to replace discord you need to have a program that
>you can upload files to
>has a text chat that saves chat history so when you open it again, you will see what you missed.
>voice chat
>phone app, linux version, windows version, mac version
does it exist, Sup Forums?
Mumble has all of that except saving a chat history, and I think you could mod a server to do that.
does it respect your freedomz?
Telegram
Yes
Also, mumble's voice codec isn't shit like discord's is.
Yep, it's GPL.
Delta.chat
tox has all that
Sounds like Wire to me.
Is voice chat any good. I use it as a messanger and quite pleased thia far. Never tried calls.
Telegram's encryption is shit. You are literally better off using WhatsApp than Telegram.
Hardmode:
>Minimal setup required
>Actually has people using it
>not using IRC
Does Wire have voice?
>you can upload files to
Wire can do this. I just tried sending an entire movie through it. At least in theory, it works.
>has a text chat that saves chat history so when you open it again, you will see what you missed
Wire does this
>Voice chat
Wire has this, both in groups and person-to-person. Ditto for video chat
>phone app, linux version, windows version, mac version
Wire is on Android, iOS, Linux, Windows, and Mac, yes.
Wire is also open source, encrypted end-to-end with fingerprint verification, and looks very nice. Oh, and you can make voice/video chat show up on the call log of iOS. Don't know about android.
Voice and video, yes.
We should make one. I'll start on the logo.
I thought they both used opus
They do, although whatever mumble is doing, they're doing it better. Also mumble's voice detection is way more configurable.
Wire is unstable garbage in groups, stop shilling it until they fix that.
I haven't had any issues with groups on my mobile (iOS), or on desktop regarding text. I haven't tried voice/video chat on desktop, because I completely disabled my built in webcam and mic with wirecutters, and don't have any interest in investing in 3rd party shit when my iPhone works just fine.
Who the fuck even uses Wire
Not him, but, to be fair, OP didn't say that a certain number of people needed to use it.
IRC with a bouncer, some random pomf for files.
Something like mumble can do voice if you need that.
Yeah, Skype.
i ackchually made an ajaxy self-hosted irc frontend that can do all of those things (except for voice because mumble and apple because i can't into ios development). it works fine, all my friends are using it instead of hosted botnet shit for chatting.
Slack have voice chat yet?
I thought skype died on Linux.
Riot
Theres plenty of messengers that have all of these. The problem is that none of them have that "server" model with multiple text and voice channels for a single community. You either get that model (with actual servers) with something like Mumble or Teamspeak or you get a proper messenger layout with things like Riot or Wire or whatever, never both.
They're asking my mobile number, I give up. Discord is trash.
wire
literally riot. Its better than discord in every way, doesn't spy on you, can be connected through irc as well, and has upload limits of 100mb
Wire app
Mumble
Retroshare.
this meme is cool
Yes but does mumble have [spoiler]emojis[/spoiler]
Riot with it's user base of under a thousand lmao
Telegram
Yes.
We even have our own web gateway, check out totallysafe.website
>Discord, with its userbase of millions of annoying, useless faggots ERPing.
Quality over quantity is the heart of the issue user. If quantity matters that much to you, please head on over to Reddit, they have vastly more users than Sup Forums.
Hipchat does all of that, and can be private servers or cloud hosted.
Matrix WAS supposed to be a literal alternative, but matrix/riot has always been severely lagging behind discord in features for a year or two
Their protocol is still in draft form, last time I've checked they don't officially support group voice chat (riot doesn't count because it's doesn't conform it's own specs)
On top of that, sponsors have pulled the plug on matrix a month or so ago because of it's slow development, and now it depends on free servers and patreon handouts
>Riot doesn't count
It's the flagship client furthest along at supporting all facets of the protocol, and it is what you would normally recommend somebody use when accessing the Matrix network.
If group chat works on Riot, it works, regardless of whether other clients or the official spec is lagging behind the actual implementation.
It always depended on other people, it's a distributed network.
By a few updates it might be able to get voice chat and a sub group thing like discord
After that it basically wins
Discord now has video chat and screensharing.
blog.discordapp.com
Who gives a fuck, talk to people irl you autist
sorry cant use mumble due to cracks and pops still going on
discord has it too, but not as much
and guess what
ts3 does not have it.
Most likely not everyone you talk to online lives within walking distance. I talk to people on the other side of the world all the time. I can't afford to keep taking thousand-dollar plane trips to Frankfurt and back all the time.
Slack. If you want to use an alternative to slack calls for voice chat you can use mumble or teamspeak, which by the way also meets all your criteria for a discord replacement.
>If group chat works on Riot, it works, regardless of whether other clients or the official spec is lagging behind the actual implementation.
It's almost like XMPP's history never taught anyone anything at all
Not having proper specs/standards makes it harder for other people to contribute
So now you're locked onto Riot/Synapse, which are both subpar (synapse has 1 GB of ram in requirements, is this a joke?)
>It always depended on other people, it's a distributed network.
It has gotten this far because it had paid specialists working on the protocol, clients and libraries
Now they barely have enough money for one dev working on it half-time
They couldn't solve the group voice chat problem for two years now and with funding cut, they probably won't solve it at all
WIRE.
I could not make a more cancerous video if I tried. Fat paki, chink bitch, cucked white men who get to appear after the diversity parade
Yes. IRC.
1 - use an external image host or irc network's one
2 - use a bouncer, read logs
3 - connect multiple people to a network filesystem and upload individual voices. Then use mp3fs or ffmpeg to transcode and/or merge into one audio stream and play it.
4 - irc works on everything.
Mumble needs a UI refresh.
Discord uses Opus. You can't really get much better than that.
