Why did the technically superior site fail, Sup Forums?

Why did the technically superior site fail, Sup Forums?

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not a meme

cause it's a meme just like every other *chan

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Compromised administration

cock eating weeb faggot user base just like this place

>genetic dood fucking ladyboys
>pedo owner of pig farm taking the site from the aforementioned dood under threat of feeding him to the pigs
i wonder

Shitty software and 12K wasted on making a superior software that was worse than the already shitty software

A userbase that is so autistic that it went on a screeching fit whenever the genetic dud attempted advertising on reddit, something that would be useful and would have helped the site

the genetic dud allowing /ints/ to exist and to raid any board which would attempt to setup home on 8gag

the genetic dud allowing intra-board raiding in general

the genetic dud handing over all the big-boards to his IRC-circlejerk buddies

the genetic dud being a genetic dud

the genetic dud being a lazy piece of shit and using a vichan hack from the begging

Concerns about ownership and the fact that they couldn't establish themselves as a legitimate community. I tried to use it for like two months, but the only thing people talked about was how bad moot and Sup Forums were as opposed to building a community that could replace it.

I fucked off back to here because people were actually talking about things besides social controversies.

Did you try their /tech/ board?

I remember everyone shitting on moot because he said that infinity chan would fail.

cause its lolded

>the genetic dud being a lazy piece of shit and using a vichan hack from the begging
Uh? Expand on this

It's pretty shit.

It's dead /r/amd

Worse is better nigga.

Sup Forums is already too popular

it's like someone trying to create a new youtube and wanting it to have more users than the original

there'd have to be a REALLY good reason for normies to use the new one

you have to get the normie userbase or it will fail

>Shitty software and 12K wasted on making a superior software that was worse than the already shitty software

this

There's a reason Sup Forums has very limited formatting and one image per post, it prevents threads turning into an eye cancer clusterfuck

It was so completely dead when I was there. Like so fucking dead. I complained about it once and there were people who literally posted "We shouldn't try to grow the board it's so comfy as is Sup Forums is fucking shit".

Lot of good that did you idiots. You're either growing or dying.

Why did you even make this thread?

Not kidding here, I actually went there for a couple of years when moot cucked us out and the whole mod leak happened. I'll give you the short and simple run down of everything that went wrong.

That site was in the asscrack of the internet before Gamergate. Notice how Sup Forums and Sup Forums are the two top board there? That's why. Freddy or the genetic dud as we'll call him came up with the idea for the site when tripping on shrooms (I'm not shitting you).

He had a broship with Joshua Moon and equally bad coder programmer etc. Things went smooth until Gamergate came along and the dud had to make space for actual server use. He was originally heavily involved with Gamergate but that shit wore him down over time due to childish scandals, in fights and drama perpetuated by BOs from the Sup Forums board and Twatter cliques. The dud lost interest in being invested in the site even when the current GG board's BO collected info on posters he didn't like and sent that shit to the FBI hoping they would get V& for shit posting and then cried that the very same people tried to swat him when later digging showed that he lied about the whole thing and even the local PD agreed.

This is only a small sample of the regular drama that went on there that caused a schism in the community itself and the whole hostile takeover of the Sup Forums board was an even bigger shit show.

Fast forward and the site not only had jaded SJWs cutting off all funding to the site, but it was getting hit with the lizardskid's DDoS tool on a regular basis. Some theorize it was Jim (2ch's owner) more on that later and Jim came in and "generously" offered server space and protection to the dud "out of the goodness of his own heart". Does this shit sound familiar? It should because this is exactly the same circumstances that began when Jim came under control of 2ch. This ending was no different.

By some shady paperwork behind closed doors Jim now owns the site.

Functionally the website was great, the userbase tho was complete shit, even worse than Sup Forums and that's saying something.

because of (((Jim)))
He wanted to turn the site into making a profit, and in turn pissed off most of the community with his actions and rampant censorship (Avoiding censorship was one of the reasons it became popular in the first place)

With its already dead userbase, there was a hack back on April 1st that wiped the entire site, so they had to restore from a backup that was several months old, driving away the last of its users

Josh tried to split and make 16 chan based off of the original ideals behind eight chan, but fell short of time and money to maintain it, shutting it down after just a few weeks

t. Very active user of Eight chans /tech/ board before it got fucked

(I still think /tech/ was lightyears better than Sup Forums has ever been)

It billed itself as a free speech board, but you are far, far, far more likely to be banned from a given board there for holding the wrong opinions. Except they'll just say you're "shilling" and suppressing speech becomes acceptable.

