If you want help: >Assemble your parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >State the budget for your build (and country if not the USA) >List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate >Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs? How to assemble a PC, select components & more (kind of outdated) wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC
CPUs: No i5 unless discounted >R3 1200 - Budget builds (R3 1300x - Good stop-gap between the 1500x and the 1200, only get a 1400 if you absolutely need multithreading >R5 1500x - Good but up to 1600 if you can >R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage; 1600x if you want higher stock clocks >i7 7700k - Only for 144hz >R7/Used Xeon/Threadripper - Compute/Multitask/VM/mixed use; Not for just gaming
GPUs: Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser >Integrated CPU Graphics - Desktop stuff and very light games >GTX 1050(Ti) - Lower end budget cards, drop settings on newer games, RX560 beaten by both >RX570 - 1080p@60~hz maxed, running most maxed older games at 100~Hz >RX580 and GTX1060 6GB - 1080p@80hz maxed, 1440p@60hz at lower settings; RX580 better in newer games >GTX 1070 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high >GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz / 1440p@60hz maxed, 4k@60hz in a few games; Probably the highest end card you need for 1080p/1440p >GTX 1080Ti - 1440p@144hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games
RAM: >Check your Mobo QVL before buying any RAM >Ryzen CPUs benefits a lot from high speed RAM
General: ALWAYS LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS! Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor. The Ryzen lineup comes with surprisingly good stock coolers. consider using them over any
My 20+ hour struggle continues, I plugged in the power switch and reset switch wrong and I think I connected my HDD and optical drive wrong, I'm just going to take a break from this for a few days
Jaxson Clark
disassemble all the part and start with simplest one, - connect psu to the power, turn it on does your psu fan spun? - add psu to motherboard and cpu without ram, it should beep - add ram and gpu, connect the monitor, try to go to bios - finally add your hdd
Anthony Rogers
mining is on it's way out famm
Julian Brooks
Yeah I won't be mining eth and stuff, just some shitcoins on the bitcointalk forum before they hit exchanges.
Nolan Roberts
Went to turn on my PC last night and it made a big pop sound and a flash and then went quiet. Smelled like burning too. After that it was conpletely dead, press the on button and nothing. I opened it up and looked for any signs of a problem but didnt see anything. I looked at the mobo for a while and didn't see any signs of a short or burnout. So... power supply? Not sure how to test it.
Isaac Jones
>recommends iGPU graphics >only one CPU with iPGU in the list Why? Also the R3 isn't really a much better value than the Pentium, is it?
Josiah Wilson
Better get a spare PSU to test it with. Sounds like exploding PSU to me.
Angel Nelson
2 vs 4 cores matter
Adrian Taylor
R3 1200 when OCed beats the Bentium. Ditto for A12-9800 which has a better iGPU and can also be OCed.
Anthony Morales
Sure but it's almost twice the price right now and you need to spend money for a gpu (which unless you are a total poorfag you would do anyway9 but leaving the Pentium out makes no sense in this context.
But would a poorfag build really include an A350 chipset?
I'm getting it prebuilt on another site for peace of mind/included warranty, but as a result I have to pick certain stuff like Corsair RAM because they have deals with suppliers
Do I need to upgrade to splash out for liquid cooling or anything?
It will be used for a wide range of game genres. MMOs, FPS, RTS
Daniel Evans
>But would a poorfag build really include an A350 chipset? There is barely any price difference between the two. Maybe $5 or something.
Samuel Cruz
I've been driving myself insane with my obtuse need to fit a computer into a hole for /aesthetics/ and I find the case with the perfect size and features. (Antec ISK 600M) But oh wait it hasn't been made in years and can only be bought used for like $200.
Anyone else have some suggestions for this one? Dimensions: 13in Width x 13in Height x 15in Depth. mATX. Preferably with some sort of disk drive space and I/O connections on the front. My alternate option is the Corsair Air 240, but it's lack of disk drive pisses me the fuck off.
Landon Gomez
Look at your connector diagram and bend a paper clip and complete the circuit in two pins to make the PSU think it's on. If you hear the fan whim, then it's probably fine.
Or you can just get a power supply tester.
Aaron Peterson
Yeah that seems the most likely I guess. Thing's only 2-3 years old. Sonofabitch
Leo Anderson
>building PCs
Jace Evans
>1366x768 59Hz
Camden Richardson
G4560 is still relevant faggots.
Reminder that not everyone is American >$40 price difference is significant in other currencies >still available in other countries >it's actually $57 in mine, with good availability
Of course, this would change once we know for sure whether it can be upgraded to Coffee Lake or not.
Connor Lopez
that is pretty sexy
Christopher Rivera
>Alienware
Samuel Smith
I've been waiting for >1 month for GPUs to be back in stock, and I'm at the point where I'd like to have my PC right now, by next Sunday if possible.
Should I just go ahead and buy a 1060 6GB for 280€ or am I getting ripped off?
