin around, because they have no intrisic value. If bitcoin crashes, the altcoins and shitcoins follow.
Brandon Cox
>Altcoins generally follow bitcoin around, because they have no intrisic value. >If bitcoin crashes, the altcoins and shitcoins follow.
That's completely wrong. When bitcoin bleeds, it causes new money to go into alts to hedge their losses. Alts go up.
Robert Baker
Modern AAA Games maxed out at 1080p are using 2.8-3.2 GB of VRAM so there you go
Sebastian Hill
How is this pcpartpicker.com/list/y8Nqf8 I don't game, I use some (~10 usually just two active) virtual machines, ram size is the the current bottleneck in my laptop.
Eli Harris
but is it powerful enough to use all 4GB before it bottlenecks? the 560s seem to have risen in price too so I wanted to save as much as I could
Aaron Hernandez
Looks like sticker residue to me. Perhaps he misplaced his Amada Kokoro sticker?
Justin Roberts
People trade ETH/XBT, LTC/XBT and all the relevant currency pairs, you know. If what you said were true, exploiting it would be as easy as buying alts were BTC crashes and buying back after, that would be very predictable and very easy money.
That market is more efficient that you might think, the altcoin/XBT charts are basically flat no matter what BTC is doing, when they move it's for a different reason.
Picrelated, flat even through a bitcoin crash.
Chase Moore
>that would be very predictable and very easy money.
It is, it's called Alt Season.
>LTC >Relevant
Oh user...
As for your image, it literally shows Eth's last crash just the other day. No need for it to fall even lower.
Logan Robinson
Rate my build
Levi Ross
a bit expensive considering the parts are quite old by now
Jeremiah Williams
Then 8 gb might be enough for you.
Connor Carter
>It is, it's called Alt Season. It's called a pump and dump, and you bet your ass it won't last anywhere near a season.
> >LTC > >Relevant My point exactly. Of all the shitcoins, LTC is the biggest, and it's still isn't called the Rock for nothing.
Only BTC and ETH can remotely claim to have a nonzero intrisic value, and even ETH just largely follows BTC around.
>As for your image, it literally shows Eth's last crash just the other day. No need for it to fall even lower. Which, please note, happened at the same time as a BTC crash. And what my graph is showing is the ETH/XBT, so ETH fell even more than bitcoin.
That's not what I'd call alts going up.
Andrew Gutierrez
>It's called a pump and dump, and you bet your ass it won't last anywhere near a season
So you're new and haven't experienced alt season before, got it.
John Bailey
That's what people were thinking when ZEC reached $2,000,000 a pop, shortly before crashing back into dust where it belongs.
There's no altcoin season, there's an epidemic of FOMO afflicted idiots throwing their money at trash hoping it goes 50x.
Go ahead, see if that works for you.
Jason Lewis
I don't know I currently have 6gb, 8gb might be just about enough for me so I was giving myself some slack.
Leo Hughes
>cheapest available 1050 is 130$ >cheapest available 1050ti is 185$
Josiah Turner
pcpartpicker.com/list/MCHBRG My budget is around $500, don't want to go over $600. Is there anything I should change here? I read the user reviews on everything and they seems to be alright. Should I get a fan or something?
Connor Phillips
Yeah a lot of these parts are old because I got most of them 2-3 years ago.
Jose Fisher
overkill psu for such a budget build. you could do something like this: pcpartpicker.com/list/zdNqf8 better gpu, motherboard with 4 dimm slots and dual channel memory (2x4gb, it's faster). also the monitor is not a total trash (1600x900 in 2017 ?? jesus)
Jack Sanchez
Does anyone know of any good quality cases that aren't aimed solely at gamers?(no side windows, no colours, no leds, no unnecessary crap) Or should I just try to find some old piece of shit and gut it?
Jaxon Perry
I hear this one is a pretty good, no frills, solid case:
Fuck this shit can't make up my mind. On the other hand G4560 would be enough for my 1080p gayming needs. On the other Ryzen 1600 is just so juicy.
If I bought G4560 I'd have enough money for GTX980ti and I could upgrade later to used i7-6700k. Also, I could get used high-end motherboard for peanuts. But then I'd be supporting Intel and I'd have to be afraid that my system just wouldn't work one day when warranties are up.
Used LGA1150 is also cheap as hell.
I tried to get drunk and order and haggle the fucking parts but I just couldn't make up my mind. Do I need a six core cpu?
Is this overkill? I want to play AAA games and do digital painting. My questions are:
What's the compatibility issue with the mobo and the cooler? Do I even need the cooler? I'm overcompensating with the RAM, right? Why is the monitor so suspiciously cheap?
Alternatively pick a cooler that's compatible out of the box. Or stick with the stock cooler if you want to save money, it's not too shaby.
Evan Edwards
>MOTHERBOARD'S MEMORY COMPATIBLITY LIST
literal memes
Nolan Morris
>What's the compatibility issue with the mobo and the cooler? New socket that's shaped differently from AM3, so most old coolers don't support it out of the box.
>Do I even need the cooler? Not particularly, unless you're planning to overclock. The stock cooler on 1600 is pretty good, and sufficient even for a mild overclock.
>I'm overcompensating with the RAM, right? Eh... you probably don't NEED more than 8 GB, but with your budget there's no reason not to get 16GB.
Hudson Richardson
here is a slightly better one, you dont need watercooling on a 1600
