Just ripped a DVD, and it looks better than streaming 1080p videos

Just ripped a DVD, and it looks better than streaming 1080p videos.
>Physical coipies are dead.
Shieeet

>480p
lol

What is compression?

Comparing shitty web players to personal player

When will streaming services start to offer videos in decent quality?

480p is actually better than neflix 4k though. How can you even defend streaming services knowing that.

>letterbox
>effectively only 720x360 pixels, literally on par with youtube's 360p
>probably 2:3 telecined garbage

when you provide them with bigger and faster servers to stream uncompressed video and also have a device that can handle that

>Old ass dvd that I decided to rip on my laptop just so I can play it on my desktop
>actually looks 10x better than netflix 4k
Used zero bandwidth too, so why do I even pay for streaming?

You dropped your >

>when you provide them with bigger and faster servers to stream uncompressed video and also have a device that can handle that
Everyone pays a subscription fee, so that should cover it.

>What is compression?
2017. Using so much compression that a dvd rip has better quality. People pay for these services, and they won't even provide a quality experience.

>People pay for these services, and they won't even provide a quality experience.

Oh wow, $10 a month. So much for a poorfag.
You want uncompressed quality then go get an Xbox S, a 4K HDR+ Dolby Vision TV and a 4K bluray movie library. For the rest of us, compressed video streaming is just fine. Hell Netflix is losing money, so it actually means we are paying less than what the service is worth!

>Oh wow, $10 a month. So much for a poorfag.
Implying that here's only one service.
>netflix
>crunchy
>funi
>amazon
>hulu
People could just buy a stack of dvds, and have better quality videos for cheaper than a year with all these snake oil salesmen.
There's really no excuse for it today.

>For the rest of us, compressed video streaming is just fine.
>us
Speak for yourself.

>uncompressed video

>People could just buy a stack of dvds, and have better quality videos for cheaper than a year
Maybe if you only watch 5 year and older movies. I just subbed to Netflix less than a month and a half ago. I watched so much stuff, that no way could I have saved by buying them. Also Netflix does have 4K streams, which even compressed will still look better than 1080p.

>people pay for shit service despite better quality alternatives being readily available
>LOL WHY DOESN'T NETFLIX BLOW MONEY ON USELESS SHIT THAT DOESN'T MAKE THEM ANY MONEY
Are you really this retarded?

Holy shit, you are fresh off the boat.
Just use torrents. Free and good quality if you know the right trackers. Free and quality varying from good to shit (but still way better than streaming) if you just use rut.

>snake oil salesmen
They arent streaming fraud or false hopes.
They are streaming a service.
How can you possible say its a snake oil operation?

>Also Netflix does have 4K streams, which even compressed will still look better than 1080p
What does this even mean? No Netflix stream can compete with a standard blu-ray.

I used torrents and still do. But it is really nice just to be able to stream what I want on the fly in bed.

Also I've used kodi, but have some trouble with things not loading.

Netflix is just really nice and easy for the price.

>dvd
>good quality
my nutsack has more hairs than your dvd rip has pixels

>What does this even mean?
Well the topic was dvd quality being better than netflix, which implies their normal hd stuff, not their 4k stuff.

>Netflix is just really nice and easy for the price.
>Netflix is just really nice
Lost.

I think hea meant their 'HD', 'FHD' etc don't actually give better viewing experience (since the compression is very shitty) just like snake oil doesn't actually benefit you.

>Also Netflix does have 4K streams, which even compressed will still look better than 1080p.
Sorry for your eyes, because you must be blind.
That's fine. I just unsubscribed, so that's one less chump getting ripped the fuck off.
Torrents, are better sure, but I could just rip the discs that I already bought
>They arent streaming fraud or false hopes.
They are streaming false hopes in quality. When a dvd rip literally gives you a better quality video upscaled than a 4k stream then maybe you're getting ripped off.

>Sorry for your eyes, because you must be blind.
Maybe he meant it looks better than their '1080p'.
>Torrents, are better sure, but I could just rip the discs that I already bought
Nothing wrong with that.

