This is a thread for headphones and audio technology. Here are some basic rules >Make suggestions within the posters budget, form factor, and intended use >Please no loli waifus, regular waifus okay
That's it. Also some fundamental truths about audio >THD is bad, no exceptions, no one cares about the two studies that say otherwise >Hd600s have weak bass and no treble, and lumpy mids >Loudness curves are a meme
I use an equalizer, there's no point in doing frequency response graphs.
Also if you trust other peoples' frequency response graphs more than your own ears you're fucking retarded. The shape of your head, and thus the pressure that the headphones press against your head, is the biggest determining factor in frequency response between different headphones.
There's two exceptions here: Frequency response graphs can compare headphones of the same fit and can tell you where massive narrow dips or peaks in frequency are. But you can't look at a frequency graph in isolation and tell how much bass or treble you're going to get, because it depends entirely on the shape of your head.
Try it yourself. Listen to music and press in on the sides of your headphones. Even if it's only a little, if it's enough pressure to make the pads compress, it makes a massive difference in how loud the bass and treble are, because the driver is just plain closer to your ears.
The pads also retransfer some of the sound, more the further they keep the driver from your ears, and even more if you're using closed-back headphones. This is why pads made from different material have completely different sound quality.
Socks-for-pads would probably be better than the DAC shitposting and people actually unironically arguing about "soundstage". There's actually room to make headphones with an inherently flawed sound signature sound good by replacing the pads with something completely unexpected.
Jack Cook
Not that other user from last thread, but I too am in the market for a budget dac/amp (split or combo doesn't matter). Needs to be under 300$ USD total. Driving a pair of M50x headphones right now, though I want to upgrade next year to something better.
I saw the JDS Labs EL line promoted last thread over the schitt stack. I could maybe go 50 bucks over for the Element from JDS labs, but is it better than a modi2uber/magni2uber split dac/amp setup for 50 bucks less? I've seen lots of articles and reviews shilling for schiit products, but never even heard of JDS until /hpg/ mentioned it.
pls halp me spend my money, I'm bad and dumb, no bully either I'm very sensitive and might cry
Austin Long
There is one thing I don't get. You criticize hd600 for weak bass, and praise headphones with literal nonexistent lows as """best budget cans""". What is wrong with you? I know the difference here is that one is $300 and other one is $50, but you are still shilling literal meme phones, which only got popular because shitlord Zeos made some poorfags who never owned decent headphones buy those.
Hudson Anderson
Hard to beat the schiit stack for the price. Can't comment on the jds labs though.
Cutoff is 40hz for these, decent bass up to 48hz. Much flatter midrange than Sennheisers, treble is their biggest problem because yeah they're bright as fuck. That being said, EQ could easily fix them up, they have a wider soundstage than the meme600s and like you said they're 1/6th the price of meme600s while being much easier to drive.
Joshua Richardson
>I could maybe go 50 bucks over for the Element from JDS labs
I can't recommend the Element, though if you don't mind going a bit over your $300 budget, I highly recommend the NFB-11.28.
Thomas Bennett
glomf
Samuel Campbell
>dt990 arrived today >they sound like absolute shit compared to hd558 i'll never doubt you again hpg. drum, voices and guitar sections sound completely muddied and snuffed out, i'm never buying V shaped headphones again. i'll probably sell these later and buy a pair of HD600/6xx by the end of the year.
Asher Anderson
take off the pads, post results
Levi Hill
>NFB-11.28 I did a google search and it took me to this website that looks like it was built back in the 90s and everything is in kanji, wtf is this?
user, please don't troll me. This website is scary and I don't trust it. I'm just going to stick with the uber schiit stack to be safe.
Landon Rodriguez
Don't bother with the jds labs stuff. Get the schiit stack.
Jack Perez
What are you running them with?
Gabriel Gray
>meme600s
How is it possible to be this wrong? name a better headphone at a similar price right now.
Wyatt Moore
Headphones are subjective, but the shills are calling them the best headphones at any price range
David Miller
They sound like shit compared to the 558? jesus fucking christ, those headphones are absolutely disgusting. Surely the 990's aren't THAT bad?
Save up for 600's or just get the 6xx if you need to spend less, or just want them quicker. Both absolutely destroy the 558.
Robert Phillips
600ohm DT880s, hifiman 400i or 4XX massdrop edition, monoprice 1060s with a mod that takes 10 minutes to do involving a piece of felt and some tissue paper.
HD600s are a dead reddit meme.
Elijah Anderson
It's obvious that they're at least one of the best, and when were talking about it's competitors that mostly cost a grand+ it's easy to see why people would say that. I've never tried anything over £300 so I wouldn't know, and I'd never want to spend that kind of money on headphones alone.
Sebastian Watson
Heh, it does look like a website straight out of the 90's, but it's a legit business. Pic related, the one I bought from them earlier this year. They're located in China, so their English isn't the greatest.
It's quite a bit better than the Schiit uber stack, but it's up to you. I think you'd still be happy with either one.
Daniel White
>600ohm DT880 Just no. There are much cheaper headphones that are better than this hissing garbage. AKG k612 pro for once.
