If you want help: >Assemble your parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >State the budget for your build (and country if not the USA) >List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate >Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs? How to assemble a PC, select components & more (kind of outdated) wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC
CPUs: No i5 unless discounted >R3 1200 - Budget builds (R5 1400 - Cheapest quad core you can get (Ryzen 3 soon) >R5 1500x - Good but up to 1600 if you can >R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage; 1600x if you want higher stock clocks >i7 7700k - Only for 144hz >R7/Used Xeon/Threadripper - Compute/Multitask/VM/mixed use; Not for just gaming
GPUs: Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser >Integrated CPU Graphics - Desktop stuff and very light games >GTX 1050(Ti) - Lower end budget cards, drop settings on newer games, RX560 beaten by both >RX570 - 1080p@60~hz maxed, running most maxed older games at 100~Hz >RX580 and GTX1060 6GB - 1080p@80hz maxed, 1440p@60hz at lower settings; RX580 better in newer games >GTX 1070 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high >GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz / 1440p@60hz maxed, 4k@60hz in a few games; Probably the highest end card you need for 1080p/1440p >GTX 1080Ti - 1440p@144hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games
RAM: >Check your Mobo QVL before buying any RAM >Ryzen CPUs benefits a lot from high speed RAM
General: ALWAYS LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS! Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor. The Ryzen lineup comes with surprisingly good stock coolers. consider using them over any
Using the Sugo SG13 case (going for something small)
The motherboard is the ITX version but its not listed on pcpartpicker
Is it worth going to a 1070?
Noah Lee
>autosaging it's called BUMP LIMIT.
Mason Carter
For just 1920x1080 gaming probably not unless you can get a deal on one. Or you know you want to play some game that needs a 1070 to play on maximum quality. All the prices are still a bit fucked up due to crypto mining.
Colton Barnes
Kek Llurk moar OP, you faggot
Blake Young
Questionable choice in RAM.
Asher Cook
Thanks
What would you recommend?
Hudson James
Is using old server crap a good idea?
Hudson Howard
>R3 1200 - Budget builds (R5 1400 - Cheapest quad core you can get (Ryzen 3 soon) You guys didn't even try did you?
Ian Long
No time to be accurate when you're racing to create the new thread to get your shilling in the OP.
Help I have 2×4Gb 3000mhz lpx vengeance ram dual channel and i want to upgrade. If i add 2×8Gb 3000mhz lpx vengeance ram dual channel? Looking at the mobo (pic related) the 4 ram slots are in 2 colors which means i can only run dual channel can these two dual channels have different kits?
William Reyes
You can run different sized kits in separate channels. I run a kingston 2x8 and a corsair 2x2 and dual channel still works
Thomas Ross
Are both at same speed?
Gabriel Sanchez
Just bought a 7700k for 200 bucks through my work discount.
What LGA 1151 motherboard should I look at?
Charles Moore
Hit me up with that i7 7700k please. Email is in name field.
Leo Stewart
>Kingston - HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel Headset
Adam Howard
Which one should I get? Seems like they have pretty similar specs. Basically, which is best value? (and has the least chance of being DOA?)
Ryder Myers
yeah the kingston is at 1333mhz, the corsairs can run at 1600mhz with an XMP profile but there not stable so both kits are at 1333mhz.
Aiden Morales
need a budget ryzen mobo I am curently looking at Asus Prime B350M-A
Juan Peterson
>ASUS they have shit customer service >Gigabyte shit if you dislike offset overclocking >MSI I have no idea, no personal experiences >Biostar, asrock Heard stories, not good ones
Easton Gomez
>they fell for it
Julian Kelly
it's the same thing
Jace Sullivan
i've got a viii maximus. what i like about it
>lots of configuration between sound/CPU/RAM/GPU/etc. entirely too much for a noob like me >reflash without a CPU >no GPU sag >built for a powerhouse of a computer. easy overclock for RAM and CPU. easy to configure fans, etc.
If you're in to the LED craze, the Maximus boards also have Aura which can control the LEDs right off of the board, just another plus.
does anyone else build put together parts lists for fun? just to think of what could be built?
i built my current PC with the best parts available (at the time) and now I'd like to build something with a theme of sorts
Austin Baker
The real themeing coming from decorating your PC.
