My grandpa fought WITH you guys in vietnam. Im not bad guy

My grandpa fought WITH you guys in vietnam. Im not bad guy.

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>destroying Vietnam for no reason (and still managing to lose the war)
>not bad guy

at the time there were 2 vietnams, hard to believe but true

SOME

you fought there too.

FOLKS

kim u make alot of post today

whats wrong kim?

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH REMOVE VIETS
MAKE FRENCH INDOCHINA GREAT AGAIN
INVADE ONE OR TWO CHINESE CITIES
SAVE PUPPIES AND KITTIES

We didn't rape and massacre innocent villagers though.

>American """"""""""""justifications"""""""""""

whats the fun in that.

>grandpa
>vietnam
what the fuck

SOME FOLKS OF OLD

I hope red orchestra vietnam plays the song

this, my dad was in his early 20s when nam was at its peak

then you are too old for this site tbqh senpai.

im 20... my dad had me old

You Korean's grandfathers fought with our grandfathers against China and America.
Korean soldiers were called “Bandu”by Chinese soldiers and were scared.

Rapists are not soldiers.

Don't think they are Korean, maybe they are Japanese without knowing it.

IT AIN'T ME
IT AIN'T ME
I AIN'T NO SENATOR'S SON

Know some Australians will shitpost if I post in this thread.
The guy up there too stupid to know that so have to reply him.

Did "it ain't me" start playing ?

I SEE A RED DOOR AND I WANT IT PAINTED BLACK
NO COLOURS ANYMORE, I WANT IT TO TURN BLACK

>not being a pacifist

>against china and america
NK sent 600 men, south a few thousand. They fought on seperate sides, sk vs china, soviet, and nva/vc, nk vs america, australia and sv

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this triggers the veit cong !

desu South Vietnam would have been a much more successful than North Vietnam in the long run

Just look at North Korea/South Korea

did they actually lose the war?

Can't be called a war with no proper declaration of war. But with how their objectives were met then yes, they kinda win the battles but lost the war.

They lose the war, but also win in another way since ironically the North Vietnam dislike Chinese than South Vietnam, which just after the war's end they start to kick the Chinese out of the country and cause bad relationship which the country later become US enemy.
They let US influence and follow US.

who cares, serves them right for bucking America. let them stew in their own shit

SOME FOLKS ARE BORN
MADE TO WAVE THE FLAG
OO~OOH THAT RED WHITE AND BLUE

We need to forget about the war and remember that a strong Vietnam is a bulwark against Chinese hegemony.

Or the country gonna filled with Chinese and become more influential by China since the South Vietnamese never have any good politics to stop Chinese expand in the country.
Unlike North Vietnam just after the war's end they cut relationship which china in exchange kick Chinese out and make themselves complete isolation.
Worth it maybe.

BUT WHEN THE BAND PLAYS HA~IL TO THE CHIEF
OO~OOH THEY POINT THE CANNON AT YOU

how would chinese flood into a US-backed independant vietnam with US military bases camped everywhere within it? your waters would be secured, your territory secured, your infrastructure boosted by US dollars, everything if the US won.

Though immigrant their strongest way of influence.
Before Saigon fall, the Chinese already controls lots of economic which probably even attract more Chinese immigrant if the South Vietnamese win.
At the Fall of Saigon, they control more than 90% Saigon economic because the capitalist Vietnamese and Westerner runs away and they just seize it, think that North Vietnam would not do anything to them with China backed.
With democracy, South Vietnam can't freely kick those chinese out unlike North Vietnam.