If you want help: >Assemble your parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >State the budget for your build (and country if not the USA) >List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate >Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs? How to assemble a PC, select components & more (kind of outdated) wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC
CPUs: No i5 unless discounted >G4560/G4600 - Budget builds (R5 1400 - Cheapest quad core you can get (Ryzen 3 soon) >R5 1500x - Good but up to 1600 if you can >R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage; 1600x if you want higher stock clocks >i7 7700k - 144hz only >R7/Used Xeon/Threadripper - Compute/Multitask/VM/mixed use; Not for just gaming
GPUs: Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser >Integrated CPU Graphics - Desktop stuff and very light games >GTX 1050(Ti) - Lower end budget cards, drop settings on newer games, RX560 beaten by both >RX570 - 1080p@60~hz maxed, running most maxed older games at 100~Hz >RX580 and GTX1060 6GB - 1080p@80hz maxed, 1440p@60hz at lower settings; RX580 better in newer games >GTX 1070 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high >GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz / 1440p@60hz maxed, 4k@60hz in a few games; Probably the highest end card you need for 1080p/1440p >GTX 1080Ti - 1440p@144hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games
RAM: >Check your Mobo QVL before buying any RAM >Ryzen CPUs benefits a lot from high speed RAM
General: ALWAYS LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS! Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor. The Ryzen lineup comes with surprisingly good stock coolers. consider using them over any
Just got a 7700k, I have a dark rock 3 on it. 73C with aida 64 at 4.7ghz, voltage left on auto. Case is a fractal design nano s. I have two 140mm fans on intake at 1k rpm, the dark rock 3 at 1400 or 1500rpm, just with the fan that came on it, and a 120mm fan on rear exhaust at 1200rpm. The top moduvent piece of the case is off but has no fans installed, it's just venting. That's pretty decent in my opinion considering it's still almost silent sitting on my desk. What does Sup Forums think?
Also 1080ti, which one is best. I have a Strix card right now and love it. Dead silent, overclocked slightly and is only hitting 62C in that tiny ass case.
Zachary Clark
Basically I have 2 options that are exactly the same in price but have exactly the same issue. 1. MSI B350M Gaming Pro MOBO with Corsair RAM that is on QVL but with different capacity (16gb on QVL vs 8gb I can buy that's not) 2. ASRock B350M-HDV and G.Skill Trident Z RAM, same shit there - 16gb version is on QVL and 8gb is not.
Wat do
Christian Jones
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Dylan Thompson
What are the best motherboard options to complement a R5 1600/GTX 1070 build? I had my eyes on the ASUS Prime B-350 Plus but it has slightly subpar reviews from what I've seen.
Jeremiah White
If it is Ryzen always get RAM that is on the QVL. You don't want your shit not POSTing
Lincoln Brooks
posting here because thread got no replies:
this is on sale for $270: 250+20 dollar shipping (no tax apparently).
Is it worth it? it's a tn panel and the bezel is huge i know but its still a 1440p/144hz/27 inch display with freesync. I would have bought it immediately but the fact that it's only a year warranty and the fact that I can't find any non-stock pictures of it on google or completed builds with it on pcpartpicker looks sketchy as hell.
I want something i can use for like 3 years at the very least which I dont think is unreasonable. Otherwise I would just get a 1080p shitter to replace in a year or two.
This user again. Didn't mean to vanish last thread, but had to take care of something that came up in real life. To continue where I loft off from that post, I checked the GPU fans to see if they were spinning, and they were, so I know the card isn't dead. I tried switching PCI-E slots, but no luck. Right now, I'm flushing my CMOS and seeing if that helps, but any other advice would be appreciated.
Evan Walker
>not buying monitors with at least 10g
It's like you really love your internal organs
Nathaniel Jones
Fan spinning doesn't mean the card isn't dead. Fan spinning simply means the card is powered properly. The best way to test it now is to use it on another mobo. If it still doesn't register then it is fucked.
Carson Morgan
Well the rig would be much more capable but the Studio is more minimalist and you're paying a lot for the form factor and touchscreen.
If you really like the Studio and it does what you want then by all means just get that. If not then a rig is obviously the best choice.
