Networking with RPi

Hello Sup Forums I'm a shitty meme tier coder who wants to learn the fundamentals of computer networking.
I plan on buying a cheap unmanaged switch and a raspberry pi to get me started.(I have a laptoop)
Is this alright? Should I get a managed switch?

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No, just sell the Pi, your laptop and get a mac.

Before you get a rack and stuff it with hardware, just spin up a half dozen VMs. Any hypervisor will let you simulate multiple machines with several interfaces each, and connect them up in various ways.

But I want something physical to touch and feel.

You have your dick for that.

they want everything to be virtual, like their waifu.

Seriously though is this an alrighty idea?

> plug a pi and a laptop into one switch
> learn networking

Nigger, it's the same thing as having two devices on the same WiFi. Literally everyone does this. There's nothing to learn or interact with.

Go rent a VPS and make your own email or something if you want to know how networking works.

This is how RPifags actually network

Isn't this actually a fun thing to learn, apart from the weeb nonsense?

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Op, you'd learn MUCH more if you download Packet tracer and simulate the shit out of it

Also, download Odom's CCNA book and Lammle's CCNA book and just repeat everything from it in Packet tracer

do NOT buy equipment until you know a thing or two, because everything cheap will be missing something and you'd just waste your money

OP you here?

hola this, doing my ccna soon. it's great

>fun

get the fuck of Sup Forums

>not having fun while breaking Nth VM clone and just cloning some more from a parent VM to play around

>learn the fundamentals of computer networking.
>I plan on buying a cheap unmanaged switch
looooooooooool

Yap

What are you going to do?

Ayy thanks senpai

I don't know anything about it senpai, so I'll start with
Since it won't cost me any money (poorfag lol)
After I get to some speed I see

>not having fun playing vidya with your brand new ryzen CPU and GPU

I also like wires so I think I'll buy one Ethernet cable, just for the feel of networking

I wrote that post

First read Lammle's book, do packet tracer shit (dl latest packet tracer and just sign up for their bullshit, you get full program without needing to crack it), then read Odom's book

Also you can download shitload of Comptia's Network+ cert guides and Bulldog's CCNA Udemy course

With all that you will learn a lot about networking and after all, you can pass CCNA or Net+ (ccna is much more valued)

Also, you can download CBT Nuggets Installing Network Cabling and Devices course and see how to do it in real life

Everything i mentioned is easily findable on internet (i have it on my pc right now)

Pirate PacketTracer and go through this

ciscoiseasy.blogspot.com

Wow thank you so much man

No problem

If you like videos more than books, i recommend CBT Nuggets CCNA series, there are also ITPRO ccna series and i think Pluralsight

t. self taught ccna without job because of shitty 3rd world country

Quick question what's the cheapest way to connect my neighbor's computer to mine over wire? She stays home all day because of some disease and i am neet, so I said I'll show her how to play counter strike 1.6
Her mum said no sex so inb4 any autism

There is no need to pirate PT.

do it anyway just to shit on mr. cisco

>Quick question what's the cheapest way to connect my neighbor's computer to mine over wire?

How far is the pc?

Cheapest way is definitely wifi (free lol)

If you can you could connect her cat5e (that's ethernet) cable to your router (even the shittiest routers have like 4 ports)

This

Our windows are about 10 feet apart, the laptops could be like 3,4 feet from the windows
All totalling, nothing more than 20 feet

ethernet cable to the same router

you can create Homegroup in windows if you want to share porn

how about learning some theory first?

Yap going to do that first

Get a few pi's and a hub, not even a switch, so you can do packet sniffing analysis.

set up a bunch of static IP's on a 10.0.0.0\24 and go to town.

dude, cisco 2950 24ports is like $20, nobody uses hubs

Plus he should learn some theory first

It's not about the price you dumb faggot. It's about starting a learning lab using the simplest possible networking component so that he can actually learn about the fundamentals of the actual protocols involved without having some switch get in the way of actually learning about shit.

Goal is to get most bang for the buck and not overcrowd house with useless shit like hubs

Literally everything he can learn with hubs can be done with switches, plus tons more

>cont.
Anyone can read RFCs or some faggot Cisco textbook, but setting up a web server on one pi and using lynx from another while sniffing wireshark from the laptop is going to be better than whatever "theory" you are talking about.

>overcrowd the house
>a 4 port hub is the size of a pack of cigarettes

Fuck off Cisco shill.

