/pcbg/ - PC Building General

If you want help:
>Assemble parts list
pcpartpicker.com/
>State the budget for your build (and country if not USA)
>List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate
>Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs?
How to assemble a PC, select components & more (outdated)
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC

CPUs:
No i5 unless discounted
>G4560 - poverty-tier builds
>R3 1200 - Budget builds (R3 1300x - Good stop-gap between the 1500x and the 1200, only get a 1400 if you absolutely need multithreading
>R5 1500x - Good but up to 1600 if you can
>R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage; 1600x if you want higher stock clocks
>R7/Used Xeon/Threadripper - Compute/Multitask/VM/mixed use; Not for just gaming

GPUs:
Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser
>Integrated CPU Graphics - Desktop stuff and very light games
>GTX 1050(Ti) - Lower end budget cards, drop settings on newer games, RX560 beaten by both
>RX570 - 1080p@60~hz maxed, running most maxed older games at 100~Hz
>RX580 and GTX1060 6GB - 1080p@80hz maxed, 1440p@60hz at lower settings; RX580 better in newer games
>GTX 1070 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high
>GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz / 1440p@60hz maxed, 4k@60hz in a few games; Probably the highest end card you need for 1080p/1440p
>GTX 1080Ti - 1440p@144hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games
>Vega soon.

RAM:
>Check your Mobo QVL before buying any RAM
>Ryzen CPUs benefits a lot from high speed RAM

General:
ALWAYS LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS!
Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later
NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor.
The Ryzen lineup comes with surprisingly good stock coolers. consider using them over any

Other urls found in this thread:

youtu.be/69WFt6_dF8g
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Rose
youtube.com/watch?v=y2ekQXYEbbs
pcpartpicker.com/guide/wMgXsY/modest-gaming-build
pcpartpicker.com/list/vgmBBP
pcpartpicker.com/list/Kq8mM8
youtube.com/watch?v=QSNrGenJDnc
pcpartpicker.com/list/Hz4jr7
thermaltake.com.au/Chassis/Full_Tower_/Core/C_00003076/Core_V71_Tempered_Glass_Edition/design.htm
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

death to miners

I've noticed stores have GPUs in stock now, just for inflated prices.

Is mining dying off a bit, and can we expect prices/stock to normalise soon?

who is this semen demon?

so, thanks to the nice guys of /pcbg/ and the wiki and I finally did it, I built my own pc, I first wanted to thank everyone that helped me
everything's fine, no fuck-ups (minor nor major), and I'm pleasantly surprised of the result
only one thing: I have an SSD and an HDD mounted, I installed the os on the SSD and everything was a-ok until I noticed that the HDD won't show up from the file explorer, I checked both in the bios and in the devices settings of windows and the hard-disk seems to be there and functioning but I can't still get to use it
is there something I need to do to 'activate' it?
thanks in advance for the (further) help

your sister.

youtu.be/69WFt6_dF8g
rude

fpbp

didn't know they made a TG version of the Mini C boys. worth the extra ~$25?

Is the SATA data cable connected to the motherboard? if so, just open up disk management and format the HDD, then name it

who the fuck is that trap?

and when you name it, name it "Definitely not porn"

I've only ever used stock CPU coolers, but it looks like Ryzens CPUs don't come with one. Which CPU cooler would you guys recommend?

Is the 1400 worth it over the 1200 if I want to watch movies/have a browser open on another monitor while casually gaming or emulating older games? 1600 is out of my price range

thanks user, easier than I thought, HDD up and running
sorry, I already named it 'HDD', I'm a simple man

NH-D15

what?
I bought a Ryzen CPU (1600) last month and it came with its own cooler

Which cpu? A lot of them do, and they're good coolers.

I LOVE ROSE! PLEASE COME BACK!

the x series dont come with coolers

Oh, really? My 1600X didn't come with one.

