War general

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War discussion general

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-161_Standard_Missile_3
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground-Based_Midcourse_Defense
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_High_Altitude_Area_Defense
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-135_anti-ballistic_missile_system
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-500_(missile_system)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon-class_submarine
m.youtube.com/watch?v=qqaRuzJhS3A
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What are your thoughts on the Mitsubishi A6M Zero is it a shit plane?

how do you think of SK military?

PLS BUY

Guess it was used mostly by the kamikazes, but it wasnt that bad for the time. If I'm not wrong pearl harbor has had a tough time with them

no

Would be nice
I hope my cunt buys

South korea got better in the past few decades, I believe they are well prepared for defending themselves against the north if shit hits the fan. But I believe the north would just nuke everything if something happens

How much do you people hear about the great northern war?

:_:

Pls do it, gib pesos.

Here? Not at all

Was it the war that russian waged against sweden in order to annex finland? After the fall of pomerania a lot of them left to brazil, I've met a quite few of them when I've landed here.
If that's the war I'm thinking about that's the war around the time the ruskies have founded saint pettersburg.
It's not that mainstream neither in south america nor in southern europe, but I believe it must be in the north.

I have a couple question about nukes.
Is it possible to stop a nuclear missile on its way? Like anti-missle technology exist or not??

And how large is the blast radius of a modern nuke.

Depends of the missile. Before the warhead stage, maybe. Usually is impossible.

Depends of how much KT.

ICBMs are nothing more than space-rockets with uranium inside desu.

Hello. Literal physicist here, look at the Cold War.

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Look at the Cold War.

You're on a serious track toward becoming borderline imperialist again. Socialism or communist is child's play compared to your government.
Freedom of speech? Ok, you can't even throw out garbage correctly.

You're fine.

It depends. They say they can stop a few missiles, but it's almost impossible to think that it would be perfectly stopped, since a nuke leaving russia could reach the united states easily in just a couple of hours.
Back in the 70's the nukes the soviet union was using for doing their tests had already reached the level of destroying the earth's atmosphere. So they and the united states tried to do their tests underground so they wouldnt destroy the earth. The blast radius depends on the force the nuke let's go out. I believe given the tech level they could've reach already, they could destroy the earth easily, so that's why the countries that already have the nukes are so much worried about the new ones getting their hands at them

Dumb. It doesn't depend.

Tell us more about it, then

What do you nigs think about the prediction that modified Ospreys will basically serve as replacements for tanks, transport helicopters, helicopter gunships, and troop transport escorts while having longer range and faster speeds?
quora.com/What-will-tanks-look-like-in-40-years/answer/Jon-Davis-10?srid=uDnhq

Mean that casualties will increase.

WAR WARNEVER CHANGES SAHHSHAHAHAHHAhAHAUEHUHUEHEUHEU

anti-rockets exist and other things too
until the nuke is activated its not that dangerous (will be a 'dirty' bomb then)

youtu.be/pxNOBhGp2WI

>MI-35 taken down in Syria.

BOPE's new camo for jungle warfare.

WWI is the most interesting war in history

At the start of the war the Japanese had the best naval planes in the world. It got outclassed eventually though

A nuke fly time is 30 minutes tops from central Russia to anywhere in the US, shorter time if it's Far East -> US West coast or if the nuke is launched from a submarine
it depends. on early warning and fly path

interceptin nukes became possible in late 60es-70es, USSR built first nuke-tipped anti-missiles that would fly to intercept inbound American rockets. This caused the US to tro catch up and initiate an ABM treaty. Anti Ballistic Missile treaty limited USSR and US to 1 ABM site. In Russia, it's around Moscow (and Sary-Shagan test area in the south, it's only used for testing and not wartime operational). In the US, it was someplace in the desert where they keep some of their nuke missiles.

