Vega Liquid Cooled Tested - 440w Housefire

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>Radeon Vega Frontier Edition Liquid Cooled Comparable To a 180W GTX 1080 While Consuming 440W Power
>almost slower

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>clickbait websites still bench FE cards in gayms
Holy shit faggots would bench headless cards in gayms and say they are bad since
>no video outputs

AYYMD HOUSEFIRES

Thank you Nvidia!

Reality is that no driver in world will take this arch to the levels of the 1080ti sadly!

The insane power draw is just the shit lining of it all.

>Reality is that no driver in world will take this arch to the levels of the 1080ti sadly!
Hoo boy you're in for a surprise.

>comparable to a 1080 in GAMING at 440w to 180w
The city of AMD

Quadro are good in gayming. Not an argument.

>Quadro are good in gayming. Not an argument.
That was not the point you doofus.

Getting the power efficiency to same levels as well?
Do tell me more!

Ha, now we know why vega took so long. They were unable to meet expected performance requirments and we're forced to up the voltage to the extreme resulting in massive power draw and the need for this.

>Getting the power efficiency to same levels as well?
Oh boy, do you know how GPUs work?

The suprise that amd cannot compete with 13 month old nvidia tech?

2 blocks? is it dual chip?

No, for even bigger suprise.
It happened once before.
No, it's overprovisioned.

No one cares about power draw. The difference between 200w and 400w draw is Fucking nothing even if run 24/7/365

What? Do you know how GPUs work?

Most people dont care about power, i understand that. Problem is all that power generates heat, alot of it. No one wants heat in their system having to use larger and larger coolers for it all.

No, it's not even about power draw.
FE has disabled AVFS and power gating.

Fuck Raja! Gib Keller back!

in fairness that is peak power draw and the 1080/ti can pull north of 300w

Keller has nothing to do with GPUs and pajeet was lead architect of like every kickass radeon before GCN.

Why though? Seems stupid to disable these things that the "prosumer" also would like to have, or even more so than the gamer wwho often gives no shits about power draw and loud coolers!

Prosumers need stability and not bleeding-edge crashing-every-5-minutes driver stack for new uarch.
Take a wild guess what they did to FE.

No the second "block" further back is actually a reservoir for maintaining stable water flow.

Load the chip with oh about 50% more power than it actually needs and then disable most things that could make it better than their last top dollar arch!

1080 =/= 1080ti

>Load the chip with oh about 50% more power than it actually needs and then disable most things that could make it better than their last top dollar arch!
Exactly!
It's a glorified Instinct demo, they even lanuched ROCm 1.6 a day after FE launch.

100w here and 100w there and pretty soon you could have powered a couple of lightbulbs.

Well just about 3 weeks until we know, just dont blow it out of proportion the gains it might have!

Actually they're going to demo RX (yes, RX, which hopefully means their internal branch drivers instead of shit bundled with FE) tomorrow in Budapest.
But i can almost feel the NDAs.

Ayyy, and the AMDrone thinks the RX version will draw less power and will beat the 1070 or maybe the 1080 non ti. Kek

Vega is DOA

>putting a i9 7900X with a Vega Frontier

>not dual 8180
Pleb.
Also V100 is going to be even funnier if you want $20k portable nuclear holocaust.

It will be Doom again with no fps counter i swear!

8180 has soldered heatspreader at least

Maybe they'll say something about
>muh primitive shaders

Nah, dual 8180 + 5x Tesla V100.

Nope, we will get only marketing mumbo jumbo for sure.

Who knows.
Also who cares no one buys Radeon anyway.

it will beat the 1080. but no denying amd fucked up.

they need to stop reinventing useless shit and just focus on brute force like nvidia does.

>but no denying amd fucked up.
?
>reinventing useless shit
?

now give the specviewperf benchmarks

Weird, huh?

BUT MUH MEME USELESS MEMORY

>useless
>the only JEDEC certified TSV memory
?

and people think that it isn't just a serious lack of proper gaming drivers

>and people think that it isn't just a serious lack of proper gaming drivers
By "people" do you mean tech illiterate Sup Forumsedditors?
Because it took like two days for B3D forumites to figure out why FE underperforms in gayms.