I'm just looking for something cheap that'll do the job. Or should you not skimp out on CPU coolers?

>315mm max GPU

reeeeeeeee

what makes u think its a boy

>the x series dont come with coolers
ok, didn't know that

Sup Forums memes

wiki has page on him
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Rose

>check RosePlaysGames channel
>last video three years ago

i found out cause mine came in and when i was gtonna start building i read that it didnt

i'm improving my old pc:
athlon II x3 455
sapphire hd 5570
msi 740gm-p25

got a second hand phenom x6 1090t, don't have a better gpu atm.

is it ok if i use the phenom with the other old components?

>ok, didn't know that
Some of them do.
The Ryzen 3 1200, Ryzen 3 1300X, and Ryzen 5 1400 all come with the Wraith Stealth cooler.
The Ryzen 5 1500X, Ryzen 5 1600, and Ryzen 7 1700 all come with the Wraith Spire Cooler. The 1700's has an RGB ring exclusive to it.
The Ryzen 5 1600X, Ryzen 7 1700X, and Ryzen 7 1800X don't come with coolers.
youtube.com/watch?v=y2ekQXYEbbs

If the chipset is the same yeah...

But you already know what we're gonna say.
Get the R5 1600. Is the next Phenom. And will probably be as future proof as you feel your old athlon has been.

Does Superbiiz have ridiculous shipping costs or something?

Is this OK & up to date?
pcpartpicker.com/guide/wMgXsY/modest-gaming-build
Need in a hurry a new pc, mostly for video edit and 3d render, but as far as i know the specs for a gaming pc should be very similar.

Man this case looks so clean. I'd totally get it if it didn't only support 2x 3.5" HDD's - Would be a lot better if it had more slots.

Thanks user, this is my old rig in my mom's house, which i visit twice a month and i'm not planning on upgrading the mobo.

Thing is, i'm afraid that using the 1090t along with the hd 5570 will bottleneck so hard that keep using my x3 455 would be a better option.

Looks Good.
But you need more RAM. 16 GB is recommended minimum for video editing+ rendering.

Also, I personally recommend(and own) the R7 1700. It's worth every penny.

I'd fuck the girl (male)

>Is mining dying off a bit, and can we expect prices/stock to normalise soon?
I wouldn't bet on it. Though apparently Vega is supposed to have great mining performance, which means mining becomes less profitable with Polaris, so that should bring the prices on mid-range cards closer to normal, at least.

guys there's still a fuckhuge bundle of cables coming from the psu that I don't need and I don't know what the fuck to do with or even how to manage them without making a mess before closing the case
pls halp, teach me the magic ways of cable management because I'm really lost

>the x series dont come with coolers
Well, the 1600x, 1700x and 1800x don't. The 1500x and 1300x do have stock coolers.

Looks pretty solid a few things to note:

If you're looking to stick with 8gb, be sure to get a 2x4gb for dual channel it's about a 10-15% performance increase for RAM (increases RAM bandwidth capabilities)

Or do what said and upgrade to 16gb with 2x 8gb sticks.

Shell out a little bit more and for you 67$ you can get a 2tb Seagate Barracuda - faster read write speeds in comparison to the Hitachi - but the price for 2tb on the one you've chosen is still really good.

Thanks! What about the GPU, do you think it's alright? or should I wait for the amd GPUs to be back in stock

Does anyone know of any bracket/enclosure that will house two 2.5" drives, preferably covering both? It would hopefully look like a single 3.5" that houses two 2.5" drives. The drive cage in my case can only hold one 2.5" drive and two 3.5" drives, but I have two 2.5" drives they're both WD blues and I'd prefer them to not be seen as the blue doesn't match the a e s t h e t i c of my setup.

Anyone have case recommendations that meets most/all of the following criteria?