in 2003 US exited the treaty, now they have early warning radars in Europe, missiles on Aegis ships that can try to intercept the nukes midway (though half of Russian nukes would fly through the Arctic), and they have Ground-based interceptors
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-161_Standard_Missile_3
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground-Based_Midcourse_Defense

there's bee na lot of testing, but all those missiles still sometimes fail to intercept single targets. Real missiles would fly in lange numbers and deploy false targets when they are in space. There's some talk even about maneuvering in space, though it's probably not used on current missiles yet.
US also has the last-ditch defence
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_High_Altitude_Area_Defense
this intercepts incoming missiles. very chancy because modern missiles use false targets on re-entry and evasive maneuvers in the atmosphere.

Russia still operates and upgrades the Moscow defence and plans to build local THAAD equivalent.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-135_anti-ballistic_missile_system
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-500_(missile_system)

we win at war we win at war we win at war haha you all suck and have bad countries that are also weak haha we would beat you haha

Great information, dude. Rare as shit finding some data like that here in Sup Forums.

Can you tell us more about your current operations? I guess everyone here knows you've been active with your military, but we never get to know how good are you prepared for the possible doom you could face if hillary gets ellected.

Are your warfare programs still that good as they were since the cold war?

Fuck yeah! I can't wait for the rebirth of imperialist Japan!

ABIN pls stop.

Not possible today, japan isn't capable of combating the same way they did back in the 1930s.

They might fuck up china but it will only go for so long.

Not brazilian dude, I'm just interested if I'll get to make it to russia just in case shit hits the fan in the next couple of years ladm8

Maybe they can ally with China and split up Asia together?

>shit hitting the fan
>going to Russia

Uh...

Looks like Thunderbird 2
Nice.

>ally with china
Nice jest.

The way obama had sucked dry the american military plus the fact their new recruits are overweighted fat women and transgender people scaries me a lot. If shit hits the fan in a nuclear situation, the only place I would rely on to save myself would be russia

Why would you go to a country where the most nukes will be pointed at?

Because the ruskie guy just said in other words they must be the only one with the means for stopping them

>one guy told me stuff on the internet, it must be true

k den

Looking their operations in syria you cant get some fresh air, good information never hurts. Even though what he said could not be the truth, they were the second country to develop nukes and at the end of the cold war they were the ones who had the most massive amount of them. If their programs are that good as they were in the past nowadays, their tradition would be something to count on, due to the fact the united states are almost going through a bad scene where ethnic conflicts are playing part, their morale has been low since the gulf war and their army tradition is shit since the end of golf war

>wants to talk about war and nukes, when other guy asks about information for a russian on that matter, mocks him for doing it

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The cartels are getting some nice equipment

Ok then, enjoy your nuclear war in Russia, senpai. Surely you'll survive.

Nah, I hope I'll die drinking vodka, pal. It would be better than dying side by side with fat trangender sjw people screaming on the streets

yugoslav wars were pretty dope

Tell us how good you removed kebab, Ivan

Yeah

was too young for the war. Grandpa was an uber commie (he was in the army), he actually got a stroke when he saw the news of yugoslavias breakup. no kebab remoofal from my family sadly.

I saw a documentary the other day about how the croats fucked good the bosnians. Don't know a lot about how the serbs were doing outside of their current borders back in the war times.

I know a lot of people that had experienced the war still have bad memories. Nonetheless the story behind it seems pretty cool

Same as during the cold war, russia has a few key areas where it's as good or better than NATO, but mostly the stuff is cheaper and in smaller numbers tan in the West.

Russia's STRONG at anti-ship missiles, naval self-defence artillery, all things air defense and electronc warfare, and Russian units are more suited to fighting a combined arms war against a modern army compared to Western armies, though NATO says it's going to try to even out there.

>It ain't me, IT AIN'T MEEEE

yeah war was mostly serbs bosniaks and croats slinging shit at each other, mostly about borders and shit like that. for instance theres a region in bosnia called republika srpska where mostly serbs live.

