2017

>still using OS with (((systemd)))
>still refusing to believe Mint and Debian are bloatware
>still refusing to believe (((independent))) garbage like SolusOS are just as bloatware as Debian

debian is actually very nice

who is that

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> debian
> bloat

kys gentoo fag

Y hate systemd?

Fedora is comfy, why should i change it?

That's a dude.
Probably the most convincing trap I've seen.
But the jaw line is a dead giveaway.

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Sauce?

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Its time to go outside son.

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BRRRAPPP

inb4 404

even if what you said was true...ass is the great equalizer.

> error 404:penis_ not_found

systemd is a fucking stockpile of horse shit.
One day you will wake up and notice even the kernel is replaced with it.

Y not read news?
Systemd Boxen can be owned with a dns query

if systemd is that bad than why does manjaro is considered shit it doesnt use systemd and also if my os has a lot of extra shit but is still 1gb is it still bloatware

>Not being able to distinguish traps from women.
That's a man you fucks
Jesus guys

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>Not posting a comprehensive(or simple) list of non systemD distros so others and myself can try them out.....

3/10

fucking rekt

Jawline is male-males jaw angle is closer to 90 degrees
Brow is also male because it doesn't slope back evenly.

It's a very convincing Trap

Did you take your pills today?

Look at him. Disgusting. Have fun jerking off to men with huge penises, fag.

nobody will do shit for you.
Search yourself.
man google
man brain
start from there

My slaves are bloatware, should I kill them?

>fucking rekt
Go ahead and Jack off to a post op male.
I warned you
I fucking warned you.

Is this actually real?

ok i believe you
just answer why nonsystemd distros are also considered shit

>everything must be a trap because i think everyone is edgy on the chan

consider starting your sexual life faggots

You are such a faggot. Is Trisquel any good?

Are you one of those that also believe the shape of skull determines whether you're a criminal?

this
Insisting there's measurable difference between "biological"(whatever tf that means) females and males is exactly like phrenology:
outdated pseudoscience

That fagot looks exactly like the grinch

>thinks there's no difference between genders
>implies biology isnt a thing

>>>/reddit/

There is a measurable difference, but jaw angle and brow shape really isn't reliable.

You do realize sex is a social construct correct?

>he doesnt know about net image
>he doesnt know about debootstrap/chroot for even more minimalism

You're reffering to gender, that's the real social construct, there are only two sexes and each person has one which has been born with.

"Gender" doesn't even have a direct translation in many latin-based languages because it's bullshit.Before the frankfurt school & other propaganda/degeneracy spreading places the word "gender" wasn't even mainstream, you would have SEX on ID/birth certificate/etc.That's why you don't have direct translations for "transgender" but only transexual for example.

You probably have a good intention but yeah...

Take your bigotry back.

Sex is just something bronze age hunter gatherers came up with to refer to someone happening to have longer hair and liking men vs the opposite.

"Men" and "Women" are virtually the same from a biological standpoint.
There's as much difference as the difference between an individual from an ethnic macrogroup (let's say aborigenal) from another (caucasoid for instance).

Maybe on the outside. Male and female are biologicaly very distinct in all mammals, including us. It might be inconvenient to you, but no matter how much hormones you pump your kids with, it won't make them biologically functional as the opposite sex.

>"Men" and "Women" are virtually the same from a biological standpoint.
False.

>There's as much difference as the difference between an individual from an ethnic macrogroup (let's say aborigenal) from another (caucasoid for instance).
False equivalency. The two are not directly comparable.

>Male and female are biologicaly very distinct in all mammals

Absolute antiscientific nonsense.
"Sexual dimorphism" is a social construct and all over the place across the mammal class.

>it won't make them biologically functional
They're 99% the same apart from a very specific use case scenario.
Anything else including lactation is the same in both "sexes" and entirely hormone dependent.

As I said, if you argue for that line you might aswell admit you're a racist because you can find more genetic differences between races than between "sexes".

>False equivalency. The two are not directly comparable.

Says you. If you focus on a couple specific chromosomes only as the end all criteria then by this logic races are real, which is obviously absolute racist nonsense.