Grayson Foster
Eh, I only caught a few. No, seriously. I've been waiting for months for this shit, and see what I got? A fucking card error and most of us are having the same issue. Hope Jewtel will fix this asap or else I'm going to burn their headquarters down with all of my rage.
Carter Thompson
i'm not the artsy type. if anything i'd put together some parts that had similar colors
Hunter Price
Ok why dont you actually tell me how to improve it instead of >le memes xdddd
Leo Sanchez
wtf what website is that?
Adam Allen
Just send them some i9s :^)
Ethan Young
It's oblivously a joke build, nobody is going to waste their time with it.
Owen Barnes
Well what is a better headset for around $100?
Lucas Evans
>Tfw my purchase went through no issues first time
Intel retail edge, for employees of electronic stores. I work at Bestbuy and that's part of it but there's other stores that are eligible for it.
And yes working for Bestbuy sucks major cock.
Brandon Hill
Was Max autistic?
Dominic King
Given their history of forcing consumers to buy worse performing but more expensive chips, anti-competition behaviour/practices, and known bribery. How the fuck can anyone support Intel?
Jason Roberts
1. you're using a bunch of parts that aren't completely justified in their cost.
2. that motherboard is too big. ATX at most
3. change the M.2 to a 500gb. 1tb is actually unnecessary because the SSD is best for running boot and programs. Media should run off of an HDD
4. you only need a 750w power supply
5. Intel chips don't benefit from stupid high end RAM like the
I changed the motherboard, the RAM, the PSU, and the SSD and you save a lot of cash.
Also /pcbg/ doesn't take too well to flashy builds with LEDs and RGB whatever. So keep that in mind.
David Stewart
Anything that doesn't have these meme words: >gaming >7.1 >Beats >Bose
Jayden Johnson
Its not a joke, i just thought that build was the best performance I could get in terms of gaming. Why dont you actually tell me what i need for the best performance
Ethan Gomez
Probably, he wouldn't say shit, and would get upset at little things.
Eli Smith
ok ya. nice delio sonny enjoy that new cpoo
Sebastian Thompson
what you need for best gaming performance is
1. a 7700k 2. a 1080ti (in SLI if possible) 3. a 1440p 144hz or 1080p 240hz monitor 4. a laser mouse with comfortable ergonomics 5. a razer orbweaver
okay that last one is arguable but the rest are pretty set in stone
Liam Mitchell
It just werks.
William Long
>240hz ok thats getting a bit ridiculous now
Liam Roberts
What would be the ideal amount of RAM for a media server? I've heard that FreeNAS/zfs would require at least a gig per TB. I plan for now having at least 32TB. But, I also see Synology prebuilts using 8GB with max caps of 150TB. Does it just depend on the software I use? Again it'd just be a box streaming shit via ethernet to a Kodi box.
Elijah Hughes
nigga why would I spend 3 grand on all that shit that's overkill.
Jaxson Wilson
hey it works for those CS:GO guys
Sebastian Richardson
only because of their monopoly. Intel doesn't innovate and has no intention of ever properly competing. I'll spend my money elsewhere.
Nathan Butler
nigga that dude said he wanted the best in gaming performance
read the replies blackskin
Alexander Anderson
You don't need shitload of RAM just to stream
Nicholas Garcia
That's the best performing equipment *for gaming* on the market If you want the best bang for the buck on gaming:
>AMD Ryzen 5 1600 CPU' >AM4 platform B350 motherboard with good VRMs >AMD RX 580 *note this is only recommended if at MSRP. Fucking miners have ruined the current market* >1080p 120 hz monitor >Logitech G403 >Corsair K68
Jace Ortiz
Can you guys talk me out of this ? I already ordered a 144hz monitor and would feel its wasted if I dont get a 7700k. I only game anyway pcpartpicker.com/list/YbWqzM
James Smith
WHY THE FUCK DOESNT RYZEN 3 HAVE A GPU? twll me, is it actually good? better than i3, pentium etc?