Can you tell us about the russian side of the story on what's going on in eastern europe right now? Nato is deploying some people in lithuania and some other countries if I'm not wrong. Putin has been missing the last couple of days. I know things are harsh down in ukraine, but I wasnt aware they could heat up up north

Can you talk about kosovo and vojvodina? Do you think serbia could have a social break down at any moment?

nah not really. i live in vojvodina and no one really cares about breaking apart. the farmer types are kind of pissy about getting exploited by belgrade and i guess for a good reason. but for now i dont believe theres gonna be a social breakdown kek. as for kosovo we couldve genocided the living hell out of the kosovar albanians but we got NATO and the EU looming over us so the politicians are decided not to have any military intervention in fear of getting bombed again. also our politicians are pussies.

nothing much, Eastern Euros being silly about Russia, NATO trying to pretend it's relevant and that Russia's a threat

those 5000 people in Lthuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland and Bulgaria aren't going to protect them from Russia if Russia was ever going to invade, but politicians feel good when they do stuff like that, it makes them feel like they're doing something useful.

In fact, Russia smends like 5% of what NATO is spending on military so we're not in any position to threaten, anybody can see that. that 5% will still be enough to wreck NATO's shit in case the West tries to "Iraq" us in the coming years.

Is tito that respected in northern serbia? I mean, every country in the old juguslavia think different about him, as far as I can tell. After the end of the war it just seems like you've never got up your feet again considering what I've heard from people about old jugoslavia. Your region has a wonderfull landscape and great people, I just can't understand why your unemployment rate is currently so low

It was an amazing aircraft early-on in the war, before better fighter tactics could develop based on improving technology.

It could outclimb, out-turn, and out-run many of the other planes it saw (mostly shitty Chinese biplanes borrowed from Russia). It also fucked the Americans early in the war, because it could easily outclimb them and out-turn them. It could even out-run many American planes.

It wasn't until better engines and faster aircraft were invented that the US could come up with the tactics needed to beat them.

They weren't really used as kamikazi aircraft, they were a dedicated fighter aircraft. Also, they were only really flying as cover for the dive-bombers at Pearl Harbor; they didn't really do much while there.

vojvodina i guess is peaceful and stuff, we have a lot of suicides though but its a chill area. as for tito people (usually older) remember him and yugoslavia quite fondly. as for the younger ones, most of them are not really informed nor do they care about yugoslavia tito or communism.

I don't get why they have wrecked you about that ukrainian thing. They have chosen to be annexed by you over a referendum, we never get to see that when the western journalists are writing their columns.
Brexit happened by a referendum too, but they didnt get the same threatment. I know krushev was drunk the day he gave the region of crimea to ukraine and it had a huge impact after the fall of the soviet union, but western media just ignores that, we never get to see your version of the story, never.
I would love learning russian just to know what your media says once in a while. Everything you do you are the bad guys, and in the west we never get to know what's your side of the story

I'M NO FORTUNATE ONEEEE

Why not stay in Brazil if WWIII happens? North America, Europe, and Russia would be fucked if that happened, and a nuclear winter might set in. Because of its climate, Brazil and the other tropical areas would probably remain temperate throughout that period.

Our media says the same stuff about the West that Western media says about Russia, there's nothing good on TV either in Russia or abroad, it's all about stupid generalization, bias and conspiracy theories.

Employment rate*

Is there any place near vojvodina where they still have some remains of the war? I know they have kept some places intact, but I'm not sure if things up north where that bad as they were in bosnia. That old footage of the stari most being destroyed is very emblematic, I guess your war was the newest of the big conflicts we had in europe

Russia Today has an English broadcast, and many American networks do carry it. Maybe they also have a Portuguese broadcast?

Also, I wish more people here would realize that Russia was in the right to take back Crimea. It had been historically Russian land for hundreds of years, and was only moved to Ukraine for administrative reasons, because Kiev was closer than Moscow.

