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>In some ways, Linux was the project that really made the split clear between what the FSF is pushing which is very different from what open source and Linux has always been about which is more of a technical superiority instead of a — this religious belief in freedom.
>There are 'extremists' in the free software world, but that's one major reason why I don't call what I do 'free software' any more. I don't want to be associated with the people for whom it's about exclusion and hatred. >-- Linus Torvalds
Benjamin Anderson
What the hell, kid. Seriously.
Chase Gutierrez
In this exhibit you can see the stallmanist suffering from cognitive dissonance as he learns the truth behind his beloved false idol.
Noah Peterson
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Alexander Allen
TALK TO ME GNU/oose!!!!
Dylan Clark
You are asking people to give up their values, of course you are trying to divide people. Free software (as opposed to just open source) has the same goal. Rather than allowing proprietary and free software to live together in harmony, GNU licenses seek to infect every codebase they live in, rejecting every line that does not accept their personal definition of free.
Jack Sullivan
>>>/flt/with your friends.
Ian Young
>GNU licenses seek to infect every codebase they live in, rejecting every line that does not accept their personal definition of free. This is indeed the best hack rms gave to humanity.
Isaac James
Why don't you grow a fucking brain, you pathetic imbecile.
Jaxon Taylor
>post OC memes on r/linuxmemes routinely for a while as a test >never fails they wind up being posted on Sup Forums and in /fglt/
Reddit is awesome. You should stay there. btw I just created a plebbit account just to do the shit you said, but over there. Why? Because you're a dick. That's why.
Levi Sullivan
Kill yourself faggot
Christopher Wood
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Hudson Rogers
REALLY like xfce. hade KDE. used to like gnome but now i want to change it even on my main laptop
Evan Peterson
Ohboy. Now I gotta create 17 reddit shit threads for that one. You're really really incoveniencing me.
Jaxson Campbell
>Now I gotta create 17 reddit shit threads for that one What is that mean?
Christian Baker
This thread is kinda dead now. Guess I'll go over to reddit and be a complete fucking asshole and see how many people's day I can ruin. And you know what? Reddit dicks actually deserve it. They're generally shitheads, amiright? And what's the deal with those retards all seeming to think that once something's been on reddit, it should never ever be posted anywhere else? Like they fucking own it now or something. Anything from reddit carries the taint, but they don't own fuck all. What a bunch of fucking shitstains. Fuck reddit. Fuck redditors. Fucking brainless hivemind semi-literate grammar nazis and misinformed fact checkers and upboat karma whores. Fucking dicks. Every single one. Reddit fucking sucks.
Elijah Brooks
He doesn't know how to start a plebbit thread.
Grayson Nguyen
I'm on Linux Mint 18.1. The update manager shows a kernel update, but I haven't been doing it. Do I really need to update the kernel? I thought that security updates were backported to older kernel versions.
Daniel Cruz
yes....
Jordan Reed
x.x.the third numbers are drivers and other features. the final 4th is patchlevel ~security and bug fixes. But I've been using arch for about two years and have never had an issue with a kernel update with "update everything" or even with manually installing latest stable ubuntu mainline kernels.
John Anderson
so fresh install of arch and the text/icons are too small to read at a regular distance. I installed xorg-xrandr and used it turn up my DPI but it didn't really help. For the record I have HP Pavilion 22bw
Gabriel Baker
>arch. I meant linux mint.
Leo Williams
thanks
Liam Nelson
You can also delete old kernels from the view > kernels window of that update applet, but it's not a bad idea to have a fallback kernel.
Ethan Thomas
Thoughts on Qubes? How long until you will consider it a usable OS for day to day activities?
Luke Nelson
It's already usable for day to day activities. You just need min 8 GB's of ram for it to be decent at it. All those independent instances gobble it up.
Xavier Cook
hi, what do I need to unlearn from vim to use vi?
Jace Nguyen
every shortcut.
Bentley Myers
Does anyone know how to add persistence (on a USB) to live kali linux boot? On Mac osx
Gabriel Russell
Does someone have a guide to using Gentoo with the minimal c stage3?
Ayden Cook
You can't do this with UNetbootin?
Isaiah Green
I'm using Debian Sid. What are the top worst case scenarios I must be equipped to deal with in case a crucial "brown-paper-bag" bug slips through the cracks?
I'm not a newbie but I'm also not sure if I have what it takes to deal with the worst yet.
Pls no "have backups" responses, I've got that covered.
Should I just have a liveUSB with Debian on it, or what?
Luke King
I've been going through the links in the op trying to find a distro to start with, but I'm struggling.
I'm looking for something as lightweight as possible that can be installed without internet. I read on the fglt website that debian can be light, but I'm installing on a shitty laptop, and I'm worried that my hardware won't be supported. From what I've gathered I need internet to install arch/gentoo. Should I just get Mint since it's retard friendly and try to remove as many packages as I can?
Ian Davis
>try to remove as many packages as I can Bad idea, specially if you don't know what you're doing.
