Can the internet stay free?

>media calls something evil
>government agrees
>companies agree
>its banned from discussion
>its banned from search results
>its banned from storage providers
>its banned from domain registry

Its cool to ban nazis from the internet because they deserve it amirite? But what happens when other subjects start getting banned? Is anyone else worried?

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No, we're fucked. We've been fucked.

It's already happening.
You can't even hold a negative opinion on gays without committing social suicide.

this is why we need to fight back from the oppressive liberals

yesterday Jason Kessler got attacked and had to flee from a lawfully permitted panel, the police did nothing and the people were not arrested. the left cheered this as good, because "fuck nazis" right? well im sure theyll care once it starts happening to people they agree with. its a dangerous precedent to set

Stop supporting products that do instead of being a battered housewife.

>holding a negative opinion on gays

>watching twitch
>use the word fag in a friendly manner
>get permabanned by the broadcaster

boy do I know it

I'm legitimately curious what assassinating a bunch of wrongthinkers would get from the media.

Suddenly those evil Sup Forums nazis don't sound that insane amirite?

gays aren't cute in real life
stop posting

>launch a free and independent website on a banned topic
>will never show up on search results
>will never be accepted by domain registry
>will never be accepted by hosting companies
>can never post about it on social media

Okay, I'll post pieces of paper with an IP address around the neighborhood. Fuck those evil companies, right?

What's next on the list of wrongthink topics now that being conservative is verboten?

>anything bad about islam (probably banned in europe first)
>anything bad about gays
>anything bad about trannies
>anything about evolutionary biology
>anything good about white guys, religion, or traditional life

That's not true if they're cute.
youtube.com/watch?v=8ZLuJwwnGpU

Moderates would be next on the line

Who gives a shit? It's just internet.

>Can the internet stay free?

The Internet was never free you turbo dingus.

Saw a post earlier about a distributed/self-run FOSS search engine. Anyone have info on that?

Sound argument. Caring is for faggots, lmao.

Its a mental illness that we foster because of them piggy-backing off of civil rights in the 60s.

Instead of making gay marriage legal, they should've bumped up civil union rights to that of a marriage certificate and made marriage just a religious ceremony. Instead, we re-elected a moron because of these politrix.

The obvious conclusion.

Right or left. People will look for a place where they can be freely heard and express opinions.

The more the State revokes those basic rights under some bullshit "Business can do what it wants. Just use another business " (Because denying a cake or dress worked soooo well.)

So people will turn to "Free" software. Freedumbs will be revoked on software, the surveillance will begin anew with the "violent left/right" needing to be monitored.

More they monitor the more the resentment grows. More resentment means more NEED for free software and privacy/security. The State and the Media will crack down hard.

So all of Sup Forums loses, no matter the spectrum.

How do you ban free software?

Yeah that's a good idea about the civil union but it's not a 'mental illness' as it's not classified by the DSM-V which is an utter shitbook anyway.

It's just a fetish at worst and a union between two people at best. It's the other side of the same coin.

Searx?

fetishes used to be a mental illness too
honestly, it was just easier when these things were still in the DSM.

They'd do it through ISPs.

Why would you ban free software?

>nihilist

You make it difficult for normies to find and implement, thereby keeping a fringe tool that can never overpower government regulation. You make "safe" alternatives that are easy for normie. This is how netflix and itunes actually managed to succeed.

Never said banned. That'd be a bit much wouldn't it?

But ensuring that you can monitor and record everything (Patriot act) or even get your grubby mitts onto the source of anything that's a different story.

There's no need to ban everything, that'd be impossible to uphold. But allowing it to continue and gathering the information until we become full George Orwell.

Yes yes, source code can be checked because it's free. But do you think half these fucks check the source/kernel? Nope. Probably filled with backdoors or unsecure protocols.

Shit just look at the Intel Management chip

I don't understand what this has to do with free software.

>Its cool to ban nazis from the internet because they deserve it amirite? But what happens when other subjects start getting banned?
> Implying leftism isn't 21st century fascism and they won't start banning everything they don't like.

There's a reason why our founding fathers (who would be considered "far right" nowadays) were libertarian and hated leftists.

>it's a Sup Forums attempts to talk about computers episode

Still doesn't help with the extreme cognitive dissonance these people go through to be in a relationship due to conflicting traditional viewpoints from society.

Doesn't really matter, they're leaving the gene-pool anyway. Maybe they'll pay a slave to have their baby from an Asian shithole, maybe they'll raise Steven or Jamal they adopted. Either way they're gone.

I think he's saying that all foss is a lie and all freedom software is a dormant botnet waiting to strike. Fair and reasonable.

They removed it in the 70s due to pop culture, but biology is the same today as it was then.