Samuel Lee
Best psu for a 1080ti?
Sebastian Ortiz
How are 980 Ti prices where you are? They're like 7% worse than a 1070 but there should be plenty of used ones around by now. I won't upgrade from mine until 2019 or 2020 if my estimates are correct.
Robert Perry
600w?
Henry Foster
It's >400€, insane prices
Josiah Long
tfw bought a 970 for 100 euro
Easton Ortiz
Sub 500 € light-gaming build for the Krauts
Not going to buy it, just was curious what is possible with the R3 and what not in terms of money.
General thouhgts of this build:
>Use 2 x 4 GB of RAM to profit from dual-channel over 1 x 8 GB which would have been way cheaper >Only 120 GB SSD to avoid spending too much money on storage >Focus on a good PSU to avoid losing the hardware quickly, but renounce a modular PSU. Non-modular will do in this price range
Since it's still almost 30 € below 500, you can still either put a bigger SSD, or get the 1050 TI
Thoughts? What would you have done different?
Luis Hill
That's 555 $ in retard btw, but I assume US prices should be way lower anyway.
Austin Richardson
4gb isn't enough ram.
Angel Gonzalez
The Athlon X4 950 is cheaper and has 4 real cores.
Robert Foster
650w Gold
Seagate is a good choice.
Eli Thompson
Why get an SSD instead of HDD for a budget build.
Connor Carter
it's 2 x 4...
Easton Edwards
Because it's 2017
John Turner
What about EVGA? I have a 750w I'm looking at for 109USD
Josiah Hall
>4 real cores user...
Never mind the fact that the G4560 will be faster. But personally I'd get the Athlon just because I can upgrade to whatever until 2020
Cameron Evans
>4 real cores. You mean as in "two cores sharing one FPU"?
Psu is packed with dust, pretty sure that killed it. I ain't fucking around with these caps, just going to replace it.
Carson Gonzalez
So my stupid computer guy built me a PC with no CPU cooling. My graphics card hasn't come in yet so I'm just hoping the pc hasn't even been booted yet and he hasn't fried my chip. Stupid cunt. Is there anyway to tell if a cpu is damaged when I finally get it home? Yes I'm a complete scrubby noob at this.
Michael Taylor
>Seagate PSU Do you buy Seasonic HDD?
Owen Lopez
EVGA G3 or P2 and you should be set for the next 7 years
Andrew Butler
Sounds good I'll go with the G3 750w
Daniel Martinez
Which CPU? Except for certain models, most would come with a cooler. The PC would automatically switch off if the CPU gets too hot btw
Carson Gutierrez
Are there any graphics cards in the gtx 10 series that have two DVI ports? Or is there any way to get 144hz on two monitors without the use of DP?
HDMI 2.0 cables are expensive fuck
Adam Price
It's an i7 6800k so that's an unlocked one right? I don't think they come with a stock sink, and I assumed it did until yesterday, and I think he does as well. That's good to know that it will turn off, so I shouldn't worry too much? I'll be slapping a liquid cooler on it tomorrow before he gets everything rolling.
Liam Peterson
>he fell for the 3.5 GB 970 are dirt cheap at the moment because everyone is trying to get rid of them
You should be fine, CPUs will automatically halt the system if temperatures climb to unsafe levels.
>Are there any graphics cards in the gtx 10 series that have two DVI ports? No. DVI is pretty much dead at this point and it's only included in cards for legacy reasons. >Or is there any way to get 144hz on two monitors without the use of DP? You could buy DP to DVI adapters, but those aren't cheap either.
Thomas Lee
oh yeah
Bentley Cruz
Alright thanks for the extra reassurance I was really worried I'd be booting up a brand new PC with a damaged chip.
Anthony Price
Reminder to always check the QVL on your motherboard's website before choosing hardware for it.
Carter Rivera
>RAM at 2133 CL15
What did he mean by this
Carson Roberts
Where to buy cheap win 10 key
Wyatt Ward
Don't. Last batch of Supernova G2's are no longer Super Flower manufactured and none of these new models are.
Hey man, I remember you also, thanks for advice on case. Is the 'RAM with 14-14-14-34 timings' better in general or just for mining?
Carson Wilson
check were is the fail first, unmount gpu hdd ...
only conect motherboard and one stick of ram try power up. if it power up continue inserting extra hardware one by one if not bot is psu mother board (procesor or ram) check the psu with a fan or wathever.
Alexander Jenkins
Any good build around the Vega?
What total budget would one expect for such a build?
Living in Austria
Julian Allen
Yeah I remember seeing it 5-6 years ago and not really feeling the design but I really want it now.
Why do you Aussies even try to play video games when your country is so desperate to make it affordable?
Jaxon Sanders
Still using a 760 lmao, how shit are they now and would it be bottlenecking my 4690k
Ryan Turner
Anyone here have experience buying hardware from another country namely the US? A lot of the stuff is way cheaper in the US.