Just get Lubuntu and call it a day. Or Debian with LXDE if you're feeling a bit more adventurous. LXDE is a great mixture of retard friendly and lightweight on toasters.
Justin Gonzalez
I need some help again. I think my problem is just that I suck at iptables. I'm trying to transparently proxy every connection from my computer to the internet through Tor, and I'm trying to do this with iptables rules. Everything seems to work like it should, my ipv4 and ipv6 traffic both get routed properly and non-routeable traffic gets dropped. My only problem is getting TorDNS to work. I have it running on port 5353, and iptables should be forwarding all traffic to the default 53 port to my TorDNS port. And this is where it gets weird, iptables really seems to be forwarding my address lookups to TorDNS because when I kill Tor, I cant look any addresses up. But I can't resolve .onion addresses at all, and sites like dnsleaktest.com show me my ISP's DNS server. What the hell is going on and how do I fix this?
Does installing Steam and proprietary nVidia drivers defeat the purpose of using GNU/Linux?
I'm curious if VAC is installed on Linux and if the nVidia drivers run telemetry like on Windows.
Mason Rodriguez
Basically just getting your packages in a state where apt refuses to do anything if you don't fix shit but it won't dl stuff to fix it because you haven't fixed it yet. And that case you can fix by either opening aptitude and choosing one of its suggestions or grabbing and old version of the troublesome package from snapshots.debian.org and using dpkg -i to install that.
Easton Ramirez
stallman would argue it's against the point, but linus wouldn't personally i'd say that the point is that you can do whatever you like with the software, and that includes running software on it that doesn't allow you the freedom to do what you want with it basically, you have the freedom to choose
Jace Walker
1. Don't install official NVIDIA drivers, they were good once ago, but now Nouveau is leading.
2. If you want to use any propietrary software, just put it into sandbox such as firejail. Then you can be sure it isn't going to get out out and use telemetry.In other words... SANDBOX EVERY PROPIETRARY SOFTWARE YOU HAVE IN YOUR POSESSION!
Jack Hernandez
>Does installing Steam and proprietary nVidia drivers defeat the purpose of using GNU/Linux? I see you have been taken in by the exctremist libre rants. Only a minority of linux users use it because they are triggered by proprietary software.
Adrian Walker
>Don't install official NVIDIA drivers, they were good once ago, but now Nouveau is leading. That isn't true at all.
Joshua Flores
>1. Don't install official NVIDIA drivers, they were good once ago, but now Nouveau is leading. unless something has changed recently, this is only true for the free AMD driver, not nouveau
Sebastian Sanchez
(amdgpu-pro = proprietary, mesa = free)
Grayson Foster
An OS that requires 8 Gb of RAM to work? And people bitch at Windows. Why?
Carson James
Ah, I kinda see (from the wiki page), compartments, Chinese boxes.
Jeremiah Murphy
Anything I should change to boot Linux? I had a problem starting it on a PC, maybe I did something wrong here.
Robert Diaz
>telemetry What telemetry(tm)? Stop using buzzwords created by proprietary software to make collecting data sound better.
Nicholas Garcia
Stop using Linux Mint. Install Ubuntu with Cinnamon.
Cooper Rogers
1) Why? 2) Is for work and I was asked to install Mint
Christian Gray
Because it's a shitty downstream distribution which doesn't contribute anything apart from bugs and problems. You are using an outdated Ubuntu for no reason.
Kevin James
Whatever, I still have this problem to deal with, Mint or Ubuntu.
Nathan Allen
BIOS/UEFI problem: you didn't choose the device to boot from or the priorities are messed up.
Landon Gray
The Linux Mint boot menu works, I start the thing and it stops working giving me that no signal thing while displaying a bunch of lines like "No Caching mode page present"
Christian Adams
That feel when you finally write a bash script to convert your space-consuming flac files to ogg. Never felt the need to learn bash before.
Zachary Lopez
>- Good for you friend. Maybe next time it'll be more than a one-liner
Michael Hall
reeee that was just stallmanquest retitled
Joshua King
Do you guys have any idea what going on here? I'm trying to boot off USB
Nathaniel Butler
>"I want/need things that are always guaranteed to work out. I don't care about the details, I just care about whether my needs/wants are catered" >egodystonic >very dependent Ubuntu
>"I love to impress my family, friends, colleague and acquaintances. I have too much confidence in myself. I'm also trying hard to be a l33t haxor" >prefers to wear shirt that are one size less or shorter pants >is most likely a manlet and doesn't wear socks Kali
>"I like uptime more than anything else and I prefer to choose things that are known to work than going against the flow" >prefers the road most travelled than unknown shortcuts >outgoing Debian
>"I am a phantom in the stage people call 'world' and I like to use tools where I have total and absolute control over and be able to use it to its maximum" >have total control of the 4th dimension called time and is very flexible when making tasks >is most likely taller than average and have a very hunky body and husky voice Gentoo
>"I am one step ahead of everybody else even with this imperfect human body. I can get things done at the end of the day - it's all that matters" >probably below or above the average BMI >very impatient and likes to do/fix it as fast as possible "begin last, finish first" is their favorite saying Fedora
>"I prefer simplicity and most of all the beauty in the little things that matters and matters not" >have total and absolute control over ego and desires >optimal physique and very precocious while having a cute voice TL;DR u r a qt Arch
>"I prefer to get things done but I don't want to deal with everyone's problems. I am a centrist. >just get shit over with >probably don't care about what is blabla or what isn't blabla OpenSuse
>"I prefer to use technology for working or personal reasons and be able to use simple tools that will get the job done fast" >most likely a developer or an underground fucko >knows their shit though *BSD (except osx)
Christopher Bennett
After 30 mins it booted in and its slow as molasses, mouse movements take upwards of 10s to register
Actually now it's just completely frozen
Nathan Collins
What did he mean by this?
