What in the fuck is this shit?

This... this is a joke right?

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theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/16/daily-stormer-forced-dark-web-reddit-facebook-ban-hate-groups
news.vice.com/story/neo-nazi-site-the-daily-stormer-moves-to-the-darkweb-but-promises-a-comeback
fortune.com/2017/08/15/daily-stormer-moves-to-dark-web/
usatoday.com/story/tech/2017/08/15/neo-nazi-website-daily-stormer-retreats-dark-web/569758001/
m.slashdot.org/story/17/08/15/2031222/neo-nazi-site-the-daily-stormer-moves-to-dark-web-after-shutdown
mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/16/us/daily-stormer-russia-domain.html
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What's wrong with it?

>child porn, slave rings, gun running, cocaine, meth, and heroin sales?

Just fine

>snarky racism?

NO WAY JOSE

So kiddie diddlers and drug dealers get a pass, but people with political beliefs you disagree with don't?

who cares really. go be butthurt about your ready to install "anonymity" being an lgbt project somewhere else son

Are you illiterate?

We have a thread for tech politics

>We are disgusted, angered, and appalled by everything these racists stand for & do. We feel this way any time Tor is used for vile purposes.
wtf is this shit

we need to fork tor and rebrand it now

they did literally nothing but write a blog post chasing headlines

Just them jumping on the bandwagon of virtue signaling to hopefully get a slice of the fame and popularity cake for ousting the latest boogeyman.
More fame and popularity = more donations = more money for them to fuck around with.


But in the end it truly doesn't mean anything becuause:

A) Most of the actual developers doesn't give two fucks, it's the higher ups who does
B) Even if they did they couldn't do anything because of how TOR works on the fundamental level

>we can't build free and open source tools [...] if we also control who uses those tools.
>Tor is designed to [... prevent] anyone from censoring things, even us.

do you have a valid complaint about the tor project or are you literally crying over them having an opinion you disagree with?

>how TOR works
You realize these are the people who MAKE tor, right? They can embed anything they want. Like the backdoor that was unknown for over a year that shut down the first silk road

holy shit they're getting DESTROYED in those comments and they're even commenting back

>were allowed to change

Are you? Stupid fuck.

No, it's smart as fuck. Because you know after articles about the alt-right moving to the darkweb, you'll hear Tor mentioned and suddenly, non-techies want to contact Tor and ask why he supports racism. This same thing happened to Cloudfare - the makers of Tor are just preemptively making it clear that they do not endorse such content and have no way to control it (unlike Cloudfare, who did have the ability to control their sites).

kys faggot.

did the little special snowflake get offended? aww

i fixed a bit their tweet

Everyone who posts the bullshit needs to bite a bullet. The reason that you never see the Tor community shitting on drug dealers and CP is because Tor has already shat on them extensively. If you idiotic stormfags learned to read and read the documentation, you would see them shitting on what you're complaining about.

torproject.org/docs/faq-abuse.html.en
torproject.org/docs/faq-abuse.html.en
torproject.org/docs/faq-abuse.html.en

Read a book, nigger

OY VEY

>While we support freedom of speech, [...]
>proceeds to list reasons why they don't support freedom of speech

It's just Sup Forums that saw a tech related thing and thought to post it on a tech related board. Same thing happened on /sci/ when Bill Nye did his tv show.

Hello liberal brainlet, did you know that there was already nazi websites on tor since long time ago? they are just playing the good boys to go in the trend, is not only hypocritical but plain bullshit so brainlets like you eat it whole

You know how normies have to compulsively "Keep up with the Joneses" when it comes to life and how others perceive it? This phony virtue-signalling is the corporate equivalent.

>ideological websites are the same as illegal activity websites
>muh thoughtcrime

>did you know that there was already nazi websites on tor since long time ago?
Yes. And Tor was still against them.

I don't care if Tor announces that they are against Nazis. It's common sense to do so. I'm glad that Tor announced that they are against Nazis, just like YouTube has and how several other people in tech have. Even Spotify and CloudFlare have stood up to white nationalism, and I am extremely glad that this has happened.

The person I originally quoted was implying Tor project didn't care about CP or drugs. The documented that I posted proves that the Tor project does indeed, care about CP and drugs.