-Mid tower, preferable no longer than ~20" length; height irrelevant
-Very easy cleaning - lots of dust filters that are easily removable. Ability to pull out bottom and/or PSU dust filter from the side or the front is a big plus.
-Tempered glass side panel - not necessary, but a nice plus.
-Noise dampening material where possible
-Hinged side panel - this sounds like a convenient feature but I could be dissuaded from it. But even if it's not hinged, easy access is a plus

I've looked at a number of cases but all are lacking in some way. The Define C with Tempered Glass looks really good but only 315mm for GPU is unfortunate.

Carbide 600C Inverse would be good if not for the flimsy plastic panel.

The Enthoo Evolv ATX could be nice, but I'm skeptical of having tempered glass side panels on both sides. The Luxe would be good but it's a full tower and bigger than I'd like. P400S could be an option here as well.

I have a RX570, but that is for gaming porpuses. For video rebdering and such, Nvidia GPUs are recommended because of CUDA . That GPU is fine. If you can get the 6gb that would be better, but little dofference

AMD has Open CL, but CUDA is apparently more effective. So stick to that.

So, what, should i just give up on getting an AMD GPU. Though at the rate things are going it feels like the only GPU available for my next build will be a 1050ti or 460.

Maybe i'll drop getting a free sync monitor and go for a regular one, since the g-sync premium is retarded.

Nevermind, I found what I was looking for.

R8 my build, m8s. I'll post pictures and update price when I get get new case fans (need two more) and clean up my cabling.

Total paid includes the extra shipping I paid to get my case on the same day as the rest of my components. The WD blues were pulled from an old external and old laptop that I don't use anymore.

>hnnnnghhh
>m-my threads, they're ripping

Curious to hear your justification for buying 2 shit drives

Can I avoid the botnet with this build + libreboot + gentoo?

If you could read, you'd see that those drives were pulled from an old external and an old laptop that I don't use anymore.

Nice trips though.

cut them off or get a modular psu

If you were planning on getting one soon, probably. Though Nvidia prices are pretty inflated as well.

if you're worried about psu cables, first and foremost you should get a modular or semi modular psu.

but as you probably don't have one, the best you can do is fold up your unused cables and zip tie them.

Thanks. Please mark them as purchased next time for those just dropping in.

I'm trying to decide between getting the G4560 or the Ryzen 3. I'm leaning towards the G4560 since I'm poverty tier, but the Ryzen 3 is only 60 more dollars. I want to game mainly, but I also will be using it for my computer science work.

Is the ryzen meme worth $60?

pcpartpicker.com/list/vgmBBP
pcpartpicker.com/list/Kq8mM8

that's not how bottlenecking works

>Double the cost of g4560 for 5% performance increase

if you can ACTUALLY get a 4560 for $56 sure, go for that. Everywhere I'm seeing, the chip is closer to $80 though.
The r3 will do better if you overclock it a little, and the stock cooler is good enough for like 3.8ghz, maaaaybe 3.9. but at $56 get the pentium.

okay. I keep hearing that the ryzen would perform better on other tasks outside of games but I wasn't sure if it was worth it. and the upgrade path

Yeah I wasn't considering it at $80, but It dropped in price at a microcenter near me

Wanted:

Router that
* is supported by LEDE
* has 6 external antennas, 3 for 2.4 Ghz and 3 for 5 GHz

Ryzen 3 will even beat i5's at non-gaming tasks, and the upgrade path makes it totally worth it

Well, you can pretty much get g4560 + a cheap MOBO for the price of an R3(assuming it actually goes for $60), so upgrade path isn't necessarily worth considering at that point.

Dang okay. I'll probably go with that then

>tfw bought 32gb ram for 100 bucks and cpu for 40.

True. Maybe I'll just get the g4560 and then upgrade to a better mobo and cpu later on.

Are 21:9 monitors worth it or just a meme?

Let's add a general rule to the OP: Never purchase anything on release.

youtube.com/watch?v=QSNrGenJDnc

Just make sure you grab a decent B350 motherboard.