Oh great, and what kind of competitive advantage does that completely useful certification give it over nvidia's offerings?

And still slower than quadro p2000, p5000 and p6000...

Vega is doa

MOAR ALUs (or moar something else) in the ~same die size compared to nVidia's offerings.
Quadros use certified drivers with software profiles.
FE drives it on pure compute.
You're clueless.

yeah, I forgot the ""

>MOAR ALUs (or moar something else) in the ~same die size compared to nVidia's offerings.

And?

So you're clueless.

Man what the fuck happened to Sup Forums?
80% of posters are dumber than average forumite.
Especially when it comes to consumer tech.

>FE drives it on pure compute.
What is Firepro? What is the Instinct?

>comparing a semi-professional gpu to one with real certified drivers and a fuckton of other features
amd.com/Documents/Radeon-Pro-SSG-Technical-Brief.pdf

>y-you just d-don't understand!

Oh yes, this is that time when the amd shill pretends that the amd turd has some special magical thing, even though said special snowflake feature doesn't offset how it's hilarious behind anything from competition.

Performance, shill, where is it?

More power = more expensive PSU, and usually more heat.

Vega FE =/= WX Vega. WX will use certified drivers and will probably cost 3-4 times more than FE.
Instincts are headless ML/HPC cards.
I think you should go back to Sup Forums.

they like to back their own preferred brands and keep making excuses for doing so, then they spread FUD about things they don't like

>I think you should go back to Sup Forums.

I think you should revise your damage controlling tactics because it's not useful to convince anyone. At the end of the day, vega is still a complete housefire pulling almost 3 times as much power than nvidia's offerings while offering performance on par with a 1 and a half year product.

Got any more magic fancy buzzwords to try to shift the focus away from that? Maybe you could throw "supercharged" or something here and there?

user please go back to Sup Forums.
You're completely clueless even about consumer tech.
No i mean you can shill/shitpost WHILE having a clue about the things you're talking about.

>HBM
>not completely and utterly useless
Yeah, Fury has totally shown us how great HBM is by making it perform like a piece of shit amirite

So Vega FE is a useless card?

>one product defines performance of entire standard
?
No if you want some FP16 for cheap for home ML research stantion.

No user, you don't understand! It's not useless at all, it's really special. You just cannot measure its power or performance on anything! Only the truly smart can see! You're not dumb, are you?!

You need to go back.

>one product defines performance of entire standard
For a guy throwing "clueless" around like candy because you can't actually address any of the points raised, you sure do seem clueless yourself about the fact that bandwidth isn't a problem in the current market.

HBM is not only about bandwith you clueless moron.

>If people want to do anything besides gaming they should spend $2.5k+ on a gpu even if they don't need certified drivers!!

Yeah it's also about drawing even more power than gddr5 to make this piece of garbage draw even more energy. We got that.

So you're clueless.

There's no such thing as a "gaming GPU" you retard, that was just damage control from AMD for the fact that they released FE with no software support. Silicon is largely silicon. Titans and Quadros run games fine, even Radeon Pro's and FirePro's run games fine. Saying "B-but it's not for gaming!" is pure damage control.

>$12,000 graphics card can play csgo and Skyrim at max

Wow truly a nice card

>silicon is the only component of GPU
Fuck me why CPUs are not ded yet?

Here. Let me sum this up for you.

Oh look, GraphWorks!
So you're still clueless.

>No one cares about power draw

>Skylake-X pulls 300W
>"Holy kek what a housefire!"
>Vega pulls 400W
>"Who cares about power draw, what are you too poor to afford a 1000W PSU?"

YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND
FUCKING DELETE THIS U R CLUELESS

Put those benches in 1440p/144Hz gaming and Vega will have 1070 performance.

It's literally shilling for 4K gaming when the card can't support 60 fps in majority of titles just like 1080 due to the fact that at higher resolutions performance dips take massive diminishing returns so something like a RX 480 will be only 5 fps behind 1080 when both games can't run a game at 4K. In every benchmark out there I could find for Vega in 1440p the card has performance of a stock 1070.

It's summer vacation for most children right now. Wouldn't ve surprised if half the posters here were 13.

