What's a good alternative to Gmail for people who aren't NEETs

What's a good alternative to Gmail for people who aren't NEETs

>protonmail
No imap
>cock.li
Not professional

Is fastmail worth paying for?

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bump for interest. also, proton mail is kiked.

Most people use fastmail on hacker news

You can also run your own with a cheap VPS but problem is spamhaus blocking you arbitrarily, it's almost like it's a well oiled scam to keep you from running your own mail server (you can appeal, takes a while though, like months).

Bump 4 interest m9

What do you mean kiked

>>cock.li
>Not professional
>implying an @tfwno.gf email doesn't show unrivaled dedication and willingness to devote your whole life to further your company's goals

Proton Mail
GMail for business
Your ISP's email
GMX
Whatever the fuck you want 'cause it's email, as long as it works it works

Tutanota has an Office plugin.

He means jewed, infantile

Went through same road like you, tried many of them. Best? Teknik.io

what is the best one for those who are neets?

Dont host your own btw

i learned my lesson the hard way.

You will be put on every fucking spam list.

a bullet to the brain

Tell the story?

y-you too

Perfect for Sup Forums.
autistici.org/

>.io
To the trash it goes.

user, regardless of whether or not you use gmail, gmail WILL have your emails. Something like 35% of the email using population uses gmail, both in and out of institutions

Most people you intend to email will have gmail. It's honestly not worth changing.

Why not just use gmail?

it's not a scam, it's pajeets mass spamming the internet with viagra ads. Of course custom domains get blocked, because they are 99,9999% spam

They literally admitted that they suspend user accounts based on suspicion only, and can't wait for court orders because "muh terrorists".
It's very likely that they're able to read your emails too. Don't use ProtonMail.

i'm not , but i can tell you my story:
rent root server for offsite backups and some web stuff
1-2 months later decide to also run my own mail system
set up basic mail (exim/dovecot)
kinda works but flagged as spam or rejected at most providers
set up spf, dkim, dmarc
set up ptr entry for my domain
some, but less, providers still flag/reject
ip listed as spammer at spamhaus
check exim logs, all seems fine
setup abuse@ address, wait a few days - nothing
explain the situation to spamhaus
spamhaus entry removed the next day
some, but way less, providers still flag/reject
add ipv6 entrys for all dns stuff above
smooth sailing

it takes some work and probably a lot of reading, but
>You will be put on every fucking spam list.
is only true if you're not able/willing to do that. in that case just go with mailbox.org or whatever seems trustworthy to you.
and always remember that email == postcard, so use pgp (or smime) if you don't want others to be able to read your mails.

Leave

I can recommend Outlook.com.
It looks professional, you have a lot of storage space for your mails and they just reworked the GUI of the web app.
It is also seamlessly compatible with Office Outlook.

Mfw Sigaint mail dies.

actually nice bait

>No imap
You say that like it's a bad thing.

What is so bad about Outlook.com?

>Replacing a bother with another botnet

>Microsoft

it is when you use several devices

But don't almost all mail providers fuck you?

Yeah, but my preference is to not be fucked by microsoft or google.

Upvoted

Which provider do you use?

Protonmail. I don't particularly care about imap support.

see

Yeah, I read into it yesterday. Once you read all of their responses, it's not actually a concern.
They may be able to read emails. I assumed that was the case from the beginning. Same as every other provider.

fastmail

However, I personally use mailfence because of their IMAP function for my self-hosted mail.

lel

I've just gotten into looking up info about mail servers today. I was hoping there were companies that didn't spy on you. It's kind of a big deal to switch your entire mail address because you have to inform all your contacts.
Ugh, I guess I have to stick with gmail for the time being.

There is no winning move. Even if you host your own and have it locked down, odds are you'll be communicating with people who largely use gmail so google gets to see what you were saying anyway. Don't say anything of any actual importance over email.

>gpg

Falls into the same trap as getting away from gmail. Not enough people use it or care.

Nicely integrated into mailfence.