Current year, and streaming services still don't offer good stream quality visually, and the audio quality is even worse. Fuck that bullshit.

>Sorry for your eyes, because you must be blind.
So, then let us play a game.

Here is a scene from Matrix Revolutions dock battle from a dvd rip.

How should I rip my stargate dvd collection as a good balance between file size and quality?
Handbrake is a given seeing as I'll do it on linux.

And here is it from Netflix. I just did this now. I didn't get it down to the split second, but close enough. This is a normal non-4K stream. I don't pay for the extra resolution.

Sure if you only watch 12 movies a year and only buy from the Walmart barging bin of old movies.

I just used full size, printscreen for both. My monitor is 1080p.

>How should I rip my stargate dvd collection as a good balance between file size and quality?
What are you poor? Just remux them.

>what is popcorn time
just go to bed, you're gonna make your parents angry

>So, then let us play a game.
>Uses handbrake
Just die already.

>Uses handbrake

No, that's the middle guy posting the stargate pic, not me.

remux? is that a program?
see
What's wrong with handbrake?

Remuxing is putting the raws into a container so you can play it without mounting it but retain lossless quality (well, you lose menus and shit but who needs em?)

>dvds
>lossless

Are you saying that netflix is better, or worse, because that image has a shit ton of artifacts on it. Circled is an example, and it looks horrendous overall.

No one is saying that dvds are lossless, or even advocating dvds smartguy.

Thanks. Will look into it. I have plenty of time. Don't plan on rewatching it for the sixth time until sometime next year.

>Just use torrents.

Sounds like something a socialist leech would advise...

>just go to bed, you're gonna make your parents angry
When their service is cutoff for pirating?

>leech
Stop projecting, I have average ~4.0 ratio (I try to seed to 1.0).

Popcorn time begins better YouTube or Vimeo even on TN panel.

In general Cinema home fags buy Blu ray for high quaility because pay thousand dollar on home theater

Try makemkv. it's free/paid, and also available on linux.

I tried that a few years ago. Didn't seem to go so well. Don't really recall why.

>Posts pixel vomit.
>Paid to see this.

>This is what Sup Forums has become.

Sup Forums has always hated streamfags though.
Nice try rewriting history.

People lust use sites that do it for free :
123movies.net (basicly anything whit 123movies in it or yesmovies)
freemoviesz.to
watchseries.do

>Hell Netflix is losing money, so it actually means we are paying less than what the service is worth!
>netflix is losing money
They just lost a couple more dollars. Maybe they can retain some customers if they provided better quality streams.
>inb4 memelated 4k

If I just want the accessibility of watching a movie and don't want to own the physical copy, but also don't mind the quality drop when you stream, why the fuck would you pay for Netflix then? Just stream it from free sites, it's a fucking victimless crime

>What's wrong with handbrake?
It isn't ffmpeg

Anyone know any good guides on how to take say a 1080p h264 video and either transcoding it to h265 or staying with h264, but reducing it to 720p, but with minimal loss when it comes to high motion scenes? So how to decide on what an "ideal" new bitrate or quality setting is, to get best bang for buck on reducing the quality.

Need to make some more room and I rather not resort to flat out deleting, or resorting to using compressed zips that slow file access a lot.

Just remux, and buy more hdd. Mechanical drives are cheap as fuck now.

>how am I going to explain all these drives to normies when they see them.
I've already got a 5 disk NAS.

But really for comedy shows or non-action movies in general I am OK with even 480p; but I don't want to needlessly over-compress or lose so much bitrate that essentially the quality is technically sub-480p despite there being 480p pixels present.

Seriously speaking, no one cares.

People care about praticality. If the quality is barely decent, that's ok with 99,9% of them.

Just look at how many smart $K TVs are sold to people who only watch 1080p compressed Netflix streams and YIFY from time to time.

>uncompressed video

Sup Forums is fucking hilarious from time to time, holy KEK

LOL

>That's fine. I just unsubscribed
Woah, netflix will end up bankrupt if you do this, user!

samefag

>Woah, netflix will end up bankrupt if you do this, user!
>netflix is losing money

lol

You tried

Netflix is losing money, and so is Spotify.
You think they're disappearing anytime soon?