Evan Sullivan
what games? Ryzen can meet 144 Hz on a number of games.
Austin Rodriguez
Im pretty sure that ill need 1tb of storage for games, but thanks for the advice. So if I get faster ram above ddr4 3000 it wont make a difference with an i7 7700k?
Jonathan Rogers
more like CS:FAGOS
Jordan Cook
>WHY THE FUCK DOESNT RYZEN 3 HAVE A GPU? Because that's the territory of the upcoming Zen-based Raven Ridge APUs. >tell me, is it actually good? better than i3, pentium etc? stock, it puts up a good fight. But unlike the i3 and Pentium competition, the R3 can be overclocked. And when overclocked, performance is closer to an i5 than an i3.
Jason Thomas
>playing video game >decide I want an upgrade in preformance >upgrade video card >cpu is now bottlenecking
I still have ddr3 ram so I'm kinda fucked for upgrading. I can afford a cpu+mobo but getting new ram pushes me over budget. Not to mention my gpu upgrade did squat so it was essentially money wasted. It helped with older games but turns out my main game is mostly cpu intensive. Glad I refunded that order though
Austin Morris
>So if I get faster ram above ddr4 3000 it wont make a difference with an i7 7700k? correct. It makes a HUGE difference on AMD Ryzen CPUs, but not on Intel CPUs. Different architectures
Caleb Howard
>bought mobo and cpu that can't overclock >bought 3.5gb 970 card >bought 1080 60Hz monitor heh... I, uh... well...
Leo Nguyen
sell your old GPU and put the money towards new DDR4 ram.
Owen Ramirez
i dont get it though, i need cpu power, not gpu which means if i wanted ryzen id need another investment (so the price ends up being more). and raven ridge is looking to be shit tier hyper budget stuff.
Ryan Walker
Raven Ridge hasn't released yet user. They haven't even announced a release date. Just grab a GTX 1030 or an RX 550 2GB on the cheap them.
Jordan Clark
Is there really a market for a radeon hd7870? Where am I supposed to sell it even, ebay?
Austin Thomas
Well DOOM and Prey,probably other new releases too
Cooper Clark
sell it on Craigslist or ebay. There's always a market for used parts. current ebay prices show it goes for $50 to $100, depending on which one, so you should be able to get new DDR4 ram for that price.
Michael Carter
A Ryzen 5 1600 can peg the 200 FPS limiter in Doom. I'll assume similar for Prey. They'revery well optimized titles
Aaron Perez
is ryzen 3 worth it in Australia? the 1200 is $150 aud
Cameron Nguyen
No. 1600 or get the pentium. The ones in the caught in the middle is pretty shit.
I've got an old Radeon X800 GTO. Think this'll do for 2017 gaming?
Ryan Perez
no.
Joseph Long
I live in a rural area so craiglist is out of the question, I guess I might try ebay. My original plan was to use my old parts to build my gf a computer so I can get her into gaming, but I'd rather have a good rig for myself.
I guess my next question if anyone cares, is there a worthwhile budget upgrade from an overclocked i5 3570k? Or should I just shell out the ~$300+ for a decent cpu/mobo combo. I don't care about anything above 1080p and 60fps currently, so I don't think I need top of the line products
Lincoln Fisher
If I crossfired it with a Radeon HD 5770, could it do some damage?
Josiah Murphy
Alright thanks user, I actually already have a 1700x build ready. I just can't decide.
Hudson Allen
no
Jeremiah Martinez
pcpartpicker.com/list/Cvz4f8 This is my first time building pc, i don't have any experience so I'm keeping the parts cheap Any suggestions will be helpful
Leo James
Bad power supply. Don't need to buy windows. Pirate it, faggot. The chinese do.
Ryder Miller
1) You don't need that Hyper 212. Stock cooler runs fine 2) 8GB RAM is enough
Elijah Kelly
I am going to pirate it, i just put it there to complete the build
Camden Reyes
A few questions. 1: Do you plan to upgrade later on? 2: If so, does upgrading while keeping the same motherboard and memory matter to you? 3: What games do you plan to play? 4: Do you want the best bang for the buck, or the cheapest usable for gaming?
