The great things with Arch are the AUR to fit your every need and a constant mission to keep packages as vanilla as possible, unlike Debian. But Debian packaging is finer-grained, I mean, you can install headers and debugging symbols separately, which makes better indicated if you plan to develop for Linux and stick a stable set of software versions. Read: Arch is comfier to use, Debian (and its derivatives) is better to market.
Justin Reed
NixOS: Once you get the concept all distros just seems too primitive.
Leo Scott
Forget to add: fuck systemd. Someday, we'll get to have a very serious distribution that throws systemd and most bloat in the trash.
John Reyes
you are right. void is the best alternative. assuming you did install arch without another installer void will be ezpz for you. documentation is bad but forums are really helpful too
they also have xbps-src if you wanna compile stuff
also if you need help with void stuff join my slack
Henry Jones
This
Camden Long
I'm riding with Void then, hope it will install with no problems since I want to encrypt all partitions.
Kevin Cox
Stop with this Mint meme, it's so bad and bloated. If I have to install any beginner distro it will be Obontoo or Fedora, not this stinky piece of crap.
Brayden Fisher
I heard a lot of good about NixOS, do they use binary packages or everything is source-based? Any bigger issues with this distribution?
Henry Nelson
hes not beginner tho i say void since he has some loonix experience
but i agree that for beginners fedora or *buntu
Jackson Miller
i heard there was lots of broken packages
use source mage
Charles Torres
Ubuntu mate, mate
Jackson Morris
GuixSD is easier and more humane. Nix laid the foundation, Guix then took what they learned working on it and improved it.
He's right though, that we ever didn't do package management or OS design like this is retrospectively absolutely retarded. In ~5 years, you're going to see all other major branches [poorly] copying the work they're doing today and an explosion of Nix/Guix based distros. The sooner you step up the better - One of the best things to ever happen to my computer.
Ryan Parker
KDE is lighter than Gnome you retard
David Young
devuan or slackware but using binary packages from fedora's package manager
Anthony Turner
Fedora isn't a botnet. It's entirely open source so you can go through all the code to check if you want. Also there's nothing wrong with systemd, it's actually a very nice and fast init system.
Isaac Ortiz
>It's entirely open source except for the binary blobs, which bribasically us to the question: are you lying or retarded?
Luke James
>bribasically brings*
Adrian Collins
but still shit, I'd lay both of them into the trash
James Reed
Devuan
Michael Wood
Guix lacks with packages and it lacks so badly and it's autistic distro so you can dream about installing this with working wifi
Jacob Young
>hard to install uh Void Linux is pretty easy to install. Just follow the steps in the installer
Jayden Walker
Does it accept non free firmware? If so, I will give it a try
Landon Morales
they say encryption is not working, I mean LVM/LUKS
Parker Watson
Still inherited much of Debian's bloat.
Might consider Slackware at some point...
Eli Baker
1) That's not true at all. 2) The way it works allows you to easily define your own package (using normal Guile[Scheme]) and build anything you have the source for. Furthermore, being that everyone who uses it does this, you can find tons of package definitions people have made for themselves that are not in the official repos by just asking in the IRC.
It's perfectly ready and usable, and because of what it offers (package management and lisp API wise), more usable than anything else I've ever tried. I've even installed it without issue on an EFI Macbook. Please stop spreading fud and lies about it.
Oliver Parker
ok, I believe you how about wifi? is it working? do they support non-free firmware/blobs?
Ian Jones
You can just not install those. Also most other distros have binary blobs as well for drivers and such.
Xavier Clark
I gave up distro-hopping on account of laziness and just use Debian stable. It's pretty good.
Chase Hill
It's an official GNU distro endorsed by the FSF - It does not support nonfree anything, and you will get no help in trying to make it from the devs. It ships with basically any free firmware you could need though, so any freedom respecting usb wifi dongle will just work natively.
If you really can't make the full OS work with whatever hardware constraints you have, I still highly recommend using the Guix package manager on whatever other distro you end up choosing.
Joshua Morris
>I tried minimal installation and I like it BUT muh systemd and it's probably botnet, prove me wrong
Everytime there is a great operating system, someone baits
>But Systemd
Fuck off
Caleb Flores
>GuixSD >not NixOS
Connor Barnes
I don't know why you Nix people can't be humble and happy about Guix. Guix people have nothing but respect and appreciation for Nix. We're really on the same team and should not be infighting like this. So long as they choose one of these, we win and should be happy, the world becomes a better place for all - I just happen to think Guix is more accessible for someone new to this approach.
Joseph Richardson
Devuan...
Mason Carter
why don't you just consider a good distro desu :)
Connor Cook
>hard to install If you need help with the encryption ask in /fglt/ or void irc/forum. Documentation is not the best but arch wiki should be complementary
