Previous thread: Welcome to /fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.
*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***
Before asking for help, please check our list of resources.
If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following: 0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine. 1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything. 2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or macOS. 3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.
Resources: Your friendly neighborhood search engine.
$ man %command% $ info %command% $ help %command% $ %command% -h $ %command% --help
Don't know what to look for? $ apropos %something%
Well we're certainly using gnu software, even if it's only to compile our kernel.
Chase Garcia
is it worth making your own distro from scratch?
Brandon Sullivan
How do you pronounce 'GNU/Linux'?
Ryder Davis
Unironically just install Gentoo
Austin Cruz
Are you an idiot? Are you going to maintain all the packages that you use and their dependencies and keep up with their updates, security patches and other best practices? Are you going to create new software, like a package manager, despite there already being package managers out there?
Adam Smith
Don't listen to this homosexual Install Source Mage, it's literally LFS with a package manager.
Evan Ortiz
Wizards Assemble!
Advanced users of GNU/Linux (and I mean advanced), remember to try Source Mage GNU/Linux. True source-based distribution, and (in contrast with Gentoo and Arch) is: Free from obfuscated and pre-configured code. Fully committed to GPL, uses only free software (as in freedom) in their main package. With even the documentation licensed as FDL. Without 3rd party patches, sensible defaults or masked packages. Doesn't need obfuscated python libraries, only bash. No systemd (they've implemented their own init scripts system sourcemage.org/Init). Uses clean dependencies as they came from upstream developers, which by the same provides instant updates. Can heal broken installs. Can also use flags.
Do you like Arch Linux's AUR? Do you like Gentoo's portage (or ports-like) package manager? With SMGL's "sorcery" you get all that. Making new spells (package build files) not found in the grimoire (repository of spells) is easy sourcemage.org/Spell/Book
Installing SMGL is easy, here's the simplified process: >boot a live Ubuntu (or whatever) USB drive >go to SMGL website and download compressed archive of the base system >partition and mount partition(s) >extract the archive onto the new partition(s) >chroot, set root passwd, hostname, configure network and locale, write fstab, install grub/lilo >reboot >compile a kernel (preferably the newest stable one from kernel.org) >update sorcery, grimoires and the build toolchain >rebuild the system (hold spells you've already built, so you don't build them twice) The install guide will hold your hand through the whole process sourcemage.org/Install/Chroot Do the chroot method, since the regular live ISO method guide is out of date currently.
Gentoo is also basically LFS with a package manager. And so is Exherbo. Literally every source-based distro is LFS with a package manager, because that's what it means to use LFS.
Xavier Ortiz
"ɡnuː ˈlJnəks"
Charles Wood
Does Gentoo get code directly from upstream in it's default state? If no, then it's not "basically LFS with a package manager".
Liam Evans
Do you pronounce the 'slash' though?
Kevin Rogers
But SMGL doesn't do that either. Granted, they're a lot less hands-on with their packaging, but they still have to modify the packages in order to adhere to file system hierarchy.
Hudson Lopez
tfw installing
Brayden Fisher
No.
Andrew Perez
>reasons to use source mage over gentoo > > >...
Brody Stewart
Doesn't that imply that Linux is a GNU project?
Tyler Wilson
Linux system administrators, how well paying is your job?
Mason Lee
does this imply anyone cares? we know what you mean.
Henry Brooks
But other people might not.
Josiah Hernandez
anyone who doesn't know the gnu/linux, the meaning/meme behind it won't care what you call it, it's going to be 'linux' no matter what you do
Dominic Miller
>implying anyone here even has a job
Austin Moore
Although I don't play games nearly as much as I used to. I'm looking for a good Linux or BSD distribution that will be an all over good experience when it comes to basic use, doing research, typing up documents, some programming but can also run games well. I don't need to be able to run absolutely every game in the book, but I'd like to be able to play most of my steam library and all of the blizzard games.
Chase Butler
Personally, when I write, I often use slashes to list comparable objects/people/topics together when a list in itself (delineated by a comma) doesn't seem to convey the right message, and I'll talk the way that my prose reads, so I'll sort of make verbal "/"s in my mind during conversation, which generally sounds a lot like me making a list, except I won't pause between words.
t. autist
Brandon Fisher
What you can do on one distro, you can do on others. Next, read the OP.