It's actually a great thing. As we already knows the Internet sees censorship as a network issue and will route around it. In the end it benefits the whole network which will become more robust. And the undesirables will pave the way towards a truly free, anonymous, secure and distributed web.


>implying
I agree, stormweenies are probably too retarded to figure out how to make themselves uncensorable.

yeah that thanks

Biology is nearly the same as it was in Roman times and much longer before then. BIOLOGY isn't an argument.

Free software has lived before the Internet, it could survive through other networks, the sneakernet, and user groups.

>stormweenies are probably too retarded to figure out how to make themselves uncensorable.

right? they actually thought being on godaddy was a good idea

Pretty much.

We lot can be paranoid and check the ports, firewalls, daemons, services, protocols, and source code all we like. But there's always suspicion to be had on something you can't verify. (Why I don't eat at fast food places)

The main issue is Normies. Honestly, have you ever tried to convince a normie not to use Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc? They accept censorship all too willingly, which will ENABLE more of it. They don't use IRC or check for security flaws, so everything becoming Corporate Proprietary bullshit won't phase them in the least.

We can always get unfucked, but I don't see it happening. I see civil war.

normie here
normie there
NORMIE HERE
NORMIE THERE

I assume the point of your post was to point out I used the term Normie?

I mean what else can I call them? Normie summarizes it pretty well. I suppose I could say "The technologically impaired" but that's a bit much to type for my lazy ass.

I need a janitor to clean up this hatespeech please

Look, its a mental disorder, period. Now I guess its called "gender dysmorphia", but its the same tree. And yes, biology is an argument because of our reproductive systems being what they are.

I agree, he was just asking how. I'm personally all for a cyberpunk future personally.

It's not even in the DSM-V. We've been over this. You're opinion is literally subjective and not supported in anyway by literally anything other than it compromising a reliably small percentage of society.

Prove it's a mental disorder, you literally can't.

You didn't listen.

>Know two Cyber security personnel who work at two different firms.
>Good guys. Know some shit.
>Still use all Social media, weak passwords, and implement patches without running them on a secured sandbox first.

I mean they're probably shit at what they do I know, but the point is that there aren't enough people like us for that to become anything more than a pipe dream. If people who know their shit ignore the risks what of the others who don't?

Think CCTV nanny state rather than good ol' cyberpunk.

Sup Forums doesn't listen, they just tell, which they were told to do by their authority
they do what's fashionable at the moment

Gender Dysphoria isn't homosexuality. It's the rejection of your own body not what would be deemed natural sexual tendencies.

I have a theory that gender dysphoria is largely environmental. Ever notice how mtf always have fucked up parents?

Maybe my own genital dysphoria I experienced when I was five was caused by my mother's own sexual dysfunction and dysphoria towards penises or something just as weird. A five year old shouldn't feel extremely uncomfortable showing a bulge in a spiderman costume.

The actual sale of disks will be relevant again. People will buy black market dvds with forbidden freedomware. USB drives will be banned by the US post.

nigger just host one at home and on Tor

>Its cool to ban nazis from the internet because they deserve it amirite?
This. It's especially useful when those banning the nazis get to decide who's a nazi in the first place.

>Waaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaaah! Private corporations won't list my political website because they disagree! Muh rights! Muh rights!

This is a free market, dipshit. If you want it differently make it differently.

wtf i love google now

>T. some faggot who doesn't understand business or tech.

wEw

You're right, they're different. I was speaking in general regarding the term as it traces back in the DSM to what was originally Homosexuality.

Anyway, it isn't natural but rather environmental and pushes us further towards the fate of the Romans. Europe calls a spade a spade, and we fail to do that here.

>This is a free market, dipshit.
No it's not, retard. You're not free to hire who you want, you'r enot free to fire who you want, you're not even allowed to sell what you want to who you want. It's about as far as you can get from a free market.

Yeah, totally. I forgot we live in a totalitarian deep state, thanks for reminding me, you fucking exaggeratory nutcase. When is our great president finally releasing the assigned corporate production quotas for this year?

>don't like this international corporation making billions of dollars and millions in US grants using censorship and social enginerring
>LOL THEN MAKE A BUSINESS TO COMPETE WITH THEM
wow now I can change the world

So if Facebook started banning BLM pages would you just not give a fuck?

not to mention google has been CIA from day one

Woah, don't cut yourself on that edge now.

>Is anyone else worried?
They should be. This is how it starts.

Not him, but he's right y'know.

But he isn't though???

the only bad thing is the media giving attention to these mentally ill idiots. no one would care or even know about trannies or fags if the media didnt shitpost about them every day.

Everybody's already moving to TOR, i2p, and Urbit.

that's absolutely retarded when it's not a last resort as you're more easily slandered as a terrorist/pedophile, it's not nearly bad enough for that yet

Nah it's time. The normie web is for cucks, boomers, libshits, and retards now.