Jeremiah Martinez
They sound like shit when not run properly, but are bright headphones nonetheless, so that may also be an issue.
Gabriel Evans
> DT880s, hifiman 400i or 4XX massdrop edition
All wrong. I'm not even going to comment on a monoprice headphone. Just because reddit likes a headphone, it doesn't make it a meme you mong.
Adrian Campbell
You're wasting your time with that tripfag. He's got some obsessive hate against the HD600 and shitposts 24/7.
Ryder Gonzalez
>no argument >defending reddit OUT
William Gutierrez
Better than those shills who don't even own the headphone
Zachary Johnson
They're are known for having a really weird website but they're legit. I'm not sure that thing will sound any better than the schiit stack, and it's huge on top of that. If you already own a stack I honestly wouldn't bother, you have a fantastic setup.
Brayden Cruz
SMSL M6 it does sound a little better, but i don't know if it's because i upped the volume on my amp and lowered the volume on windows, putting the pads back on, and i'm pretty sure it was because of upping the volume on the amp. i'm surprised they don't feel as comfy as the 558s either, or maybe i'm just overreacting to change.
Christopher Fisher
I don't go to reddit, and I can easily identify things 'being reddit' aka shit. The fact is that the 600 isn't one of them youabsolute retard.
Nicholas Cook
m8 you go back ad fourth with your trip and you go bltfo last night when shit loads of people responded with pics of their 600's. Are you mentally ill? or is it just autism? I'm being serious, be honest.
Mason Reed
What sound card do i get with my meme600s?
Nathan Ramirez
then you should've identified your own post, because it belongs there kiddo, now fuck off and don't come back
Grayson Gomez
Are YOU autistic, user? Lurk more
Gabriel Turner
You bought v-shaped headphones and you don't like v-shaped sound signature. I'm not sure what went through your head when you decided to buy those. It's the same way for me, I can't stand anything that is not relatively flat. That's why I don't buy v-shaped headphones anymore, and any that I had are stuffed in boxes. I know there are some ways to "mod" dt990 to change sound signature slightly, you can try removing this thing that protects drivers from dust from ear side and see if it does anything for you. But likely you just blew your money on something you won't use.
Ian Moore
>2 people responded with hd600 pics >The 3 other shills didn't own the headphones >One stupid fuck compared his gaming headset as an equivalent.
Lincoln Cox
Also if you want to get BTFO'd with a screenshot so be it, I'm not that user >Inb4 inspect element I'm on a phone.
David Bell
Gotcha. Fuck me you're weird.
Isaac Flores
Being surrounded by flux and solder does that.
Lincoln Carter
Stop being mean to plebspotter-san
Leo Cook
>Three pics from two non-shitposters and a retard >Actual shill doesn't even own the headphones he's shilling >Gotcha. Fuck me you're wierd
Bentley King
Never been there you clown. Get triggered by a pair of headphones some more you autist.
Levi Rodriguez
I responded to a paranoid anti 600 weirdo with a pic of my 600's. Stop being a twat for the sake of it. What's the point? what is your actual goal here?
Carter Foster
He's a shit posting tripfag, this place is better without him.
Lucas Price
Why are you so angry? Are you new here, user-kun?
Nolan Watson
Whatever makes you feel better :^)
Chase Cruz
>I'm so ANGRY Then filter him out, you autistic newfaggot
Jaxon Baker
I kinda like his shitposting. It's cute how he triggers the shills super hard. They're so transparent and autistic they fall for even the lowest hanging fruit.
Luke Hughes
Not angry at all, and I rarely come here, or Sup Forums for that matter, but I have been here for a long time. He's a shit poster, replying with 'lol ur mad' makes you look like a 19 year old.
Aaron Morris
Nothing is more autistic than being a tripfag on 4 chan, that dedicates himself to 'triggering' people who own a specific headphone. Fucking hell lmao.
Grayson Brooks
>I rarely come here, or Sup Forums for that matter Seems like you rarely come to Sup Forums at all. Now stop being angry and filter the tripfag instead of crying out so much
Been here for many years. 'both' of you have no argument.
Liam Morris
>Dedicates himself to triggering ***owners*** 3/4th of Sennheiser shills don't own the headphone though.
Also my purchase advice is on point.
Isaiah Rodriguez
You didn't have an argument in the first place. If you don't like me just filter me fuckwad.
Jaxon Young
>'Both' of you have no argument >Gets irritated by the tripfag >Doesn't filter out the tripfag >Gets called out on for not filtering out the tripfag >No argument >Inb4 I was merely pretending
Hunter Moore
Yes I did. My point was that you're a shitposting autist who can't stand a specific headphone that happens to be brilliant.
>fuckwad
You have to go back.
Wyatt James
Then why not just filter out the tripfag?
Camden Ramirez
>"Brilliant" >Measures like trash and is hard to drive >Claims to have filtered me >Keeps responding
Dude are you okay?
James Gray
>3/4th of Sennheiser shills don't own the headphone though.
You literally don't know that, and it doesn't make any sense. Even if it were true, that would make them weird shit posters just like you. So who fucking cares.