Windows doesn't use systemd

Yea, it looks like its some of the people who frequented He Will Not Divide Us

How about you worry about yourself instead of other people. Why don't you get off your high horse while you're at it.

>Absolute antiscientific nonsense.
That's why even little kids (or lambs or what have you) can tell the difference between a male and a female of their own kind.
>They're 99% the same apart from a very specific use case scenario.
Hence they're not functional. If they can't fulfill their only task as an organism, they are not functional.
>As I said, if you argue for that line you might aswell admit you're a racist because you can find more genetic differences between races than between "sexes"
No you can't find more genetic differences between races than you can between sexes. Y chromosome, though very small, carries large number of genes (most of which are expressed, unlike in other chromosomes). The difference between races in this regard is minor in comparison.

Furthermore if you stop pumping your trans individual with hormones, his body will change back to the way it was genetically determined. Unless you also prevent it from producing large enough quantities of given hormones, but even then it doesn't produce enough hormones on its own to prevent the regression.

You clearly can see the ballsack you retards.

>if you look at this I can clearly see you're correct
>but I don't like that so you're not correct

This fucking guy.
I loved it when they said he shouldn't lead the march for science because he's male.
Just don't ever engage with these progressive crazies.

>That's why even little kids (or lambs or what have you) can tell the difference between a male and a female of their own kind
the very definition of social construct, ty
>Hence they're not functional. If they can't fulfill their only task as an organism, they are not functional.
teleological fallacy
>No you can't find more genetic differences between races than you can between sexes. Y chromosome, though very small, carries large number of genes (most of which are expressed, unlike in other chromosomes). The difference between races in this regard is minor in comparison.
Yes you can, look it up. Please stop displaying embarassing leveles of ignorance and bigotry on a scientific board user.
>Furthermore if you stop pumping your trans individual with hormones, his body will change back to the way it was genetically determined. Unless you also prevent it from producing large enough quantities of given hormones, but even then it doesn't produce enough hormones on its own to prevent the regression.
Not an argument. That's akin as saying if you stop washing you smell therefore the "natural" state of homo sapiens is to smell like rotten carrion

No, your "argument" was ipse dixit pure and simple.

windows is the shit we're worried systemd is trying to turn linux into. putting everything in the init process makes the OS less stable as there is more that can go wrong in the primary process. putting DNS stuff in the init process is fucking stupid. this is like winnuke in the 90s level of stupidity in an OS.

Yes. Gender Theory is as much a "theory" as evolution is.
It's just inbred rednecks misusing the scientific vs colloquial meaning of the word.

Making our country the laughing stock of the planet once again

>nice ass
>short hair
HNNNNGHHHH.

Op is a data mining nsa fag don't reply to him. He shits up pol constantly

>the very definition of social construct, ty
That's weird, why can isolated rats tell the difference then?
>teleological fallacy
Oh you're a philosopher, no wonder you're so ignorant. The purpose of organisms is to survive, mammals do this by passing on their genes, which is done by having offsprings. When we can have offsprings without sex, then sexual dimorphism can be considered useless.
>Yes you can, look it up. Please stop displaying embarassing leveles of ignorance and bigotry on a scientific board user.
Ethnicity, which is presumably what you mean by race, doesn't come even close to sex in terms of genetic difference and differentiability. The expression rate of valid sequences on Y chromosome is largest of all chromosomes. The fact that Y chromosome also carries a lot of junk DNA doesn't mean it's expression rate is lower.
>Not an argument. That's akin as saying if you stop washing you smell therefore the "natural" state of homo sapiens is to smell like rotten carrion
Completely missed the point. What this is saying is sex is real, genetically determined property you can't change on a whim.

>That's weird, why can isolated rats tell the difference then?
Rats can't tell the difference between a real one and a puppet sprayed with estrogen.
You just proved my point.
Them being able to tell something as negligible as sex is neither here nor there.
>Oh you're a philosopher, no wonder you're so ignorant. The purpose of organisms is to survive, mammals do this by passing on their genes, which is done by having offsprings. When we can have offsprings without sex, then sexual dimorphism can be considered useless.
I'm not. Just not a HS dropout like you.
Again, you're using a teleological fallacy.
"Purpose" has no bearing in the scientific realm whatsoever.
>The fact that Y chromosome also carries a lot of junk DNA doesn't mean it's expression rate is lower.