Xavier Wilson
How good is wine for playing visual novels?
Luke Cook
Do this is the power of Linux in the desktop, I spent almost 20 mins filling out the installer info at less than 1fps/10s and now that it's installed it's just as slow on my SSD I don't even know what to say
Sebastian Collins
has worked fine with the few i've tried
Adam Myers
That he really doesn't give a shit about anything other than the freeness of software. Even things like social conventions, worthless. The freeness of art? Irrelevant. World hunger? lol.
Blake Anderson
fake and gay
Hunter Johnson
He does send some silly mails though.
Tyler Cooper
Just realised I don't need wine anymore, so I removed it and all lib32- packages.
» sudo pacman -R $(paclist multilib | cut -f1 -d' ') error: no targets specified (use -h for help)
I guess it's safe to remove multilib now?
Charles Perez
I'm looking for a FOSS code analyzer in the likes of Locmetrics, any recommendations?
Nathan Howard
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Carson Bailey
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Angel Lopez
H-hey /fglt/!
Is there a low bloat e-mail client on GNU+linux I can use instead of mozilla thunderbird?
Preferably with the option to import my accounts from thunderbird.
Julian Harris
mutt?
Leo Perry
Does it support newsgroups too?
I forgot to mention that.
Zachary Thompson
please re submit your question with the right information
Thomas Campbell
Is there a low bloat e-mail and newsgroup client on GNU+linux I can use instead of mozilla thunderbird?
Preferably with the option to import my accounts and subscriptions from thunderbird.
Bentley Gray
claws-mail is nice
Carson Long
Anybody else having problems with the last wine update on Arch? Tried a few things and 2/3's of them give "Floating point exception". Downgraded to 2.14-1 for now and everything works just fine.
Isaiah Foster
Why aren't you using gtop?
Jonathan Nelson
Looks like it would cause a 50% CPU utilization itself.
Evan Cruz
Okay, that is it. I was shilling unity and shitting on kde just a week ago, but now I am done. What is the best distro with kde? And I am not very fond of upgrading all the time.
[spoiler] KDE global menu when?[/spoiler]
Luis Bennett
>cant kill processes from list
Leo Bennett
systemd 234.11 leaks >memory
>Sid why >implying testing
have you noticed moar ram used for nothing recently
Sebastian Mitchell
openpepe according to Sup Forums folklore
Michael Martinez
So, I had been using Antergos for about 8 or so months and it just shit the bed so I'm looking to use this restarting as a chance to potentially switch to a different OS, anyone have any recommendations? I've gotten gradually pretty familiar with Linux and it's workings but I still do wanna learn more. Anyone have any OS recommendations?
inb4 install Gentoo
highkey not tryna dedicate my body and soul to linux
Robert Garcia
if I want to run just Debian with i3 and no DE, what crucial things will I need to replace? Pic kinda related
Gabriel Gutierrez
KDE is a metapackage. Basically a list of packages. Make package manager list what metapackage pulls in Copy paste the obvious deps and the stuff you know you want into cli install command, and let your package manager sort out the rest. When I used arch, there was a full kde metapack, a lite version, and separate kde-games and such metapaks. There was a way you could get pacman to install the metapaks and then delete the metapackage itself without removing the packages it pulled in. I've also seen the same idea detailed for other distros, but don't remember the exact commands.
Joseph Bell
>have you noticed moar ram used for nothing recently No. Should I? Everything is fine apart from wine-2.15-1
Isaiah Cruz
I want to put a lightweight distro on an old laptop with an i3 and 4gb of ram so my mom can browse with it. What's something that's secure that I can setup once and forget about it? Preferably something that'll update automatically. I was considering Lubuntu, Zorin Os, or PcLinuxOs.
Joshua Murphy
>shitty downstream distributions (except for Lubuntu)
Install Ubuntu on it and forget about it.
Carson Clark
arch is a stepping stone
Jonathan Bailey
>giving your mum 13
Austin Mitchell
>Just say NO TO DRUGS, and maybe you won't end up like the Hurd people. >-- Torvalds, Linus
Dylan Kelly
>implying he likes any kernel other than his own
>"I claim that Mach people (and apparently FreeBSD) are incompetent idiots."