Come back in autumn if it bothers you that much. By then they'll migrate over to 9gag because they won't have the willingness to read more than 1 sentence.

>Wouldn't ve surprised if half the posters here were 13.
Is this place really THAT popular to attract 13 y.o's?

Vega FE is consumer tech, it doesn't have certified drivers. It's has slightly more features than the Titan, which Nvidia has gimped over the years to prevent cannibalization of Quadro sales. But it's still a complete disaster of a launch.

>But it's still a complete disaster of a launch.
It meets their Q2 launch date.
They couldn't care less.

Sup Forums? most probably, why do you think Sup Forums gets more traffic at times than even Sup Forums?

AMD shills have to be suicidal right now. Vega has its moments where it drops below 1070 performance.

So Vega is the best gayming card, not the best compute card, not the best pro aps card, no ECC memory, not good drivers support, not power efficient.

What is the point of this meme card????????? The F-35 of the GPU world?

You mean FE?
It allows you to get 25tflops FP16 for $1k.

Not the best gayming card*

Then why does Sup Forums shill so hard for AMD when they're perfectly willing to release a card with no drivers just to meet a deadline? What about RTG is actually worth getting excited about? The fact that it takes a year to optimize their drivers for gaming? The fact that their products are consistently delayed? The fact that their power draw is consistently higher than Nvidia's? What about AMD's graphics division attracts such zealotry out of Sup Forums? Is it really just about "muh competition" or something more?

Only during the summers. r3dditors and 9gaggers toxic waste will spill over into Sup Forums and Sup Forums and then a few will wander onto other boards such as Sup Forums. Though once mommy keep checking in to make sure they did their homework and their friends keep sharing dead stale memes with them they slowly start to leave Sup Forums until the next summer starts.

Honestly wish more people would tripfag here, at least then we'd know they're most likely not children because using a trip is rocket science to them.

FUCK

I bet if they overclocked the 1070, it could beat this piece of trash on its own. AMD cards have FUCKALL oc headroom anyway, specially when you're already a 440w fire hazard that needs to be water cooled so it doesn't explode.

Don't worry, when you need to get performance out of it, a huge text disclaimer will appear on your screen where Rajesh Pajeet explains to you that you simply don't understand.

>Then why does Sup Forums shill so hard for AMD when they're perfectly willing to release a card with no drivers just to meet a deadline?
Better than delaying hardware two quarters.
>What about RTG is actually worth getting excited about?
It's basically old ATi.
>The fact that their products are consistently delayed?
That happens only to RTG?
>The fact that their power draw is consistently higher than Nvidia's?
Because killling scheduling to save 10-15watts is totally worth it.

To be fair FE is supposed to be a bridge gap between gayms and other gpu processing, rendering.

It's literally muh competition. It's the absolute definition of Sup Forums's freetards who sacrifice intuition, performance or own convenience due to socialist beliefs about customer practices, government or free market.
You can spot an AMD shill when reviews don't cover overclocking against overclocked competition. That's the same reason why I couldn't find a single benchmark of OCed 970 against OCed RX 480.

Yes, this thread has at least one Sup Forumstard.
It's definetly summer since people here had several civil Vega-related threads in spring.

>What about AMD's graphics division attracts such zealotry out of Sup Forums? Is it really just about "muh competition" or something more?

I've narrowed it down to this place being flooded with contrarians. There is a certain kind of personality where the individual suffers from low self-esteem and usually sides with the "underdog" side of all things because they see themselves as the underdog.

>Summer meme
Sup Forums and Sup Forums were, are and always will be shit. Don't kid yourself. Implying it was any better with the Ryzen release which was nowhere near summer and its endless wave of shitposters on both fronts. Internet clarity and lack of privacy brings in circle jerks and hive mind thinking. Anonymity brings in edgy retards who enjoy the fun of not being accounted for anything you say.

>You can spot an AMD shill when reviews don't cover overclocking against overclocked competition. That's the same reason why I couldn't find a single benchmark of OCed 970 against OCed RX 480.

Hit the nail on its knee. It was the same shit back then when they were shilling the 390 POS. The 970 smokes this shit when you compare OC vs OC, despite the 970 consuming way less power, because amd cards have little to no OC headroom.