So you admit I'm right.

>Completely missed the point. What this is saying is sex is real, genetically determined property you can't change on a whim.
"Sex" is a man made category, just as arbitrary as "race"(that was my point in using the word btw). Both cannot strictly be "changed" but both are:
a)irrelevant
b)mimicked so well it becomes a moot point

Please please please read up on the issue.
Unless you're just a Sup Forums troll beyond redemption that is.

Use case has nothing to do with it. The two sexes are physically different.
If we are exactly the same, how come my wife has a hole where I have a penis? And why is it that, no matter how many times she tries, she can't get me pregnant?
>zero biological difference
Im a pretty liberal dude but I have to think that is bait. If you talk to Trans gender people who go through the change, you will find out pretty fucking quickly that the two sexes (maybe there are more that you need to identify? There is still a difference) are different. To go from female to male we still don't have a great way to perform bottom surgery. And top surgery involves more than just
>tits
>no tits
As a male I literally don't have a place for eggs to grow, and I lack eggs.
I think maybe the argument your attempting to make is that, because all humans form from basically the same stuff in the womb, and different body parts have parallels, (vaginal, penis, ovaries, testicles, etc) that females and males are the same. But there not.

Invent all the sexes you want. But

XY - Grats dude
XX - Maybe next time, but she sure is a cutie pie
YY - Error
XXY - Error
XYY - Error
XXX - On an external hard drive somewhere
YYY - I don't even think that's a thing

Version 233 already fixed the issue.

>Im a pretty liberal dude but I have to think that is bait.

wat yeah im a tranny and i think thats bad tumblr parody bait

>The two sexes are physically different.
Leaving aside hermaphrodites for a second,
so are the "races".
Are you racist?
>Im a pretty liberal dude but
Is the new "Im not racist but"
There's such thing as internalized racism you know, no matter how "liberal" you perceive yourself.

The rest of your post is basically repeating ad nauseam fallacies and the single thing trans people can't do...yet: reproduction.
There are "trannies" that adhere to national socialism, what is your point?
And no self respecting trans individual would use the word you just used, as it is derogatory.

Post legs

>Rats can't tell the difference between a real one and a puppet sprayed with estrogen.
Equivalent tests have been done on monkeys, with the same result.
>Them being able to tell something as negligible as sex is neither here nor there.
Not what the evidence seems to show. Surely the very mechanic of survival is not negligible, no matter how much you want it to be.
>I'm not. Just not a HS dropout like you.
I'm doing good in EE, thanks famalamalia.
>Again, you're using a teleological fallacy.
>"Purpose" has no bearing in the scientific realm whatsoever.
If you so much desire to take things in scientific realm, maybe use scientific arguments. Y chromosome exists, thus sex is a thing. There are no means so far to function as a specie without it, thus it is significant. The effect Y chromosome has on individual's body is so big, that we had to invent two words for one thing: male and female.
>So you admit I'm right.
Right in that Y isn't as big as other chromosomes or that it doesn't carry as much genes. The expression rate is the point though, Y has by far the largest expression rate.
>"Sex" is a man made category, just as arbitrary as "race"(that was my point in using the word btw). Both cannot strictly be "changed" but both are:
>a)irrelevant
They are relevant or there wouldn't be the need for them.
>b)mimicked so well it becomes a moot point
Sex can be mimicked pretty well apart from the whole point of it: being able to have offsprings. This is the whole point of sex, you need a male and a female to produce an offspring. This is why it's relevant, this is why there are the words.
Now as for the race, you can't really mimic it as well as sex, because it doesn't manifest as mainly a hormonal balance when it comes to appearance or differentiability by senses.
>Please please please read up on the issue.
I don't read gender studies bullshit, i'm more interested in sciences.
>Unless you're just a Sup Forums troll beyond redemption that is.
Just a bored summerfag

how is this thread still up?

kind of disapointed in Sup Forums for feeding the flames

also
>not using debian netinstall + sysv + openrc

Wait. Let's be clear. I can argue that there is a biological difference between sexes, and understand that, because we are a part of the same species, that out DNA doesn't contain large differences. Same thing with "race". There are biological differences between different "races" of people, but our DNA doesn't contain massive differences because we are the same species. Physical differences I members of the same species can exist without a large DNA difference between individuals of the same species.