Ultrashort

New rule:
ALWAYS purchase AMD on release

Thanks, that video helped me decide. Totally worth it to get the r3 in my case

>Used 2500k + Asus P8P67/Z68 Deluxe

Well, there are no video cards in Soviet Russia.

Never buy version one (1) of anything, except in some rare cases new architechture (Sandy Bridge), but never on new die (SB was second Intel arch on 32nm).

pls help

>PCe version of 9800 GT
>Not fake

So why is the 7700k not mentioned?

Lil.
GF9800 was PCIE by default.

Well, if i were you I'd save up for the 1600.
You sound like you could make good use of it. And can ve seen as a long term investment. Save up a couple bucks and get something that'll last you a while user.

Otherwise no. The 1200 is where the bang/buck is at.

Isn't Rocket League a bit of an outlier? Seems like they're not supporting Ryzen at all, other games that made patches for it saw huge performance increases and they're just not doing anything.

If your son has requested a new "processor" from a company called "AMD", this is genuine cause for alarm. AMD is a third-world based company who make inferior, "knock-off" copies of American processor chips. They use child labor extensively in their third world sweatshops, and they deliberately disable the security features that American processor makers, such as Intel, use to prevent hacking. AMD chips are never sold in stores, and you will most likely be told that you have to order them from internet sites. Do not buy this chip! This is one request that you must refuse your son, if you are to have any hope of raising him well.

Because of buying CPU just for delid it is not a smart move.

pcpartpicker.com/list/Hz4jr7
I've been using this for the past 3 years, only upgraded to the GTX 1060a year ago, had a GTX 760 before that.

Like really.
It's obviously a girl.

even the 1400 is stretching the budget a little bit but I wasn't sure if the extra threads would help if I was multitasking. I'd like the 1600 but it's a bit much for me. My alternative was to wait for Zen2 or whatever in 2020 and get a 6 or 8 core CPU then when I presumably have more money to work with.

Looking for some build advice:

>country
Germany

>budget
500€, but I'd rather only spend 400 (so equivalent to 500-600$)

>goal
Linux gaming machine. I want to play previous gen games like Fallout NV, GTAIV, Skyrim with 30-60 fps on a not very large 60Hz monitor.
No nVidia Graphics pls.

Should be upgradeable without replacing everything soon.

do you have any questions? How are we supposed to respond to this?
>"Hey guys, I have a computer."

a-anyone? ;_;

My router is like 15m away. And I get a 25Mbps speed. Should I got Cat5e, cat6/a or cat7/a??

Ryzen 5 1600
B350 board of your liking
8gb ram (or more depending on your gpu choice)
RX 460 or a used 290/390 or 470 if you find one

...

thermaltake.com.au/Chassis/Full_Tower_/Core/C_00003076/Core_V71_Tempered_Glass_Edition/design.htm

I bought a motospeed inflictor ck104 and bought my own keycaps and all of a sudden after like 2 months the D key stops working. Fo r example. I could be holding down D and it will stop for like 1 whole second periodically. So I could be typing a message and half of my sentence will have no D's in it. Anyone got any ideas in how to fix? I checked my keys and they were clean and there is a tiny bit of plastic that shouldn't be affecting it all.

/mkg/ is no help

Thanks for the advice, but that's a 600€ build.

I guess that's what you get for the cheapest mks. You could try to replace that switch, although it would propably be hard to find an identical one since it's not cherry or gateron. What I would suggest, is to take a switch from a key that you don't use that much, or maybe even don't use at all (like scroll lock, or pause) and swap them in place with the D switch. Of course, assuming that it's a problem with the switch itself.

do they make locked drive cages like this that you can replace your normal internal drive cage with?

Is there a video guide on how to swap it? Is it easy?

It's literally basic soldering, you'll easily find some tutorials on youtube on how to solder/desolder them. Any soldering iron will be ok.

o, why hath rose forsaken us