>phony
Yeah, because for alt-right fucktards there's white people who agree with you, and white people who are only pretending not to secretly agree with you. God forbid someone actually doesn't support your ideology.

so virtue signaling is more important than chase all the crime websites i guess
100 good boy point has been deposited in your virtue signaling account

I just think racism is stupid!
Damn, looks like I'm a white supremacist now because I think racism is stupid.

>Even Spotify and CloudFlare have stood up to white nationalism, and I am extremely glad that this has happened.
Why do you care?

Tor is incapable of removing the illegal content that is hosted using it. That is the job of law enforcement. Tor has already took a stance against the illegal content that you are complaining about, just like how it has taken a stance against white nationalism.

> hitmen, forged passports, bombs, money laundering, hacking services
human rights!!!
> people saying things you don't like
wtf no!!!!

That is the problem you fuckwit. TOR shouldn't be taking stances on ANYTHING. Just shut the fuck up. You look more and more retarded with each post.

>TOR isn't a dark ops project from the NSA, Navy, and FBI to traffic children to government officials, fuel the drug war, and to find blackmail information on possible threats

You're one stupid piece of shit.

That's just one of the drawbacks of anonymity. Do you want the government to know everything you do?

>God forbid someone actually doesn't support your ideology.
When they announce their "feelings" for maximum coverage, you'll have to forgive me for not believing them.

BTW, I'm pretty a-political which means both sides hate me for not picking a side.

It was the 2nd silk road.It wasn't a backdoor. It was an exploit. They knew about it but didn't do anything because it was only entry nodes and a research team took credit for it. So they didn't think they were actual going to use it to get people's real identities. They patched it within a few days after they figured out the "researchers" were actual fbi contractors that launched a real attack on the network. They now no longer give academics the benefit of the doubt. The same attack wouldn't be possible today.

Honestly...given the alt right stance on net neutrality and regulations in general, this makes sense and is totally in line with right wing dogma.
TOR is a privately coded service, at least the plug-ins are done in house by some group. Why should they host something they don't want? They should have the right to disassociate? Ergo if they don't want to have WN stuff floating in their pipes, they have that right to clean it out, and it's yor responsibility to either start or find a network that tolerates your browsing habits. Just like how a company shouldn't be required to bake a cake for a gay couple, no? Just make your own version of TOR from scratch.

Why should they? They're simply adhering to right wing principle and freely acting as an operation instead of being bound by some regulation? This is exactly what the right wanted?

both sides are equally fucked, you are either getting ripped off by Prime Minister Douchebag or Mafia Boss Boris

>Honestly...given the alt right stance on net neutrality and regulations in general
Namely being or is this a strawman?

Sup Forumsor when

>develop a similar network to one developed by the U.S. Navy and the NSA

Sure, I'll get right on it.

Fucking Christ you childless autistic shits should be euthanized.

middle and brown guy are high

>if you say something bad about pedos you can't say anything bad about anyone else

Man, why is the right so retarded?

>TOR shouldn't be taking stances on ANYTHING.
no, they HAVE to take a public stance on these things by appealing to public opinion so when government want to ban tor, like china has effectively been doing for years, the project will have public support to hopefully dissuade overtly authoritarian politicians who are in favour of censorship
I do like the irony in complaining about virtue signalling by virtual signalling yourself

That's quite an exaggeration. I don't think the average user will come in contact with organized criminals easily just by using TOR, unless you can show me you can. Even then I think the government has far more potential for harm than criminals do.

>tor literally says "we aren't going to do anything to bring down daily stormer as we believe we can't undermone our service"
>brainlet adolfs can't read beyond 140 characters

Right agrees that net neutrality is bad and ISPs selling and regulating traffic is good because they own the lines. Same difference with TOR regulating who does what with their service...
I mean, that's your problem, not TOR'S, lol. They aren't obligated to cater to you if you go by right wing politics.

Regulations are for lefties.

>no mention of policy changes

Looks like a standard PR stunt to me. If they don't preemptively make the call, eventually some SJW pissants will start accusing Tor of being a hate speech project run by fucking white males.

The Internet gives terrible people a very easy and safe way to ruin others' lives on a whim, and that is a fact of life. No use in ignoring it.

because racism is a bad thing stupid

TAKE A SITE DAMMIT

TOR isnt going to get down because is a literal fucking honeypot
>hopefully dissuade
what a shitty excuse seriously, but what i can say about liberal mental gymnastics

>Same difference with TOR regulating who does what with their service...
tor can't regulate what they do on their services, that's the difference m8

dumblet can't see the obvious pathetic virtue signaling. where is the blog post and tweet about all the other crap ? they don't exist.