Confirmed bait. Dammit. I bit. You got me.

Not him/her but:
>that we had to invent two words for one thing: male and female.

nah illiterate sheepherders did that 10000 yrs ago or whatever.
Science itself has been run by white heterosexuals dudes since then, so it may very well be all social constructs.
I suppose you could reword things and concepts to make him/her right.

>Same thing with "race"

Glad you finally admit to be just a racist then.
Not bait, just honest intellectual provocation to demonstrate that transphobes=racists.

>I don't read gender studies bullshit,
>i'm more interested in sciences.
Pick one you neanderthal.

>Just a bored summerfag
Right, so stop posting on this board and go shit up Sup Forums or reddit with your idiotic bigoted trolling

Languages evolve too. If there ceases to be the need for it, the words would stop being used.

>gender studies
>science
Oh user, you're really trying. Gender studies are as much a science as psychology is (read: not at all).

Okay. Please enlighten me then. What does exist? Males and females don't, so any two humans can get together and procreate correct?

The idea being that physically, it's impossible for what we describe as two males, or what we describe as two females(with no outside DNA introduction) to reproduce. This is the basis on which sex lies.

Because this is the "line" on which sex is drawn, it becomes clear that there are at least two sexes. It is simply a way to describe a human with a certain set of reproductive organs. This differs from "race" in thattraits from any "race" can exist in any other "race". The evidence that "race is a social construct overwhelm any scientific evidence pol may seek out from racist" scientists". The primary differing factor between male and female is internal, not external, and is clear: males can't physically produce offspring from within their own body(given the tools they have at birth, you might be able to implant a whom or something), while a female can(of they can find a male that will put their DNA in the pot to help create the baby)
There is literally no argument to the contrary, and the connection your making to racism isn't even a real argument.
>male female used to describe a single difference in humans
>"race" attempting to describe differences but failing over and over because the traits used to describe the different "races" exist in all the "races" to some degree

Get rekt baby.

Smiley face smiley face XD XD

>If there ceases to be the need for it, the words would stop being used
Right, they're already gradually disappearing.
I'm confused, again you admit I'm right.

> Gender studies are as much a science as psychology is (read: not at all).
Yawn. A STEMlarper. You do know that your tiny safespace is gonna be 100% updated to the newer, more intellectually rigorous, standards correct?
Like all human sciences and even your little precious gaymen already.

You're just a bitter conservative in denial, fighting tooth and nail against scientific progress much like back in Galileo's time.

Now go away as a self-admitted summerfag racist troll.

How think headed are you user with your pseudo knowledge? >inb4adhominem
Do you really want to live in a world where gender is actually a social construct? Why not mutilate animals and load them up with hormones to see if they can tell the diffrence between sexes? What will that bring us? Do you think nature intended two genders to procreate or is it just a coincedencse that men and woman were raised diffrently and treated diffrently with diffrent roles? You can dress, inject, and change whatever you want with yourself, but you will always be either a man or a woman. Sex exists no matter what stupid shit people are spitting in any >current year.

PS, I've never vistied pol once and I can see why people would want to try things thats only acceptable for the oppisite gender, but claiming that you've transitioned is just scientifically stupid. I won't treat the person any diffrently, but what they are saying just isn't true.

If you your a girl and want to be more like a boy, go ahead. But don't claim you are a boy. That's all.