Best to move to anonymous, secure, and distributed platforms now, and en-masse, so there is momentum and so there will be broad resistance if (((they))) try to SHUT IT DOWN.

Also remember to run your shit on non-Intel architectures.

Good. That means our plan is working.

The same way we managed to get safety regulations on newer cars, market normal software as being the "safe, secure" version and make it seem like free software will fuck up your computer for good

>Prove it's a mental disorder, you literally can't.

>the ultimate goal of every individual in every species is to reproduce and pass down your genes
>due to changes in their brains homosexual units engage in mating that biologically can not lead to reproduction
>effectively it's a destructive behaviour that eliminates the individual's and reduces the species' chance of succeeding in survival
>a condition that reduces the chance of survival is illness
>an individual that does not contribute to the survival of the species is a parasite
>homosexual behaviour is caused by changes from the norm in the brain
>homosexuality is mental illness
>homosexuals are mentally ill parasites

Congrats, you've realized that any weapon you use can and will inevitably be used by your enemies.

Everything is going according to plan.
The internet from the very beginning was probably thought out as a tool for societal control.
After being on Sup Forums since 05 it's clear this place is a psyop run by TBTB to gain intel on people and sway public opinion (psychic driving).
If you don't do something about this now your descendants will not only have to live with the burden of your failings, they probably won't even exist.

Not planning on having descendants, so that argument holds no sway with me.

Checked.
>forced to bake cake
>but others can revoke domain name for hurting someone's feelings

The double standards are endless.

This

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Recommended viewing for any one.

youtube.com/watch?v=6ACa539myFk

I didn't realized that Sup Forums pro-nazi.
What happen with all those faggots who keep saying "my grandad fight in WW2"?

I didn't realize that anything to the right of antifa (which reminds my grandfather of the brown shirts, or so he says) was considered a Nazi.

In all fairness both sides do it (e.g. everyone right of Reagan is a commie, everyone right of Pol Pot is a nazi)

I don't give a shit about what's wrong or right, that still doesn't answer my question.
I'm just curious why Sup Forums suddenly pro-nazi like in OP statement.
NK or US can nuke each other tomorrow or Trump became the new Fuhrer, my view on the world wont changed.

It's just Sup Forums leaking from it's containment board.

Neat. But the people you are calling Nazi's aren't National Socalists. You would need to combine Bernie Sanders with David Duke to get that.

You want me to be disgusted with those people? Ok. But I don't know anyone who is like that, and haven't seen anyone that is pushing for that shit.

I'm not overly political, and I'm sick of this shit infesting this board, but that's just the fact of the matter.

>But the people you are calling Nazi's
OP was making statement about NAZI site getting banned, not me.
Holy shit.

Seeing as how you didn't link a post, all I could do is go off of what you typed. I'm against National Socialism. I don't buy into the ideology. That said, any weapon that you use against an enemy will just be used by them when they inevitably achieve some sort of power. If you don't think Nazis should be able to censor you, then you shouldn't set the precedent by censoring them. I'm of the opinion that the ideology of any kind of socialism is stupid enough to where they should be allowed to say whatever they want. They discredit themselves.

They were libertarian because they had just been under an alt-right system and went overboard with the anti-authoritarianism.

>If you don't think Nazis should be able to censor you, then you shouldn't set the precedent by censoring them
We just going in circle here.

How is this going in a circle? Me being against censorship doesn't mean that I support Nazis.

>current year minus 300
>alt-right
What?

The nazis were known to be anti censorship

The nazis were known for their opposition to censorship

What I'm saying that is Sup Forums was never pro-nazi, no matter the cost.
Nigger sayer, yes.
Misoginy, yes.
Goyim troller, yes.
You gotta be shitting me, Nazi germany was pro-freedum?
Like they never tried to burn shit they don't like?

>The nazis were known to be anti censorship

>The nazis were known for their opposition to censorship

Blatantly false, which is likely why you didn't cite a source for your claim.

historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi-germany/censorship-in-nazi-germany/

>Censorship was rampant throughout Nazi Germany. Censorship ensured that Germans could only see what the Nazi hierarchy wanted people to see, hear what they wanted them to hear and read only what the Nazis deemed acceptable. The Nazi police dealt with anyone who went outside of these boundaries. Censorship dominated the lives of the ordinary citizen in Nazi Germany.

Jesus, this board is fucked.

Tech companies have terms of service. If users willingly break the terms of services, they risk getting banned. If people wanted a true free speech platform, maybe they should try building their own. GoDaddy and Google had all the justification they needed for not allowing The Daily Stormer to operate off of their services. This isn't a matter of first amendment rights, this is a matter of terms of service. If one service doesn't suit your needs, find a different fucking service.