>master race
>can't compete with 9-5 govt workers that aren't even dedicated to their jobs
Topkek

>So kiddie diddlers

You believe that?

night night alt-reich
your day of the rope is coming soon
but for now you have to go back
stop Sup Forumsluting

The actual truth is that net neutrality is ineffective garbage and the real solution is just to always make it so that anything taken with eminent domain is always 100% open to everyone and no single person technically owns the line but buys temporary rights to connect to it so that actual competition surfaces instead of the Government and Corporations cooperating together to MindRape people for their stuff.

lol, expecting left-wing organizations to defend UR FREEDUMBS OF PEACH

>so when government want to ban tor, like china has effectively been doing for years
This isn't China. For that to happen both sides of congress are going to have to agree on it, and it would have happened by now considering there's already worse things on there than loser neo-nazis larping on the internet.

It's purely for PR, but anonymity shouldn't be a politically motivated position.
I don't think they do agree on that. The right is rather dissonant at the moment, but because right wingers have been getting screwed by major platforms they've been crying first amendment a lot. Republican congressmen however are against net neutrality I agree.

this kind of shit is hilarious. there are all kind of shady crap in tor, even child porn and drug dealing but they are unironically witch hunting a few white guys for saying "innapropriate" things. hell, as long you don't hang anyone you can not like blacks, asians, women, fags or whatever, and I say that being a fucking negro

>80% of The Tor Project's $2M annual budget came from the United States government, with the U.S. State Department, the Broadcasting Board of Governors, and the National Science Foundation as major contributors,[155] aiming "to aid democracy advocates in authoritarian states".

Lol

>where is the blog post and tweet about all the other crap ? they don't exist.
Whataboutism.

ah yes I too am a black person on this anonymous website
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
>Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

>implying that a lot of illegal activity is not just thoughtcrime
dumb Sup Forumsac

>the project will have public support to hopefully dissuade overtly authoritarian politicians who are in favour of censorship
this is a great joke
the public will turn on tor as soon as the news starts to spew bullshit about how they support shit and noone will care if they denounced it publicly because the population is too dumb to read shit just look at the retarded google memo thing
the public believes what the news say and tor will be dead the second the news turn on them

Literally in the replies of that same thread you fucking retard

>big news media story
>thinking their PR will just stay silent

They did the same shit when Scully got arrested. And when Ulbrecht got arrested. But again, you're too retarded to read more than 140 characters. Just kys.

Tor does not block right wing sites.

Are you implying that tor does not protect those who create and distribute child pornography?

lel bunch of hypocrites...

But that's not surprising, leftists are known for drug abuse, molesting children and occasionally murdering people they feel are a threat to them.

They can make it difficult for people doing things they don't want done with their service, and that's their right as a private group. Going by alt-right politic, that is. Someone who wants to TOR should just build a new service or find or build a new TOR client. It's not TORs job to hold everyone's hand and equally make access easy for everyone, just like how it's not the government's job to hold the people's hand and distribute welfare to everyone.

because he is a proponent of the popular stance of "You are guilty until proven innocent, and silence is agreement"

moot is dead, user

That's the nice part about rights, they're unbiased and apply equally to everyone. You wouldn't understand that because you're a retarded nigger.

>Just make your own version of TOR from scratch.
What is open source.
What is fork.

For now

whataboutism is a deflection technique. i am not trying to deflect criticism from racists but rather asking where is the other criticism ? the reason it doesn't exist is because they are hypocritical virtue signalers.

show me the big headline stories that implicated Tor ? there name was non existent in the articles.

The tor client is foss, the only way to block these sites would be to blacklist them on the client. Removing the block would be extremely trivial.

Sup Forums doesn't know about free software.

Do you not understand how tor works? They can't block anyone from using the service thats the whole point behind hidden services.