Excellent bait

>What does exist?
A spectrum of "sexes"
>so any two humans can get together and procreate correct?
Some can some don't, much like sterile people.
You're using sexism-loaded categories.
Try to think in neutral terms please.
>This is the basis on which sex lies.
It's a flawed, heteronormative categorization don't you see?
Again, what are sterile, bisex and hermaphrodites

>The primary differing factor between male and female is internal, not external
What are phenotypes, and you should look it up, "races"(you should stop using the word btw) differ genetically as much as sexes.
I fully expect Academia to do what it's done to debunk racism in the next 5-10 years once we have enough people in place:
publish tons of literature using critical thinking to minimize and de-emphasize the toxic concepts.
>There is literally no argument to the contrary
I never said there was, I'm just saying they're outdated, deeply flawed, unscientific and arbitrary categories, and ultimately unimportant.
Especially as scientific progress will allow us to overcome the limitation in the foreseeable future.

You're essentially the guy arguing in 1700: "man can't fly because we can't make vehicles lighter than air! It's science!"
>"race" attempting to describe differences but failing over and over because the traits used to describe the different "races" exist in all the "races" to some degree
It's just a matter of time and effort user.
You just happened to be educated during the twilight of sexist scientific literature.
Open your eyes.

>Sex exists no matter what stupid shit people are spitting in any >current year.

They said the same thing about race you dippoopy.
They even classified negroids as non belonging to homo sapiens sapiens.
Science gets updated all the time.
People like you back then were grunting just the same because given their limited and archaic knowledge-base they felt it was "political subversion" while it was just progresss.

The rest of your post is homo and transphobic so I won't ddress it. Sorry.

How are they disappearing? That on kyrghyz tranny worship forum you don't read them as often? You could get out of your echo chamber, explore real world.

Gender studies (and other) don't have what STEM has, rigorous base. There's no better example of social construct as these laughable, totally arbitrary fields.
I don't play gaymens, never had, and putting the dumbest and cringiest collective of people as an example of progress is not a good thing to do. If you want anyone to take you seriously, that is.
I'm not a racist, i said that ethnical race is arbitrary concept which has very little footing in genetics. Now geographical race, that is entirely different because, environment has big effect on genes. If you want to dismiss that two populations evolving in entirely different environments will be equal, you can keep reading that gender studies textbook because you're beyond retarded.

Checkmate faggoo

I really wish Sup Forums would stay in Sup Forums.

>I'm not a racist
>geographical race, that is entirely different

>debian
>bloatware

you are the wrongest

Conservatards into scientism are really cute.

>science is rigorous we finally know the stuff for sure! stupid primitive past generations KEK
>g-gender is real you guys it's science ignore all the science that is being published saying otherwise

>gender

Opinion discarded

How are there so many idiots here getting baited THIS easily?

>my pattern recognition skills are approximately as advanced as google's ai

congratulations on breathing too

am I being le troled

The common notion of a racist is that of ethnical racist. There are significant differences between geographical races, from biological standpoint. I don't think it's useful outside of biology to be concerned about a race of anything.

Ethnicity and race both exist. Even small genetic differences can have a large effect, just look at different dog breeds. Dogs are all genetically similar, yet they vary widely in many aspects.

let me point out that dog breeds are not like human races.

wow what a clusterfuck of a thread.
Sup Forums raids are really a thing uh?

tl;dr: homosexuality was classified as a mental illness up to the 70s.
Gender, Sex will disappear and be reclassified in a matter of years too.

Deal with it

The same underlying logic still applies.

>dog breed
>human races
Wew lad. No, ethnicity isn't a thing in the way geographic race is as you can easily change it. You can be born to aboriginals but be culturally a viking or what have you. But you can't be born an offspring of population that evolved in jungle and suddenly decide to inherit traits that are typical of populations that evolved in siberian tundra.

If my dog decides to hump a stuffed toy is it really a different gender than """male""" ????? No, it's Darwinism. Fuck Sup Forums I swear.

HOW DARE YOU SUPRESS THE GENDER IDENTITY OF YOUR DOG?!

If your dog gets HRT and/or a "sex" change than yes it ceases to be """""male"""""" idiot.

The fact it's into stuffed animals means its sexual orientation isn't """"heterosexual"""" either

Where's the gijutsu?

there's no such thing as "geographic" race.

It's just a racist dog whistle.