Anthony Gray
Does anyone know the setxkbmap equivalent of the following xmodmap commands? I have been unable to find anything straight forward.
Do I bite the bullet and install Manjaro on my new XPS 13? I need my rice.
Carter Hall
give me a reason for not installing ubuntu first
Mason Adams
at least install arch like a non retard but then again, you are a dumb frog poster
Blake Rivera
You don't need to learn anything terminal-related besides whatever software package manager you use. And that's perfectly documented and is easy peasy.
I used Debian back in the day. Rolling Fedora now. Pick whatever you want, as long as it's easy to install you will be fine. There's no need to restrict yourself to Ubuntu.
Cooper Jones
Meant to quote you, frogfriend.
Asher Peterson
I figured that I could use Manjaro to learn proper Arch.
Xavier Parker
go use arch if you want to """""""learn proper arch""""" no such thing though. there's no reason to use arch over debian unstable or even ubuntu
Kayden Sanders
So Manjaro should be a good starting point?
Hunter Campbell
kill yourself, frogfag
Justin Bennett
I guess I'll go ahead and go for it. I'll see you on the cozy side
Jacob Ross
B-but...where's systemd?
David Thomas
The thread says friendly, dude.
Adam Hall
You first, cockfag.
Adam Stewart
get out of my thread, frog posting shit stain
Owen Walker
dude its a frog ok calm down
Thomas Johnson
I posted no frogs, false accuser.
Brandon Martinez
Everybody calm the fuck down. Frogs were posted, but that's no reason to go apeshit.
Nathan Richardson
Why do programs need glibc installed to run?
If it's a library that you use in your program written in C and then compile the program, why do you still need the library files around? Won't the various features from the library end up in your program? Also, if it's just an uncompiled text file, how can programs use it?
Do I have this wrong and somehow glibc is in compiled for and then other programs can use features from it?
Ian Robinson
have one shared libc so every program isn't being bloated up by having the library with it.
Asher Smith
>Tfw I cause massive asspain by posting a fucking frog
Chase King
you think too highly of yourself
Alexander Fisher
> there's no reason to use arch over debian unstable or even ubuntu
Fucking retarded meme poster.
There are reasons. The reason are the same as with any other distribution. Ubuntu has a fixed release, while Arch and the Debian branches are rolling release. Debian and Ubuntu patch software heavily from upstream and not just modifications so they run on different architectures. Arch keeps the packages as close to upstream as possible. Arch has non-free software in its repositories by default, Debian doesn't. They use different package managers.
Stop posting you retarded meme spreader.
Oliver Davis
i'm trying to keep it contextual. does this manjaro user really need """"""heavily modded packages"""" for his very obscure cpu arch? i dont think so. does he really need 30 minute old software? again, i don't think so. reasons to use pacman over apt? i don't see any - and it isn't hard to add the nonfree repos to debian.
Blake Collins
What's upstream of Debian?
Anthony Watson
>does this manjaro user really need """"""heavily modded packages"""" for his very obscure cpu arch? Debian patches it, you retard, not Arch and its shitty downstream distributions like Manjaro. Lay off the quotation mark memes, you retard. You don't even know what it means. Just like you have no idea what you're talking about in the distribution sense.
Distribution wise? Nothing.
Jose Howard
you didn't read my post properly. i never said manjaro / arch patches them - which is why i said does he really need them patching. you know what i mean, you're being a moron on purpose what made you pick arch over ubuntu...?
Kevin Kelly
>what is dynamic linking
Jaxson Cooper
Bump. Maybe I should post a frog to get answers.
Matthew Williams
>why have a choice if I don't like it?
Parker Morris
you're missing the point
Nathaniel Green
umm I found some mysterious '.swm' file in my home directory it's mostly garbage, but I found a part of my firefox css crammed into a single line it's 19G what could it be? how do I proceed?
Noah Robinson
probably a file from vim. it keeps files starting in .sw as a backup incase the program crashes. just get rid of it
Michael Campbell
if you say so
Isaac Cooper
u have been hacked lol
Nicholas Fisher
meant to
Bentley Rodriguez
ok thanks for the tip bro
Parker Wood
isn't 19G a lot though?
