He fell for the amd vega meme

>he fell for the amd vega meme
How does it feel to wait for an inferior product?

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Let's never talk about nVidia rebrands.

3d mark leak puts RX Vega ahead of 1080 and below 1080ti where most people who aren't retarded expected it to fall.
I see no problem with this so long as the price is right.

Correct. And as long as it's priced well.

But amd still Fucked up. Let's not forget that. It's twice as big as 1080ti and should not make amd any money. Still gonna buy it tho since I need a high end amd card.

Just hope they go gddr6 next time.

> It's twice as big as 1080ti
What? It's 484mm^2 vs 471mm^2.
>Just hope they go gddr6 next time.
Why? Wasting die space for DDR PHYs is retarded.

with the exception of gtx 300 series (OEM only), there has never been a case where the next GTX #80 card wasn't significantly better than the previous one

>I see no problem with this so long as the price is right.
it will probably have slightly better price/performance, but not enough to justify buying it over an nvidia card, because of the worse driver support and fewer features, and it was released too late, gtx 1070 and 1080 already took a lot of the market share

>3d mark leak puts RX Vega ahead of 1080 and below 1080ti

They rebranded the 8800 twice, once to a 9800, then to a 260.

They still hold the record whether you like it or not.

>then to a 260
that's not true in the slightest retard

>I see no problem with this so long as the price is right.
Problem is the HMB will probably prevent that, I see RX Vega being massively overpriced just like the Fury cards were.

It's two stacks versus four stacks and the interposter is much much smaller. It's BoM is going to be barely bigger than 1080ti's.

>It's two stacks versus four stacks and the interposter is much much smaller. It's BoM is going to be barely bigger than 1080ti's.
Well that's not going to do it a lot of good when it needs to be priced competitively against the 1080, now does it? There is also the bigger issue of supply, how many RX Vega's can they actually make with HBM supply being what it is? Even if they could afford to make it a $400 card on production cost alone, they need to make back their development costs too. Which are going to be high on Vega just based on how long it has been delayed.

>3d mark leak puts RX Vega ahead of 1080 and below 1080ti

I wish they tested it with a Ryzen CPU

Oh Fuck. Well that's not bad. Maybe the 1080 was 250

they did, and it was even worse

You don't know anything about RX Vega's performance.
So, wait™.

it was the G92 core for 8800gt then rebranded to 9800gtx and then reworked G92b/a to GTX 250

Link?

3dmark.com/3dm11/12256245

>Meanwhile the R9 580 is literally a rebranded 7970

no it isnt

the 7970 was rebranded into:
280x
380x

280x is 7970. A bit old tho :)

And yet the 7970 still outperforms it.
AMD YES!

Tonga (380x) is different enough from Tahiti even if it's a descendant. Tahiti has none of the fancy color compression that Tonga does, so that's definitely not a strict rebrand. Plus I believe they nerfed Tonga's bandwidth to kneecap it so it wouldn't step on Hawaii's toes.

>And yet the 7970 still outperforms it.
See above. Tahiti and Tonga should trade blows depending on what you're asking them to do.

380X was Tonga, ie a rebranded 285.
King of rebrands was the 7850 --> 265 -->370

>380X was Tonga, ie a rebranded 285.

To be pedantic the 380x was not a rebranded 285 - it had a higher core count. The 285 was rebranded as the 380.

Just wait for 1070 levels

AMD gets a pass for rebranding though, because
- the 9500 could be unlocked to a 9700
- the 9800 SE could be unlocked to a 9800 Pro
- the 6950 could be unlocked to a 6970
- the Fury could be unlocked to a Fury X
- the 470/480 4GB all came with 8GB
- the 4xx line can be flashed to 5xx line

Hey, sure they can.
Enjoy your house fires.

Don't forget early 290's could be flashed to 290x's.

so wait
you are saying amd intentionally gimps their cards just so they can rerelease them for more expensive with the only difference being a "firmware update" ? why the fuck do they get away with this?

>he thinks Pitcairn was king of rebrands
That's not G92
8800GS
8800GT
8800GTS
9600GSO
9600GTX
9800GT + Special Green Edition
9800GTX
9800GTX+
9800GX2
GTS 150
GT 230
GTS 240
GTS 250 + Special Green Edition
GT 330
GT 350
8800M GTS
8800M GTX
9800M GT
9800M GTX
GTX 260M
GTX 280M
GTX 285M
VX 200
FX 3700
FX 4700
FX 2800M
FX 3600M
FX 3700M
FX 3800M
Plex 2100

Binning, industry practice. Most companies don't even let you flash em like that.

What the fuck...

AMD's product segmentation has never made any sense at all. The RX 460 was gimped Polaris 10, for seemingly no reason at all. You could unlock cores with a BIOS flash. There was a huge gap between the RX 460 and RX 470 that could have been filled by a 460X. Ryzen 3 is the same thing. It's a Ryzen 5 with no hyperthreading, except they can barely make enough since the yields are so low which is why it's been delayed so long. Why does Ryzen 3 even exist? A Raven Ridge APU with no graphics would make much more sense.

usually the lesser version would be a slightly defective version of the flagship version. the "unlock" isn't 100%

>GTX 760: Rebrand
>GTX 760 ti: Rebrand
>GTX 770: Rebrand
>cheapest card that wasn't a rebrand $649 GTX 780

This isn't ancient history. This was just 2 generations ago, but apparently it's only bad when AMD does it.

:thinking:

OP's example is worse because nvidia rebrands from e.g. to 680 to 770 and added a better 780, but amd rebranded from e.g. 290 to 390

Yields are actually absurdly high. Something like 80% are passing for a 1700.

They might be Raven Ridge cutdowns after all ala Athlons

I don't know, how does it feel to be a jew cuck?

that's what he said - the yields for the defective dies that will go into R3 Ryzen are too low.

That's why they'll bin shitty APUs for R3 i guess.

Those cards were all the previous generation's next step up. The 760 was a 670, and the 770 was a 680. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this sort of rebranding. AMD's rebranding is far shittier, selling the same GPUs in the same segment for a worse price.

Whoa, going through 7850/265/370 reviews, did Toms Hardware fake their results for the 370?

tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-r9-390x-r9-380-r7-370,4178.html

They have the 370 mislabeled as a rebranded 270. when the 370 was a 7850 and the 270 was a 7870. They continue this on the bottom where they list their HIS 270 as having 1024 cores.
Go into their benchmarks and they have that 270 compared against a reference 7850, where it barely beats it by ~10%. The 270 has 25% more cores at 7.5% more clockspeed with 16.7% faster memory.
Anandtech has the 270 beating the 7850 by 16-25%. For that article Toms has it at about 8% across the board, with it even only being 1% in AutoCad.

You're not funny.

That's only because AMD had already lowered the prices of the old generation cards a couple weeks before releasing the new ones.

Nvidia sells their old shit for insane prices right until the very last moment so they can claim the new cards are a lot cheaper.

AMD is still selling the rebranded GPU for more than the original asking price, while Nvidia is selling the rebranded GPU for less.

R9 290 launched for $400
R9 290x launched for $550

R9 390 offered R9 290x performance for $330
R9 390x was a breathed on 290x 8GB for $430

all of these wipe the floor with any contemporary Nvidia offering at the same price

No you see hawaii isn't the godmachine of gpus because of

>reasons

>my 390 with the highest minimum framerate before jumping to HBM prices

Still feels good man...

nice cherry-picked benchmark, it's just because of vram, gtx 970 beats 380x 4gb for example