Basically the exact same thing as reddit but catering to right-wing faggot conspiracy theorists.

I still dont know why he wants that broken ass site. 2ch is big, i get that but 8c is shit in both community (worse than even this shithole) and also its has no revenue potential, who the hell is gonna advertise for it.

This caused a shift in friendship between Josh and the dud and the site was site haywire and the dud conveniently blamed it all on Josh. Jim used the dud as a human shield because he knew everyone still trusted them even though he sold out his community long before (more on that later) and the site remained a gigantic cluster fuck of a mess even to this day. The dud is basically living with Jim in gook land, has no way home and his only job is being a human shield. Don't feel sorry for him, he did it to himself.

Then the bedchan leaks happened and proved the site was not only storing user data, but had it all the way back to 2014. Jim also took over in such Communist stile Kim Jong Un would be jealous. He banned all negative talk about him, made his son Ron the admin who can't code to save his life and the site shows it and then not only nuked a bunch of boards but blamed it on CP which was a blatant lie which was alienating to users who for years debunked MSM articles saying the site was a haven for CP.

Jim and Ron denied the leaks left and right but never debunked them. This would happen on a regular basis but the biggest shitstorm was during the April Fools hack on the site which Endchan covered very well.

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To date the site is a hughox that only houses the crowds who originally came from Gamergate and the Redditards who they attracted. The parity it has with 7chan is astounding because GGers are like the new maskfags. moot kicked them off the site so they went to another site to maskfag. They couldn't culturally transcend Gamergate so they stagnated and died yet still have the hubris to believe they are superior to us. History repeats itself.

Cripplekike really had a chance though thanks to gg, but he seriously fucked up by letting trolls and shitposter roam freely because muh freedumb of speech. That prevented it from growing, later technical problems and that fat fucking faggot shitnigger Josh put the nail in the coffin introducing drama and unstability, the site had constant errors, downtime and the new interface was shit. After that the stablished userbase started leaving too.

The userbase is so stratified; multiple tech-related boards with overlapping demographics. Plus, no custom CSS `a la 4chanX including kind of imperative stuff if you're dealing with multiple slow boards like thread watching and cross-board filters.

8ch isn't a site like a forum like wakachan or 4-ch where there's only really one board that everyone browses, and there's a clear delineation between other interest boards.

I stole their 6666666 Sup Forums get.

pics or it didn't happen

>no audio webms on all boards
>shit filesize
>single files
>captcha per post instead of captcha per 24 hours
>loong as fuck cooldowns
posting here is slow as fuck but it's not dead and inconsistent

multipe files per post enable cancerous avatarfags even more

Massive understatement.

The most annoying thing about that site is the smug anti-Sup Forums circlejerking. Not the fact that it exists, because circlejerking like that happens everywhere, but the ceaselessness of it. Every minute of every hour of every day was filled with people whining about Sup Forums without a hint of irony. At least when idiots scream about Reddit or Tumblr here it's mostly done to piss someone off.

same way every superior software fails

it wasn't the first one there

>superior
user please. It was run badly and coded badly.

Coded badly could almost be forgiven. It was the drama that killed it.

Seriously this without a doubt. The hubris of the posters there knew no bounds. They spawned a culture similar to SomethingAwful which was ironic since they hated them. The basically hated anyone that wasn't them unless they kissed the rings. They were the imageboard version of "it's ok when we do it". They have no room to criticize the things moot has done in Sup Forums's entire existence when Jim has done even worse in less than two years.

I literally made hundreds of posts in the early days about how this needed to be moved on from if they wanted to actually build a new community and I got called a faggot every single time. How bad Sup Forums was and how much "better" that place was all they fucked talked about.

It had a real chance to actually do something and they pissed it all away. I guess it's the internet mirroring life in a way, whenever a rebellion achieves any measure of success they usually can't move past bitching about the past government/administration. So much easier to criticize than it is to create something.