If taking Crimea is illegitimate, then taking Texas was even more illegitimate, because we literally stole that shit from Mexico because some of our settlers moved there with their slaves, set up plantations, and seceeded when Mexico (who had outlawed slavery) told them to stop.

>nobody even mentions that mongolia posted ITT

am I going mad or is that one rare flagarino?

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I believe I would be back in europe if there would be a war in the near future, but if brazil loses its neutrality over the possible conflict, it wouldnt be able to defend itself in the face of a nuclear war, the country just dont have the means for it.
Your point about the nuclear winter makes sense, that's a fact, have to agree with you. But I don't know if the outcome of the conflict in south america would be that good in the social sphere, people here tend to neglect so many things, judging by the general behavior of the locals I would say most of the country couldnt cope with the situation despite the aboundance of natural resources and food avaible to them

Yeah, I believe krushev just let crimea go under ukrainian administration due to the fact that it is linked to ukraine by land. But the land has always been russian for the last hundreds of years.

The west shit their pants over russia taking crimea because it always was and always will be the most important strategical point all over the black sea. The west don't want russia having a place where they would have the opportunity of deploying their boats and armies that easily. So they would throw a lot of lies and biased opinions over our media trying to brainwash us agains the ruskies

We'd stay neutral either way. Independent on who's the next president, what we really don't need now is a world-wide conflict. We do have the capabilities to protect ourselves, but the govt should let the military act alone for that, without interfering in their programs.

Didn't got the end of your second point.

Brazil would choose to stay neutral, as it always do, but it doesnt prevent it from being invaded and used as a strategical host in the war.
Neutrality is something easily breakable if you considerer that during the war the laws tend to change, think about germany invading the netherlands in ww2.

>if you dont get to read things and think about what you say, get out of the thread instead of shitposting

by Chinese bases that put our former president I think we lucked out some of the third world war

>The Project 941 or Akula, Russian "Aкyлa" ("Shark") class submarine (NATO reporting name: Typhoon) is a type of nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine deployed by the Soviet Navy in the 1980s. With a submerged displacement of 48,000 tonnes, the Typhoons are the largest class of submarine ever built,
>Their primary weapons system is composed of 20 R-39 ballistic missiles (SLBM) (Operational range 8,300 kilometres (5,200 mi)) with a maximum of 10 MIRV nuclear warheads each.
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon-class_submarine

This is fucking terrifying, can you even imagine the destruction a single one of them can unleash?

The war would be concentrated in Europe/Asia. What's the point in invading someone in South America? Plus our military is pretty big and we'd be at full capacity(meaning everything in the country would be made for war, industry, personell etc..) any of the sides would have to make a massive cut on their forces to get to us.

Having a strategical host, dude. Think about the missile crisis the US had when the ruskies were loading cuba. Do you think the soviet union would have agreed to clear the load they were doing in cuba if there were not for the missiles the US agreed to take off from turkey? The reason turkey is a member of nato is the same reason russia and the US would want to take over an ally in south america, wether the hosting country agrees with it or not.

I can even tell you argentina could be the one starting the transition of breaking the neutrality, by the moment it tries to take back the falklands during the conflic, their leaders are sort of dumb anyways and they tried to do this in a similar situation 30 years ago. Brazil would rather be invaded or declare war over the nation that's losing ground in the conflict at the last minute of the peace talks

I still think that is quite impossible one of the sides drag the war down here. Unless China/Russia put missiles in Venezuela which it would lead to another Cuban crisis 2.0 eletric bogaloo.

Plus argentina knows that they don't have any chance against britain over the islands, their military got shitted on after '82.

Never realized how fuckhuge those things are.

>Be bro-tier whale
>Doing whale shit
>run into this fucking thing out of nowhere

If the war starts at a global scale, nobody will be safe at all. This time things will get really global, the united states wont be just selling stuff for the fighting forces as it did in ww1 and ww2, it will get some pearl harbor stuff in the mainland destabilizing military intelligent, and every fighting nation will get to make a lot of military mistakes, like italy did in ww2.