I hate cisco first of all but i admit they have the biggest market share

And yes, not everyone lives in USA and has infinite money and space

>not everyone has infinite money and space
>suggesting garbage obsolete shit cisco 2950
Fuck off.

Ok, you are one of those guys, goodbye mate

>I'm a shill for Cisco trying to sell overpriced garbage to newbies when a $5 hub will do the job better and now I'm getting real buttmad about being called out for my shilling.

setting up a virtual network environment with linux network namespaces could also be interesting, but I'd say that's a little more advanced

Nigga download netkit, it's literally made for this and it's free

>netkit

Interesting, is it just a simulator, or does it do something more?

>Wants to learn networking
>Unmanaged hardware
Yeah no

Why would a hub be preferable to a switch?

No reason whatsoever

It's a distro with that lets you whip up vm's and use them as router/switches/vlans
We used it on our college intro to networks course and it was pretty good

gns3 is great if you want to play around with routing, but it sucks when it comes to switches.

oh god gns3....i really wanted to like it but it did everything to piss me off, hard

>full retard

When you really want to learn something, you start with the simplest cases and build up from there.

Hubs just dumbly broadcast every bit to every port. Switches try to be clever and route things based on MAC addresses.

You want to learn on a hub so that you can actually sniff packets and learn about how networking works instead of being in the corporate trap of just learning to be a Cisco certified technician.

it pissed me off quite a few times too, but it was great for configuring bigger scale BGP, OSPF, etc. on real IOSes

it doesn't suck, you just shove a switching module into a router, turn off routing, and use slightly different commands
like switchport-vlan instead of vlan

or, with a managed switch, you set up port mirroring
there is no reason to learn hubs because hubs are not in use

fucking idiot, nobody uses hubs in real life and switches also broadcast frames when they need, at least with switches you can sniff both unicast frames and broadcast frames

I wanted to try private vlans. it didn't work on IOLs and routers don't support them as far as I'm aware. you could use a router for the basic stuff, but a switch is a switch.

>making beginner learning more complicated and expensive and upselling that managed switch

You don't "learn hubs" you fucking retard.

You learn about networking protocols using a learning lab, and you start from first principles to become a true patrican, not shit-tier learning about how to become a NOC pleb.

Work your way through these OP.
wiki.netkit.org/index.php/Labs_Official

c3275 with nm-16esw and 16mb pcmcia disk0 can do almost all switching functions
though real equipment is still better so you can see broadcast storms in real time and watch the indicator led rave

whatevs idiot

>whatevs idiot
says the NOC pleb trying to get people to join them in their hell.

ain't my career, i just do installs on the side

what do you do for a living, mr. go buy a hub?

I might as well install gns3 again. haven't done networking in a while.

newest version is sweet, gns3 even has multiplayer mode now so you can simulate the other side of a leased line and someone that isn't you plopping down the equipment

30€ router with openwrt is basicly a managed switch

>just sell the toy, your laptop and get another big ol' gimped laptop

>just sell the toy, your laptop and get a more expensive and more useless toy
ftfy

That's actually none of your god-damn business.

Actually even better, start by wiring Ethernet cables directly into a breadboard. If you are working with short runs, you shouldn't even need to worry about the signal amplification that a hub will give you.

You want to learn about networking grab packet tracer and start fucking shit up.
Then get a managed switch and an old computer with PFSense and then configure stuf.

whatevs idiot

>I'm mad that some user is messing with my shilling plans!!!!11!!!!

whatevs idiot

Actually I'm very involved and aware of the political subtext in this thread and am standing up against corporate capitalism by suggesting that people learn computer networking concepts from a radical perspective rather than choking on Cisco's cock.

> and am standing up against corporate capitalism by
being unemployed

cisco isn't the only switch seller out there, idiot

This

Without revealing too much about my identity, actually right now, I have two jobs that are both career-oriented.

sure

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OP, if you really want to go into details, and outside any vendor, you can download Kurose Networking book, and even more detailed Tanenbaum Networking book

Jesus it is a newfag invasion. Anyone else noticing all the new tripcodes and posts like these that reek of underage newfaggotry?

>switch
>route

...with two logical ports and shitty throughput.

You can buy actual 8 port managed switches for 30 burger bucks now.

Not OP but I have the same idea. Thanks for this.

Umm guys OP here, I just bought 4 Ethernet cables of about 5 feet each, I need to connect them to make one cable of 20 feet. What do I use?
Also can I crimp by hand, I don't have the crimping tool.

You don't. Buy another cable. Shits are like $3 on Monoprice.