It's hard to say very much about the part list without knowing your intended uses for this system. I would say in general that you don't need the 960 PRO and would be fine with the cheaper 960 EVO at the same capacity. Buying a Platinum rated PSU is also kind of overkill but that depends on your electricity cost I suppose.
Noah Martin
Shit, that's not good then. Don't really have a spare motherboard lying around. I just tried again after putting the motherboard battery back in and it's still not detected.
I suppose it's not that big of a deal, it was time for an upgrade anyway, but prices are garbage at the moment so I'm less than thrilled.
Nathaniel Cooper
Can't RMA it?
Jaxon Moore
Can someone teach me what to look for in a monitor? To me all I see is length and aesthetic.
David Howard
Yeah I think the pros of this rig is >Custom Builded >customizable to my liking >easily can swap up parts >Sweet lighting effects >way more flexible
And for your question about getting a platinum psu around my area is about 10ยข kwh so that's why
As for the surface studio >Clean >minimalistic >Zero gravity hinge >4.5k led display >touchscreen
Both have pros but I leaning towards the surface Studio
Jordan Green
Not exactly a building question but it is related to my build. I have a phanteks p400s and it has the switch to change fan speeds, this was working previously but yesterday my fans just go full on and the switch won't change anything. I can't think of anything that's changed besides me attempting to OC my GPU which I've now reverted anyway. Any ideas?
Luke Howard
The graphics card? No, it's a 770 GTX I bought like five years back. If anything, I'd replace it, but it feels pointless to buy a cheap 1050 or something to hold me over, but after today I don't really have the $600 to drop on a 1080.
Ethan James
1080's are going around $400 and hell you can snag a used 980ti or Fury for around $300
Samuel Sanders
If this is my Afterburner panel under load, how would I go about OC it? What does core clock and memory clock mean? And if that's under load, what would be a respectable temp to OC to?
Hunter Baker
why?
Ryan Jones
Looking to sell my old mini itx system to fund a new one, but don't know how much its worth
Case: Bitfenix Prodigy CPU: i5 3570k @ 4.2ghz Mobo: ASUS P8Z77-I Deluxe Mini ITX Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H60 SE GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 670 DirectCU II RAM: G.Skill F3 16GB DDR3 SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 128gb HDD: Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 PSU: Seasonic S12II 520W Power Supply
What would this be worth if I were to sell it roughly?
Austin Cox
How are the fans power? Are there in header pins that support modulation?
Nicholas King
What are you looking for? A gaming monitor or a content production monitor? The two most important things are resolution and monitor type (TN vs. VA vs. IPS) but there are lot's of other smaller details.
Liam Perez
You can't You might be able to buy a card off newegg because they have different stock for international sales
Lucas Nelson
Yes they're all powered fine, the manual controller did work perfectly up until yesterday, now it's as if the switch isn't doing anything. I guess the switch might be broken, but I've only had the case 2 weeks.
Anthony Cruz
Try manually controlling the fans and see if that works. Like Speedfan.
Kevin Miller
I'd probably ask $500 for a local sale
Andrew Wright
Already tried that, doesn't make any difference they just run at a constant speed with no change , got me stumped.
Bentley Diaz
Try reading the case manual might be something you missed. Or else just RMA it.
Jace Perry
My new Rosewell Nighthawk arrived in the mail. My new MSI B350 Tomahawk arrived in the mail. (A day early!/Seven days late!)
Swap everything over to the new box, plug it all in. Start wiring up the box cables.
Flip the switch and press power. Nothing.
I was at least getting fans spinning in a different box with a different mobo; is there a way to test power on a mobo? I'm thinking I may have the box cables plugged in wrong (they're a little unclearly labeled, no +/-, just a triangle on one side and nothing on the other of the power/reset switch pin-sleeves. ) Should I be able to plug in the power button from the abandoned microATX (but proven to work) case? It's a beautiful big black monolith, I want to love it. But I currently can't even tell if the power supply is working. (It was before though.)
Samuel Kelly
Aren't there little led's on the mobo that should light up if its receiving power? That's how I figured out I frazzled my psu because I fucked up the voltage
Isaac Fisher
Ryzen? Ryzen first boots takes really fucking long. Just let it sit for a while. It will cycle on and off a few times.