Thanks in advance
Austin Hall
wew lad, guess that's not an option for me. thanks for the effort.
aussies need gaymen too
Leo Ortiz
r8 my build. CPU: AMD Opteron 6272 x2 Mobo: Asus KGPE-D16 AMD Ram: 16 GB of Kingston DDR3 ECC RAM Case: Fractal Design Define XL R2 EATX PSU: EVGA - 80 PLUS 600W Graphics card: Gtx 660 ti Storage: 250GB SSD samsung plus 4TB HDD Cooling: Bunch of fans I have.
Matthew Howard
Where are you located?
You have to think about things like import tax and other things
Kayden Moore
Shipping, customs, no warranty. Not worth it
Oliver Perry
where can i buy a 970 for that price?
Cooper Thompson
South Africa, as far as I know hardware is a 0 rated item here(no tax). Now that you put it like that, I'm not as interested as I was before
Thomas Fisher
Just bought 12 1080Ti. Equihash here we come :)
Evan Allen
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Jaxson Murphy
should I add something or does this look alright?
Brandon Williams
How do you guys shop for a monitor? I cant decide on a 27" or a 32"
Alexander Jenkins
i would change the mobo to something else, i've had some problems with pc mate
Dominic Rivera
You'll need a GPU and I'd go with a 2,5" ssd over yours.
Luke Wright
thanks for the heads-up
waiting for VEGA any reason as to why you prefer an SSD over the m2 drive? budget wise it's not an issue that's why I picked a m2 since it's faster or am I missing something?
Samuel Edwards
Just because 2.5" is cheaper, if you can afford it M.2 is great (no cables and less space + more speed). What old GPU are you running with until then? Isn't that case a bit shorter than normal in terms of GPU length?
Sebastian Flores
oh okay rx480, the case is pretty big and it should be sufficient for any kind of gpus I think
Samuel Sullivan
What problems? Mine has been fine so far, only problem is my ram can only hit 2933.
John Johnson
>PC part picker thinks that the EVGA CLC280 is incompatible with AM4 kek
Noah Thomas
What do you think of this build? es.pcpartpicker.com/list/DxX9m8 Can I make it cheaper or better? I already have a 700W PSU.
Jose Hughes
Lower timings are in general better, if not significantly so. What's special about 14-14-14-34 is that it's Samsung B-die, which gets along better with Ryzen. You're more likely to be able to run it at full speed compared with lower quality ram. A set of Hynix or lower quality Samsung may say 3200mhz, but have trouble actually running at that speed. At least that's how it is for regular Ryzen. BIOS updates since launch have been improving the RAM situation, so Threadripper could fare better.
Lucas Phillips
my ram was unstable at 2133 and sometimes the pc wouldn't boot at all
Daniel Evans
hello i dont know if this belonged on /sqt/ or here but if i want to upgrade from i3 to i7 do i just need to buy the processor or do i have to replace the motherboard too?
Dylan Smith
1050ti oc and rx 470 4gb are almost equal in price where i live, I'm going to pair it with ryzen 1600 for video editing and gaming, which one will be a better choice
Jonathan Cruz
Get faster RAM. If you want to save money, you may want to consider just using the stock cooler. Wraith Spire is quite acceptable even for decent overclock.
Mason Miller
The 470 is almost as fast as the 1060 3GB, and significantly faster than the 1050 ti. So unless you have an actual reason to prefer Nvidia, it's the better choice.
Would I run into any issues using a 710 as a placeholder in a R5 1600 build until I get a decent GPU? Won't be used for gaming right now.
Juan Young
check if your mobo supports the CPU
Matthew Cook
If they're both same socket, the i7 should work fine.
Benjamin Sullivan
it does, its the lga1150, which one should i get? im not a gamer btw its more for video/music production
Aiden Garcia
Ty man, I will look into this. Do you have any recommendations for '14-14-14-34 ' ? I am looking for pretty much top tier parts, but not so much that they are priced like several thousand per piece, but still very high.
Aiden Davis
not just the socket, the actual CPU
if it's an asus motherboard put the CPU name and check if the mobo is on the list, i'm sure other manufacturers have the same asus.com/support/cpu_support
Juan Long
Ok, the old thread died, got one comment (to switch 1200 for 1600) What do you think?
> Buget up to 1000 USD - hard mode - VAT included (23% EU-fag here) and screen incuded >Goal: facebook/writing machine, YT, watching movies, occasional editing of pictures, rarely trimming down clips for YT. However, I want something that will last for a couple of years:: >CPU Ryzen 1200 >MOBO Asus Prime B350M-A >GPU MSI GF 1030 (silent version) >PSU Corsair CX450M >MEMORY Patriot 2x4GB, 2400, validated with mobo producer >STORAGE ADATA 128 GB SSD, 1TB Seagate Barracuda >CASE beQuire! Pure 600 >SCREEN Dell U2414H >OTHER DVD drive