Dendrite is still being developed, as is Ruma at the moment. Synapse isn't too bad either, it just demands a lot of memory.
The project is still being developed, Riot is still getting new features, and Matrix itself works fine.
This. Fucking this
Voice chats is good. Calls are even better than Whatsapp. Never tried discord though
wait did MUMBLE COPY TS3? holy shit they look identical
That's really a lot of unnecessary legwork, IRC is truly stuck in the 80s
Even if you use a bouncer, most clients don't work very well with it (e.g. you can't easily access backlog the way you can in Riot or Discord)
Use a bloated client with that then.
Yes, proprietary encryption is way better than FOSS, user.
Retard.
What's the Discord icon supposed to be anyway? Is it supposed to be a controller?
I always thought it was some big eyed Miku at first glance.
Post a picture of your uncucked white self so we can see an example of a truly alpha white male.
Skype
my only issue with wire is lack of f-droid app. it has been brought up to them and is on their 'roadmap' but it's been a long while with no word of it actually happening
I use it as a secondary chat after Hangouts, I try to migrate my friends to it periodically.
irssi + tmux on a server you don't shutdown is pretty solid
why does everyone hate discord so much its actually really good quality
It's literally a chrome browser with voice chat, except it's privacy intrusive.
Because it's not libre and actually good, so it managed to grab userbase of the dying Skype while all open-source projects were eating paste, killing any hopes for libre communication in next 5 years or so
This is Sup Forums, not Sup Forums, we care about free software, privacy, security, etc. It's not just about how cool it looks or how 'well' it works.
how is it privacy intrusive? ive been using it since day one and have had no issues. also met two of the developers at a furry convention and they were super nice. and i dont think discord has big enough of a user base to go completely botnet
I want to start using Mumble but I doubt my normie friends would actually switch to it
Wtf, you should get your eyes checked my dood. Beside black text with white background, there is nothing identical between the two.
>I don't think discord has much of a userbase
Honestly wanted to believe this post wasn't bait despite the red flags before, but now...
>It's not just about how cool it looks or how 'well' it works.
haha hell yeah bro
*makes another desktop/battlestation thread with pictures full of redundant garbage just to make the subject look better*
>also met two of the developers at a furry convention
Are you retarded? Mumble is light and godlike. The only difference between it and discord is that discord has bots, emojis and a permanent chat. And you have all this shit on facebook which also has a desktop client which is 99% similar to discord since they're both electron based. Electron is bloat desu.
Wire is another good alternative, but also electron based.
See this pasta:
reminder
puu
.sh/xa1Zb/64de0cedfb.webm
and you'll notice it's not a proprietary goober fest in those threads either.
do you need me to show you the door or can you find it?
Aesthetics are not unimportant, I'm just saying free software and functional software are important as well. In desktop threads you see people working to make things look better and work better, and generally they're using all free software to do it, on a really good operating system. Discord is built on garbage with a decent paint job. I hope you can see the difference here. I'm not gonna speak for battlestation threads, I think leaving the realm of software makes the comparison too sloppy.
you forgot video call and convincing your friends to switch to another platform which most likely wont happen
Video call is what's going to kill the platform though. It uses an incredible amount of resources. It will be a few months at most before ads show up.
how many normies have you seen using discord? no one did when i was in highschool and i have yet to see anyone at my college even know what it is. yes it has a huge presence online but who do you think the target demographic is for data scooping? its normies. theres more of them and they shop more. big companies like google dont give a shit about fat neck beards that just watch loli porn.
i hate to break it to you but im not trolling about that one. i seriously did. i said it more as bait but it did really happen.
>aesthetics of a voice client are important
Not really though. Mumble and teamspeak pretty much nail it.
I was more arguing for desktop threads than anything. I'm on the anti-discord side of this.
You should stop now, no one is going to believe you given the bullshit you're saying You just can't be that dumb without pretending.
A fucking ton. Gayming is not some secret club hobby anymore. And ad companies love gaymers anyway since they will pay a premium traditionally for things associated with gayming.
Mumble used to be absolute garbage, it didn't even had a per-user volume slider back then when I had to decide between TS and Mubmle when hosting
Not having persistent history is a big issue, with discord you can seamlessly switch between devices (it's 2017 now, most people have multiple computers, smartphones, tablets, etc.)
Also, does mumble support connection to multiple servers at the same time? What if I need to be available to two people who are on different servers?
If they're not naive retards then video will be peer to peer and automatically adjust resolution and bitrate so you're not pulling 6 HD streams for a grid display of 400x400 boxes.
Sorry user, I wasn't the person you were arguing with. Just jumped into this thread. Discord isn't bad as an app, but I dislike it's policies. If it were end-to-end encrypted at least and had the ability to host your server (on your actual network) it would be fine. It should also be open source, even the desktop version of the Facebook messenger is open source (though it's not official, I think).
>no anime emoji
Into le trash
You too? They started asking for mine yesterday. I haven't opened Discord sincerely then. I'm not giving my number or even a burner to those data-selling cocksuckers.
You might be on some guild where the owner has enabled 2FA as a requirement, I doubt it has anything to do with Discord itself
>normie
Don't worry, you're one of them.
nah not really
I thought the same as well but after checking Discord's site I should only have issues with that server, not the entire account.
telegram is miles ahead of discord, when you compare the two it is honestly pathetic how bad discord is
The only thing it's missing is group calls, I never use that on discord anyways
>They're asking my mobile number, I give up. Discord is trash.
Telegram requires a mobile number as well, however it is FOSS and its used in a similar way to a username, you'll never actually need access to the number again after the first time
I recommend using pinger or something to make a telegram account
yes, and video calls