"A lot of people will use this opportunity to upgrade"
Coffeelake would be a medicore upgrade. The single thread performance is exactly the same. 6 cores will not be very useful for a while yet.
Sandy Bridge was actually a leap forward, Coffeelake is just 2 more cores.
Wyatt Bennett
Zen is the new Sandy Bridge.
Asher Turner
>Zen is the new Sandy Bridge.
Correct, it performs the same, 6 years later
Jack Nelson
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Lucas Gutierrez
Zen is ironlake Zen 2 is sandy bridge >.br
Owen Campbell
Coffee lake is damage control Only fools buy Coffee lake
Parker Murphy
4-core not-completely-gimped Pentiums and i3s is the more interesting part of this.
I'm glad Ryzen happened and Intel have a real competitor again, because that wouldn't have happened without AMD stepping up. My compiling box is probably going to prefer Threadripper but I might go Intel on my desktop again.
What's the heat like? Intel tend to use shitglue where AMD use solder.
John Torres
>What's the heat like? Intel tend to use shitglue where AMD use solder.
> not spending $$$ of your own money to delid an Intel and use liquid metal
Joshua Allen
> >Zen is ironlake >Zen 2 is sandy bridge > >>.br True but I'm still buying a ryzen 7 1700 later today to 'upgrade' my 6600k. Will upgrade zen2 later and resell zen1
Comfy
Cameron Collins
>mfw no socket or chipset changes >mfw I can use the same mobo for a good while Comfy af
Jack Brown
nah, zen is Nehalem zen2 is sandybridge
Jacob Turner
its all that will happen for a few years intel has no innovation so they have to move skus down. when zen 2 happens intel will be fucked
Ian Gray
bollocks zen 2 is just going to be a refinement on a much better process sandy bridge actually changed things up quite a bit from nehalem
Isaiah Phillips
from my understanding, and this is just real world performance,
Nehalem > sandybridge esd 40-50% more performance.
zen 2 looks to be bringing an improved fpu, instead of half memory 1:1 while being on a process geared for normal use of 5ghz, apposed to the 3ghz one they have now
all these improvements will likely uptick by about 40% with just clock speed alone much less inte improved infinity fabric speed and improved fpu.
It will also be the last MAJOR change up zen will have outside of more cores, larger/better caches, pcie 4, or ddr5
i can see zen 2 lasting as long or possibly longer then sandy bridge while still being viable.
William Torres
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James Perry
ironically, Zen2 might finally match Sandy Bridge at single thread
Justin Campbell
Twitch streamers will buy these up in droves.
Zachary Jones
The shareholders, Brian.
Juan Hill
Good goy.
Lucas Ramirez
I'm still on Nehalem, or Westmere technically.
x5660 @ 4.2ghz (very light oc, does 4.5+) with 24gb @ 1866mhz and a gtx 1060 6gb.
Will rock this for years to come probably, no signs of struggle in any games.
Gpu upgrade when needed.
John Cruz
nah, Intel will offer 8-cores with Icelake or Tigerlake
Easton Price
lol
Sebastian Thomas
Too little too late, Ryzen is better.
Gabriel Sanchez
When Zen 2 hits with a refined uarch and 7nm enables frequencies close to 4.5GHz Intel will be forced to release a mainstream 8-core.
Noah Morris
>close to 4.5GHz I assure you that >40% higher performance/watt compared to zen1 is not just 4.5GHz
Juan Carter
you should probably learn how power-frequency curve works