>Superior
don't make me laugh. Whenever I've used it, I've noticed it's chock full of bugs that should be rudimentary to fix. Like redirects after posting.

Apparently they got hacked too. Incompetent cripplefuck owner probably outsourced back end and front end development to pooland

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you can't seriously believe that can you?

EEE

They started regulating it and banning illegal content and cp

>You know what Sup Forums needs to be, Reddit
Gee, let me ponder on that for a hot second.

>The dud lost interest in being invested in the site even when the current GG board's BO collected info on posters he didn't like
>he
Wait the genetic dud himself did this? Holy shit and I thought moot and hiroshimoot were bad for bending over to the FBI without complaining.

The only thing i like about that site is the share threads with free games.

Not sure why they need to crack down on anything when hardly any of the boards have any people posting on them.

>

(You) will be back one day...

The creator tried to win the pol audience not knowing that they are known imageboard wreckers. Eventually every board was plagued with these people.

And real world is plagued with them too

Get used to it faggot

T plaugelet

I like it for the /cuckquean/ board. One of the few communities for it

> not knowing that growing killed Sup Forums.
Smaller, more specialized environments create the best Communitys

>there'd have to be a REALLY good reason for normies to use the new one

I got permabanned on Sup Forums for trying to help mods. Are Nazi mods a good enough reason?

>the eighto-chan user is a mass replier
Who wouda thought

"Technically superior" site made in PHP with quadratic complexity captcha that burned their server.
Also Jim is way more shady than Hiro will ever be, and actually scary.

Because the entire model makes no money and no one can explain how Sup Forums itself stays afloat.

I posted on one of their porn boards and like two weeks later my own post was still on front page.

You can't have a community when it takes 5 days for someone to reply to your post. I'd rather shitposting faggots than, being stuck with one thread with roughly 10 posters for the whole day.

>drama perpetuated by BOs

There's something you really have to give moot credit for. The strategy in which mods are silent and anonymous really does minimise the bullshit.

I mean people bitch about thread deletions and mods being on the rag but they get over it and people don't spend months going out of their way to personally start shit with a particular mod in the current environment.

>archive.is/hcMn4

How the ever loving fuck does coughing up a database password from PHP let someone logon to Cloudflare followed by all backend servers?

/leftypol/ is comfy and the best board out of any *chans. In a time when every board is a colony of 4/pol/, /leftypol/ comes as a breath of fresh air.

>Sup Forums and Sup Forums are the two top board there
Actually, /leftypol/ is 2nd.

Can you feel the difference?

First come First serve.

No image board has a chance as long as Sup Forums is online.

The only thing worse than mods is the snivelling fucks who suck up to them.

You deserved your permaban.

Filled with nazi larpfags, general site issues and was deleted earlier this year

because there's little reason to not use Sup Forums

In theory, but in practice that's not the case. Go visit other imageboards.

Well first thing every board that isn't Sup Forums or Sup Forums or /leftypol/ is near dead, that alone should tell you about what kind of people browse 8ch (fucking underage)

However i have found a certain quality in it, since traffic negatively correlates with post quality, i have found 8/k/ much better to browse and post on that 4/k/

We really need a big culling here to improve the posting quality.

/fringe/ is so much better than /x/

this. it was fun while it lasted.

But you could post more than just shitty webms on that chan.

It French Fried (Blockbuster Online Video) when it should've Pizzad (Netflix)

Because /intl/ won

technically superior is another word for bloat. Sup Forums works fine, you don't gain anything from adding more shit.

Nah, I should had probably worded that better. The one who did this was the owner of the current Gamergate board, AcidMan AKA Cole Lamberson. In the beginning there was the original /gg/ board run by NikiofDeath. At the time the dud was heavily involved with the GG community since it gave his site life.

Niko did an innocent troll by fooling people he would make a twatter troll a mod. The dud jumped in, took his own board from him (so much for freedom to just create another board huh?) and that was that. He gave the board back but the damage was done.

The next board was /gamergate/ and that was run by Bladee who was involved with an autistic clique of wanna be trolls who called themselves the AyyTeam who failed at trolling harder than Weev. Bladee had an autistic diabetic meltdown one day without warning and gave his board to the trolls. /gamergate/ went down with no survivors.