Charles Adams
No lights, no fans spinning, nothing.
Should the fans and such be working when it happens? There's literally no sign of life in there no matter what I do to it.
Jacob Clark
thanks user
my guess was around 550-600 AUD, which is a little less than what you said assuming you're in USD
Nathaniel Johnson
It should spin up POST and then reboot. It will POST like 5 times before booting. No sign of life probably means you have a dead mobo. Check your connections. If you have a spare PSU, test it with that. Otherwise just RMA.
Hunter Sullivan
There is also a giant chasm of difference in performance between the two. Just the GPU difference alone is pretty huge with a 1080 Ti vs a 965m.
Brody Torres
Ok I don't think I missed anything, as I said it was working fine for the past 2 weeks and then just suddenly stopped, so I think it may be a faulty switch after all. Thanks for the help.
Angel Torres
There should be a power on switch on the board itself you can use.
Gavin Reyes
What about this >i5 4670 >ASRock B85M Pro4 >16Gb G.Skill Ripjawz >64GB SSD >2x2TB HDD >Fractal Define R4 Case >Antec 620w And a depending on which GPU I add >660, 1060 or RX570
Many thanks. I'm thinking 600/800/900
Wyatt Perry
I have yet to be able to POST. I think I had a janky thermaltake case that burnt out two motherboards (and came with a hell of a lot less content than the Rosewell monster has) and I've shifted to full ATX as a result.
I'm just trying to figure out whether it's plausible that the CASE's chips are DOA, and that's why the buttons aren't working to turn things on or power fans or whatever, or the MOBO is the dead component, and that's again, why nothing is working. I don't have spare AMD shit so it's hard to figure out a way to test.
Thomas Garcia
recommend any micro atx cases?
Asher Foster
Define C
Connor Williams
How do you transfer Windows 10 from an HDD to an SSD? Google gives like 10 different methods.
Parker Carter
Do you just want to move it across or actually install it onto the SSD? If the later download the ISO file and make an install USB/disc and run it, installing onto the SSD.
Cooper Taylor
Fresh install is the best way.
Tyler Davis
I re applied the thermal paste on my CPU today for the first time in like 3 years. I was idling before at like 41C and now im at like 37C. It used to be 34c. I used the pea method to apply, so will this eventually improve once the paste gets settled?
Oliver Rivera
Proper installation.
Sorry for sounding like a massive newfag, but download the iso file? Does that mean I'm not retaining the original license? Doesn't Windows 10 pro sell for like $200?
Luis King
What is your current license? OEM? Full?
Nicholas King
my pseudointellectual friend told me that i5 single cores are better than i7 quad cores for video games Is this try? Why if so.
Dominic Ortiz
Your friend is special. Be nice to special people.
Hudson Morgan
No, it's false. The architecture is the exact same, and i7 have more cache to work with so it's cores are either equally as strong or slightly strong if the workload benefits from having more cache
no bullying special people
Gavin Nelson
>no bullying special people Word. But do bully morons on the internet.
Charles Hernandez
How does this make you feel?
Wyatt Gomez
>slightly strong slightly stronger
Bentley Thomas
hot
Carson Watson
That is a really gay wallpaper user. You want some S U C C?
Zachary Anderson
>1.76 core voltage please provide your geolocation data to Google Hoome so it can call the fire department
Jackson Sanders
For a gaming PC, sacrificing on the graphics card in favor of a better CPU is not worthwhile. If downgrading from an i7 to an i5 means you can go from a x60 card to a x70 card, then downgrade the CPU. If you can afford i7 and a x70 card, then get both.
Within the same architecture, the only advantage i7s have over i5s is the hyperthreading. Core-to-core, they are the same.
The i7 will beat the i5 every time, but an i5/x70 system will beat an i7/x60 system in every game.
People kept recommending the i5 over the i7 because the price between them typically meant you could upgrade from a 960 to a 970 and still pay the same amount for the computer. The 970 is massively more powerful than the 960. This pricing is less true for the 10 series, which has a wider gap in price between the 1070 and the 1060.