Exactly. People itt complaining are as lazy and useless as lefties. It's not TORs job to hold their hands, and if they legitimately believe they've lost "free speech" because of this, they're mistaken. The truth is that they're too lazy to build a client and make their voice known. Literally lazier than lefties.

if you don't think public support of tor matters when the government comes to put it on the chopping block what's your position then? that everyone should do what your nanny state government tells you to do? tor is one of the few places that dailystormer can continue to exist and you're attacking it because they said something you don't like

>because is a literal fucking honeypot
then it's no different from it being hosted on the clearweb, except dailystormer keeps getting kicked off of domain name registrars

>the public will turn on tor as soon as the news starts to spew bullshit about how they support shit
this is true, this is why tor has to be pre-emptive in expressing disapproval of this site before anyone starts to warp opinion of them like plenty of people in this thread are doing, it's an uphill battle, that's the price to pay for lack of censorship

>long hair
>not drug dealer

>they are unironically witch hunting
The post literally fucking says:
>But we can't build free and open source tools that protect journalists, human rights activists, and ordinary people around the world if we also control who uses those tools. Tor is designed to defend human rights and privacy by preventing anyone from censoring things, even us.
This post isn't pandering to liberals like Mozilla does. It's telling them, in their terms, that they aren't going to sacrifice their principles to appeal to liberal politics.
Tor already has an uneasy public reputation whenever normies hear about it. The difference is that because drug dealers, child porn fappers, etc, are already criminals, they can't be held ethically liable for the actions of people who disregard others' rules and laws. Hate speech is perfectly legal, so it makes sense that they have to reassure liberals they don't mean harm before some idiot university students hear about what Tor is and sic the lynch mob on them.

I can ignore everything else about Sup Forums, but this I will not tolerate. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but no one is entitled to their own facts.

>They can make it difficult for people doing things they don't want done with their service
do you have any idea how tor works? the tor project has no control over what happens on their service, this is literally by design

People itt are complaining about TOR denouncing or blocking stuff. Only way would be through client. If client actually blocks, then that just means anyone blocked that can't figure out how to get around it is someone who didn't deserve to speak anyway. Again, it's not TORs job to hold people's hands.

hate speech is undoubtedly illegal in the united states literally what the fuck are you talking about

You're rather upset, did one of your kidnapped kids escape?

Doesn't TOR still receive most of its funding from the United States Navy? If that is the case i seriously doubt that it will be shut down any time because it gives them plausible deniability to keep conducting spy shit in the TOR network and play it off as criminals doing it

Fine, legal in the first world. Point stands.

This thread is uncomfortable active.

A lot of people seem to be complaining about the drug dealers, I'm actually curious, what are your thoughts on drugs? (Cannabis and alcohol included)

I'm a straight edge faggot but I'm just wondering.

>hate speech is undoubtedly illegal in the united states
[citation needed]

They can block at client. This is what I presume people are potentially up in arms about. Anything else is just pointless bitching and not actual Sup Forums related discussion, since we all know a bypass is as simple as a fork of the client.

>People itt are complaining about TOR denouncing or blocking stuff
the people complaining about tor blocking anything are wrong, tor is not blocking or censoring anything, they've only expressed an opinion on dailystormer, they explicitly said they cannot censor them
>If client actually blocks
it does not

theverge.com/2017/8/15/16150668/daily-stormer-alt-right-dark-web-site-godaddy-google-ban
theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/16/daily-stormer-forced-dark-web-reddit-facebook-ban-hate-groups
news.vice.com/story/neo-nazi-site-the-daily-stormer-moves-to-the-darkweb-but-promises-a-comeback
fortune.com/2017/08/15/daily-stormer-moves-to-dark-web/
usatoday.com/story/tech/2017/08/15/neo-nazi-website-daily-stormer-retreats-dark-web/569758001/
m.slashdot.org/story/17/08/15/2031222/neo-nazi-site-the-daily-stormer-moves-to-dark-web-after-shutdown
mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/16/us/daily-stormer-russia-domain.html

>I'm a fucking retard that never heard of googling what is the internet?

Fuck off back to Sup Forums

I hope they will soon start aiding democracy advocates in the US :^)

Are you retarded?

>They can block at client. This is what I presume people are potentially up in arms about.
by their client I assume you mean their open source browser, they could do that, but they haven't, they haven't said they will, and they have never blocked anything in their browser before, there is literally no precedent of anything like this happening, and while something like this happening would be a dangerous precedent to set it's a what if question and has no basis in reality

Hate speech isnt.
Any speech which incites violence is.

Ergo it's alright to shit on a race, but you can be jailed if you call for genocide or assaults and don't explicitly disclaimer your statements as being a quote from someone else, or you talking in jest and making satire.