During this time there were polls on the Sup Forums board to decide which GG board would represent them. Mark, the owner of the Sup Forums board rigged the choices so only boards his clique liked would be there. His main man he backed was AcidMan who is possibly the biggest lolcow in imageboard history. The doxing and digging on him on the /cow/ and /baphomet/ boards are things of legend.

Acidman instantly set up a cucked rulebook for the board, instigated cross board raids and fights along with his buddies on the sub Reddit board Kotaku in Action and was generally a horrible liar. He also tried to get people to attack the community Voat which should have been where GG migrated to after Reddit cucked them out, but they didn't have the balls or foresight and AcidMan didn't like the people who posted there so he tried to raid it instead, and failed.

He most famously lied about being swatted which he used to justify doxing posters he didn't like and try to hand their info to the FBI. The dud surprisingly did nothing about an FBI snitch but trolling your own board was off limits.

Letting boards be run by people who tried to be twitter personalities and didn't know the single benefit of being user is where is all went so wrong.

>put together the worst features of reddit and imageboards
Gee I wonder. Terrible administration didn't help either.

exactly

too much moderation is what drove people off of here

too much moderation is what brought them back

werks for kc
although I just know /prog/

People keep looking at Reddit's "build your own sub" situation as some aspirational goal.

But that model only works because Reddit was overflowing with users and needed to offload them from the popular subs.

It's the same problem Voat had - introduce a system where there are tonnes of boards on a new site with a small number of users and all you get is a thousand people split across 20 boards for a common subject.

Quick rundown? Is it closed for good?

>Is it closed for good?
No

Fucking hell. Thought it was good riddance.

>heard about it a few years ago
>went on the site
>pedo content everywhere
>I left
>won't comeback, ever

kc only got big because new was deleted and most people agreed to go there

old habits die hard
people are just used to this site

Codemonkey is a tard.

>technically superior
No, that would be NNTPChan

This, also when they started banning tor, browsers that do not have http referrers, and applying censorship on their boards people started leaving it.

The story is like this. Hiroyuki Nishimura was tricked by Jim Watkins, a former military, who owned 2ch servers but not the forum itself. Watkins made a silent coup on Hiroyuki and took over his domain, then the 2ch owned by Watkins was hacked and was revealed he was selling data AND that Hiroyuki wasn't the owner anymore. Later on, Jim Watkins offered free hosting to eightchan's former owner, hotwheels, but during a mysterious DDoS to the website he deviated the traffic to a domain of his own, nobody noticed. He is now the owner of eightchan, the wheel guy is no longer the owner, just a janitor with high privileges (or not so).

Blocking the creation of more boards, avoiding the purge from bad mods and the racist groups that landed on Sup Forums, making a coup in Sup Forums and silently sending people to the other chan are the strategies of these assholes.

This is not an accusation against Hiroyuki or is talking about Sup Forums been redirected, the real scammer is Jim Watkins and the redirect was long ago done in 2ch and 8ch, not Sup Forums.

>archive.is/hcMn4
>One more step
>Please complete the security check to access archive.fo
Geee, thanks

Not as friendly to the much larger "shitposting moron" demographic.

>what is a web proxy

This is exactly what I am doing, I use a ssh tunnel to my server in order to browse the web and this is what I get when I try to visit that site.
They also ban tor so I can't use that in order to connect either.
I wish that people linked archive.org instead of this shitty site.

That site uses kikeflare. Screencapping is your only hope using your setup.

Many sites use kikeflare without banning every proxy and tor exit node in the world.

>Screencapping is your only hope using your setup.
Or linking directly (if the content is still up)
Or using archive.org
Or posting the text or something

>Or linking directly (if the content is still up)
>Or using archive.org
that endchan link is dead

>Or posting the text or something
Too big

As I said
>or using archive.org
Heck, even doing screenshot --fullpage in the firefox developer toolbar works as well.

>Too big
There are many paste-services.

Wait. Doesn't this mean that Hiro did nothing wrong?

this

>we're nothing like sjws, they hate free speech!
>we believe in reals over feels!

you're a lefty/pol/ baiter tho