Jaxon Green
did you open something by accident in vim or whatever? i looked up the .sw files on askubuntu and people have seen large files too, exceeding 14gb. bugs happen i guess, just get rid of it and forget it. capcha public humps for
Kevin Wilson
>did you open something by accident in vim I might have opened some non text file by accident
Jose Cox
Red Hat. Especially now that Debian is a systemdOS
Carson Anderson
debian fags btfo
Kevin Wright
Nevermind. Already posted in stack exchange.
Samuel Hall
Could that user pls share the bash vi-key setup stuff? Goin' to try.
How would I start compiling my own kernel ? Any Guides or documentation for big guide lines about the different important/most used flags & their uses ?
Bentley Jenkins
start from learning how to use a search engine
Samuel Rogers
download source run 'make menuconfig' tick some boxes 'make install' www.startpage.com first please.
>download the tarball from here kernel.org/ >make sure the source is clean $ make clean && make mrproper
>configure (menuconfig is deprecated, use nconfig) $ make nconfig
>compile (jobs is the number of cpu cores times the number of threads per cpu + 1) $ make -j
>install the kernel # cp arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-
>install modules (modules are in /lib/modules/) # make modules_install
>make your boot loader detect it >done
Chase Cook
>about the different important/most used flags & their uses I already looked that up.
I was looking for some sort of compilation about the "boxes to tick" themselves. There's a shitload of them, and I don't really have the courage to look them all up to see what they do. I don't really want to forget or "untick" important ones...
But thx anyway, I don''t really know what else I was expecting from asking here.
Aaron Campbell
there's help sections built into the config menu. they are from the devs themselves - so i don't get what more you'll need. if you've managed to get to the stage of fiddling with your own kernels, you'll have enough knowledge to do fine. just ensure you read the help menu for each option if you're not sure and follow the recommendations or leave the default if you're unsure
Michael Taylor
How do i make linux partitions behave like in windows? >2 partitions >1 for root >1 for media, games, etc What should i use as mount point for my file storage partition? When i leave it blank, installer says it will not be mounted. Does that mean that partitions will be unacceptable for me? When i mount it as "/VIDEO GAMES" it blends with root folder. I want muh partitions separately like on Win. Pls help.
Caleb Perez
make root partition(/) make home partition(/home) or something similar, like /home/user/directory/101/ you can't mount /video games - it is not an absolute path nor is it valid and it can't contain spaces. i'd personally recommend you split between / and /home.
Henry Hernandez
Make a separate partition for you /home ? Or make a directory called video-games in it and mount your separate partition on it.
Cooper Davis
I want my "Video Games" partition to appear as separate entry similar like /home to /root. But i only could mount my partitions to either /root and /home as folders.
John Young
can you not make a mountpoint to /home/USER/video_games ?
Jackson Moore
Did you try in /mnt ?
Benjamin Garcia
why not put video games in home?
Matthew Smith
just have a single partition for the time being, until you stop being a noob
Gabriel Watson
That's how the filesystem layout works. Stop living in the Windows mindset.
Jace Morris
Why though? It will be basically the same but bit more organized, sure. Nope. What it does? Im a winfag and its unintuitive to me. You think i should just make partitions and mount them wherever (like in /home) for time being? Im trying!
Brody Cooper
yes it will be the same. you won't notice a slightest difference in your games being mounted on a seperate partition in the slightest. what are you actually trying to achive?
Evan Reed
Yes; you must stick your tongue out and blink twice (quickly) before expressing the following statement. e.g.: ("gahnoo %s linucks", tongue_blink) I hope that clarified things a little.
radeon-profile and radeon-profile-daemo. not sure if they're in the ubuntu repos but building it isn't too hard.
Grayson Collins
i literally searched 'ubuntu change gpu fan speed' why can't you do the same if your case has specific requirements? why didnt you think to google this before asking here
Aaron Murphy
does anyone know if
wget -N example.com/ (check if the remote file has changed, and download it if it has)
executed every 1sec is taxing for the remote server? will it get me blacklisted?