Oliver Hill
>Brilliant headphone >Literally known for no highs, sounding veiled and muddy, and having a headband that snaps when removing them
I'm dying.
Adam Turner
>Brilliant >Inb4 doesn't actually owns the headphone I don't see this shit with any other headphone brand
Hudson Cooper
>Dude are you okay?
Again with the reddit tier response. I don't have an agenda against an electronic device. I'm good f.am.
Nathaniel Moore
It's known as being one of the best headphones in the world. Stop looking at your graphs and listen to music.
Thomas Hernandez
We do know that. We've had about half a dozen anons over the past week shill endlessly for the hd600s and they didn't even own the hd600s. Only 2 people confirmed owning them with pic and timestamp one of which was idol trash. Plenty of people came in and claimed "I've owned hd600s/650s for x amount of years the headband has never broke" and then when push came to shove never posted a pic+timestamp.
Ryan Williams
>Stop looking at graphs Tell that to the one Sennheiser shill
Aaron Evans
>Reddit tier response >Saying not an argument when he had none in the first place
That's why you don't know how to filter me and keep responding, buttblasted sperglord.
Sebastian Nelson
Can we finally end the Sennheiser vs Beyerdynamic shittalk?
>Yes, Beyers have excessive treble >Yes, Sennheisers are overpriced
Fuck.
Noah Bell
>Stop looking at graphs >That almost have a direct correlation to how a headphone sounds
Jesus Christ what sort of retardation is this.
Christopher Reyes
But no one has mentioned Beyerdynamic yet, user
Evan Wright
Oops, my bad. Am late
Mason Phillips
You have good taste, sir. Here's a few of my own favorites.
What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?
Adam Nelson
Kill yourself you poorfag
Carson Reyes
I went from SR60es to DT770s. I don't think you understand what "excessive" treble means.
Evan Hall
Whatever snaps the best.
Hunter Gray
>Ulrich schnauss >Boards of Canada >Flashbulb
Mah nigga :^)
Samuel Butler
I don't want or need to filter you. Like I said i'm not on Sup Forums that often unlike you, and I pretty much never respond to you, but I'm drinking and having a good time so who gives a shit. Every single time I come here, you're here having an argument with someone about the 600's. Get a grip ffs.
Thomas Lopez
This has been debunked.
Leo Sullivan
>I don't know how to filter you Fixed that for you :^)
Nicholas Richardson
>having an argument You mean losing an argument. Reminder that he STILL doesn't understand HRTF.
Eli Powell
And poorly sealed :^)
Dominic Myers
The 600 is actually the second best, behind the 650
Dylan White
I second this
Charles Morales
>We do know that. We've had about half a dozen anons over the past week shill endlessly for the hd600s and they didn't even own the hd600s
It's an anonymous board, you can't know that, and besides, surely anyone who posts positive shit about the 600 without owning them is taking the piss, aka, they don't like the 600, or 600 owners. so what is your actual point? Either ignore the obvious shitposters who are anti 600 like you, or have a discussion with the ones that seem genuine like me.
Jonathan Cruz
warosu.org/g/thread/S61762083#p61771121 >claims to be "actively cleansing" /hpg/ of HD600 >his shitposting ensures that the only thing /hpg/ talks about is HD600 and obviously encourages praising the HD600 because he always replies to it
Adrian Powell
I like to have an actual discussion, I don't hide behind childish responses.
Anthony Flores
That fucker always posts the same shit and never replies to pic + timestamp replies. We know, user
Brandon Thompson
>Being this buttflustered >Over a headphone he doesn't own
Nolan Jenkins
What headphone? did you reply to the wrong guy or what?
Jonathan Robinson
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1. Click on the [Settings] link at the top or bottom of the page 2. Click on Filters & Post Hiding 3. Click the [Edit] link next to Filter and highlight specific threads/posts 4. Paste !WKOEehnYmc in to the box underneath pattern and tick the Hide box 5. Click Save, and then Save Settings
You now have a cancer free /hpg/ experience.
Owen Wood
Kek. At least you showed that dumb newfaggot how to filter.
Jeremiah Foster
Hey, no need to be rude. He's just trying to have a good time, like the rest of us.
Grayson Allen
Sorry senpai
Colton Watson
And of course he doesn't respond to me. You were right, the guys either a terrible troll or actually autistic.
Brayden Sanchez
Holyyy ahit /hpg/ I had a few of them IKEA hotdogs on sunday and now my shit consistency is shifting between mineral spirits and thicc mucus. My are is so raw you could facet cut a diamond with it,the rim of my toilet on unfortunately in the danger zone so I need tp clean it EVERY goddamn time I think its because my anus is at a weird angle. Also I have like 4 1 inch+ hairs at both my nipples and kneecaps.
Anyway what headfone is best for me 200 euro max.
Landon Perez
Used HD600 or HD579.
Brayden Powell
This is true. The only reason Tyll used to recommend the HD600 over the HD650 is because of the $100 price difference there was between the two. Now that they differ by only about $30, there's no need to feel reluctant about purchasing the superior headphone: the HD650.