Proton Mail / Yandex for business
Cock.li for recreational

1) buy your own domain (it's CRUCIAL, see what happened with openmailbox)
2) delegate it to Yandex
3) ??????
4) PROFIT !!11
Pros:
zero configuration needed
zero vps needed
putin spies your mail*
you have Yandex Apps for Windows/Mac/Android/Linux/whaterver
IMAP/POP/Yandex Drive
Cons:
putin spies your mail*

*obviously this is irrelevant, since mail was never meant to be private nor confidential

Paying for fastmail is literally meaningless. If you really want to toss some coins, get tutanota.

No, you DO NOT want to run your own e-mail server.

GnuPG is considered harmful. Please stop using it or even recommending it.

Are private, homemade email servers superior? If so, how would I go about making one?

Did you set up rDNS? My mail server has been going just fine for about 2 years.

> No, you DO NOT want to run your own e-mail server.

It is actually pretty simple, even with DMARC and SPF. Just add another provider as back-up MX record.

>its shit because they don't share my political opinions
You're no different from SJWs.

set up your own mail server, cunt.

All I can see in this picture is a company being consistent in protecting the user's privacy, how is this bad?

1) Get a server on the interwebs.
2) Install Dovecot/Postfix.
3) Enjoy your personal privacy.

thanks for the heads up, I will avoid it now
>Doesn't respect my privacy and don't live by what they preach
hurr durr stop making mail political
yeah

why

You're missing the point.

They're Swiss.
Fuck the Swiss.

[autism]

>personal privacy
nobody gives shit about your chink cartoons and cum-crusted emails

Eat shit faggot

obviously yes, otherwise it wouldn't be so hard to get a private mail provider

>angband.oook.cz/ladder.php

Why do so many Angband variants exist?

ffs wrong bread

I'm curious as well. I don't use it anyway, but I haven't heard this before.

it's most likely troll.

encryption is harmful for society

Setting it up is simple. Maintaining it is a nightmare.

If you're really interested in it, read
secushare.org/PGP
The OpenPGP format is harmful. Please stop using it, unless you're signing packages nobody will verify. I'm dead serious.
It ultimately revolves around an antiquated concept of Web of Trust (ultimately failed). You have zero control over your data, which is stored until doomsday comes and turns off MIT's keyservers. It ties all your communications with your account, making them more traceable. It creates a visible, permanent trace of all your contacts and of your actions. Metadata is more important than data today.
And nobody, literally nobody uses it. Not even in GNU/Linux circlejerks, not even after keysigning events (besides the first couple of message people send each other to test why thunderbird works and $some_other_client doesn't).
So, please, don't even worry about creating a key with Name, Surname, e-mail and net of friends permanently stored on MIT servers just to prove some anonymous faggot on a larping haxxor board that you're rad.

> this triggers the Sup Forumslack

its very easy you can even install it in your bathroom and if da police comes just throw some bleach.

G Suite.

Tutanota has a way around this that will keep email e2e encrypted.

Fastmail is great and replaces all the stuff I wanted.

I think cock.li has a list of domains you can choose from, and one of them is airmail.cc.
That's pretty professional isn't it?

Literally Yandex, except that you have to pay for the privilege of contributing to Google's AI.

Teknik

Thanks for the link, that definitely answered my question.

>Not professional

you@yourdomain

>use cock.li
>register a professional sounding domain
>set up email forwarding

cock.li is only run by one dude, if he's taken out or decides to stop the service you've just lost your email.

cock.li has airmail.cc which looks somewhat professional
if that doesnt work you can try @nigge.rs

aim.com

don't advertise your prostitution services over email and you don't have to worry about the botnet you fucking cockgobbling nigger

So you'd prefer to get fucked over by some Indians you don't know running a mail server.

Posteo is fully compatible with LibreJS and is cheap even for my shitty currency.

Here:
fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems

Outlook

I've given up honestly. I fucked up bad when making my original email at Gmail and I'm now like 7 layers deep into the botnet. I can't escape.

Gmail.com

Wait, wait, wait.

All this time, Proton doesn't support IMAP?

LMFAO

No. Wouldn't IMAP defeat the point of encryption.

petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/release-fbi-documents-withheld-due-lack-public-interest

Wrong board.
>>Sup Forums

Protonmail has been circumcised

>no one has mentioned lavabit

You just described Google and Microsoft