About the thing regarding people getting bombs in venezuela, that could be possible, very likely. By the time nukes are placed in south america, the combat could start.
If there's no neutrality, there's combat, because if you are at war and there's no neutrality anymore, people will get to attack you. And if you choose to stay neutral at a time people will be willing to invade you for breaking your neutrality because you have a huge amount of land, something very valued for military purposes, the war will get you as soon as you can imagine.

If ww3 starts, this time thing will get nasty at a level never ever seen before, no doubts about that

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I know shit will get ugly. just saying that were too irrelevant to someone want us as ally.

what a fat plane

Strategical host rather than a combatant ally. Logistics will be even more valued in the wake of a third world war, places for hosting military drones, loading nukes, keeping reserved ammunition etc.
South america has a huge amount of land used by nobody that would be geographically interesting for russia and the US.
I'm not saying it will be the main place where the war will be dragged on, but still it will be something they will take on account sooner or later

there wasnt any war in vojvodina durring the breakup of yugoslavia. the old bridge was in mostar where croats and bosnians were fighting. the light blue is the serb held territories and here is where most of the fighting happened.

I think it's pretty thin.

Well, if China wanted strategic places, i think they'd start in Central America where they have "supporters"(Nicaragua/El Salvador). I think it's pretty hard they try the *le let's be friends i give you money* on the South.

Interesting. Do you guys get along nowadays, or does it get some heat over what happened in the past?
I know your formal serbo croatian language have broken up in the following days after the end of the war, and every country have standardized its own language with a different name.
Can you all understand each other despite of that grammatical changes over the languages? How different does it get the difference among them?

The U.S will win the next world war and these dubs prove it!

No way!!!

oh yeah we understand each other. slovenian and macedonian are kinda different than the rest though can still understand 60-80%. as for the relations, things are still pretty tight. lots of frustration towards each other (mostly towards the serbs because we were major dickheads kek).

>were too irrelevant to someone want us as ally.

Brazil has the second largest armed forces in the Americas after the United States and you's dont really have many disputes with your neighbors. In the case of a global war, Brazil would probably lay dormant for a while as you wont be directly involved, but seeing your large military and close proximity to the United States, it's fairly likely that at a point, a belligerent on either side will probably seek you as an ally. Seeing as your countries largest foreign military suppliers are the US and her allies, I'd see you leaning slightly towards the US for friendship but it could go either way.

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noice

Yeah, that's my point over what I was saying to him. It would be just naive thinking that brazil would stay neutral until the war ends. Both russia and the US would try engaging them on their sides sooner or later. Specially if china enters the war as a russian ally, what is vert likely because they have stronger ties among themselves once brazil, russia and chine are BRICS members.
I may be wrong, but the south american situation could be very different this time compared to the last ones.

What's the most classical of the languages spoken in the balcans? Croatian is a little bit closer to italian, slovenian have some influences too, but the serbian population seems bigger, I don't know if you were the dominant culture in the balkans throughout the balcan history.
Can you tell us if the sense of nationality linked to the dialects spoken by your neighbours played some part in getting the heat up before the war have started, or was it just an ethnic conflic as it was portrayed by the media?

Aw man

I guess they will claim they won the war even if they lost or didnt play a huge part on the victory side. Look at ww2 and vietnam

heh nice banter brazil you really got us this time haha

Good gooood!

The U.S is coming for you Brazil!

m.youtube.com/watch?v=qqaRuzJhS3A

im not really educated on the subject but i think that all the languages from the ex-yu countries came from ancient slavic and formed over time. there certainly was heat based on language but i think there was more tension because of religion. also serbs try to use the cyrilic alphabet as much as they can while croats, slovenes bosnians use latin.