Asher Watson
x70 & x60 mean gtx 1070 and gtx 1060 here
Dylan Stewart
>2 weeks from Vega >Still no leaks I think the RX is really going to suck boys
Isaiah Martinez
Not sure. (not mine, helping someone else). It was upgraded during the free upgrade period so whatever that is.
Leo Perez
If it is OEM and it goes onto a new system, the windows license will deactivate if there is too much hardware change (new mobo, new CPU) etc. OEM licenses are tied to the hardware they are first installed on.
If it is a full license, the key is transferable. No issues there.
Regardless, you will have to install W10 on the SSD to find out. If you need cheap keys, Kinguin/AllKeySite sell them from 5-25 dollars each but they are all OEM keys.
Any reason to not use the Pentium G4560 for a build for my parents (browsing and video watching)? Should I wait for Ryzen 3?
Also I'm torn between 1440p60IPS and 4K60IPS for the screen. Is 4K going to be the new 1080p for low end users in the next 10 years?
Carson Perry
they would be fine with a core 2 duo desu
Daniel Richardson
Just wait for 16k bro
David Jones
>$1439 >10 core
Dominic Sullivan
Ryzen 3 probably doesn't have an iGPU so you're better off getting the Pentium.
Luis King
forgot picture
Michael Jenkins
shut up you moron. the whole point of r3 ia that it has a apu (igpu)
Joshua Wilson
once Ive narroed my motherboard search down to boards that have the right cpu slot and desired pci slots, usbs ect what more is important? what causes price variance past the factors listed above?
Nicholas James
Do you have a source for that? It seems likely they'll just use the same die as the current ryzens so it won't have an iGPU.
Blake Rogers
Here is the roadmap, and Ryzen PRO doesn't have an iGPU (although the mobile probably will) So there's only Ryzen 3 left so have iGPU in there.
Easton Nelson
Transplanting my old-ass closet server into this slick little thing. Goddam it's cramped, I hope I can maintain any semblance of airflow. Any tips on cramped cable management besides just zipties everywhere?
Henry Edwards
>So there's only Ryzen 3 left so have iGPU in there. You're retarded. They already released Ryzen 3 PRO without an iGPU, why are you expecting the consumer Ryzen 3 to have one? The only confirmed Ryzen APU right now is called "Ryzen Mobile".
Grayson Carter
> (AUD) still a bit much
Adrian Lewis
>The only confirmed Ryzen APU right now is called "Ryzen Mobile". No you autistic fuck, they didn't include HDMI / VGA / DVI on almost every AM4 motherboard just for the fucking lulz Desktop APUs have been planned for 2018, and only Ryzen 3 is left for them to release their APUs
Nicholas Allen
I got a ASRock B250M for 50 bucks and a used i5 to go into it for a budget build with a 580 I already had. I gotta say this shit has been 100% stable and works flawlessly. Really impressed since its a budget mobo and a second hand CPU. Using it with a freesync gook ultra wide and for something as cheap as it was it feels like a real high end setup
Gavin Gonzalez
where is AMD's R3s?
the fucking G4560 is almost $100 now
Isaiah Reed
Why don't the Ryzen 3 PRO chips have an iGPU then? If Ryzen 3 was "Raven Ridge" it should have one, right?
Anthony King
Too bz saving the Vega at the moment
Jack Reed
august i bet
Liam Bailey
i thought the fucking APU versions were supposed to be out by then
They already have Bristol Ridge that uses AM4 and has an iGPU. There already is Ryzen 3 (PRO) without an iGPU. Why are you expecting them to sell APUs under the "Ryzen 3" name?
Grayson Roberts
the link shows an r3 gpu test.
Josiah Perry
Where the hell does it say "r3"? It most likely is the Raven Ridge chip, not "Ryzen 3".
Zachary Gonzalez
>$500 aud minimum for an RX580 MINEFAGS OUT
Aiden Stewart
Your setup is fire fireman
Hunter Powell
You are in luck Etherium is sub 200 now. Suicide incoming.
Chase Butler
Prepare for price drop. Start searching for refurbished GPUs within a week.
Austin Williams
If I'm just installing Windows 10 via ISO on a new drive without adding any other hardware, will it ask for a key?