>i'm not retarded, he sure is samefag.
pic related.

>lol
But it's better than streamshit
see

>You think they're disappearing anytime soon?
Yes. They're obsolete as they are now. A lingering remnant of the past.
>pic related.
Dynamic ip. Clever.

Multi device samefaggetry.

Nah, they're not. They're literally studied as cases of DIgital Transformation, no random ass faggot in his parent's beasement ripping shitty movies will change that.

What's even worst is Netshit offers many films in abysmal SD quality, when said films are out on BD. So not only are you paying to watch compressed DVD transfers, you're watching DVD when blurays are out. Not even mentioning DRM and data mining

>Nah, they're not. They're literally studied as cases of DIgital Transformation, no random ass faggot in his parent's beasement ripping shitty movies will change that.
They should be making a huge profit then. The only competition is a bunch of neets who upload videos in their spare time.

People in thread is just focusing on netflix' shit ass quality.
Have you all forgotten about the abomination that is Crunchyroll?
>shit for video quality
>shit for audio quality
>Bundled with the most infuriating web based player, and apps in the world.
>fired everyone that even made that shithole tolerable

This is quite interesting tbqh.
DVDs used to be encoded with mpeg2 and are 4.7gb in size. I have no way of calculating the difference in audio size so I'll ignore it since there will be audio in modern video anyway but now that it makes the calculation less accurate.

I'll compare mpeg2 to h264 since it's the most used codec nowadays to. Mpeg2 needs roughly twice the bittrate of h264/for the same visual quality. So if we take 4.7gb you would need a 2.35gb h264 encode to have roughly the same quality. Most encodes I find online are at least this size or higher so it should look the same or better. If we're going to compare to Netflix 4k it uses h265 so it compresses at a 4:1 ratio compared to mpeg2. This would mean it only needs to be 1.175gb in size to reach the same quality. However the bitrate of Netflix is probably higher (don't know for sure since I don't use Netshit) but if I where to look at the screenshots posted here it looks pretty bad. I think there's a lot of bad encodes available nowadays. I have a Crunchyroll subscription and when I pipe an episode to mpv with good filters it looks way better than in the online player. This leads me to believe that DVDs actually are pretty shitty since it only amounts to the same quality a low bittrate modern codec would produce however modern encodes from streaming services are shit as well.

We really need better sources for high bittrate video. Everything seems to be shitty except for bluerays and uhd bluerays.

I have yet so see a single DVDrip whose quality isn't at least half of an actual DVD.

I downloaded DVDrips for years from torrent, from many sources, and even though they looked fine for the time an actual DVD looks FAR better, perhaps at the level of a good BRrip

It probably has something to do with what said

That's why I'm hoarding bluray encodes. HDDs aren't that expensive nowadays.

My dvd/br rips are at least the same quality, and if I'm feeling quite fancy I interpolate them them to 60fps, or more.
DVDs aren't the best quality to begin with, but it is very sad that up-scaling one gives you better a/v than the streaming providers. if you play around with filters, and have a decent size collection then streaming is just a waste.

I've used ogmrip in the past. It's a front end to ffmpeg etc soon you don't have to do hours of googling about best practise cli args every time you want to encode something.

And I dunno but are all blurays nowadays crackable? I hear UHD one's still dont have a public way to crack them.

so buying used uhd blurays doesnt seem viable but normal blurays are?

Always been nervous about it ever since song put rootkits in their dvds

I more or less mentioned it as a potential great source for videos. DRM ruins everything as always. What's new? Luckily normal BD still is a high bittrate source.

576p used in DVDs in the past.

That's because streaming services aim for average bitrates that fit your internet bandwidth (1-4mbps) instead of using a CRF.

To get good file sizes that aren't bloated use a 10-bit x265 encoder and use a CRF of 22 and the faster preset. Also encode audio to 128 vbr Opus.

I dont understand. i get high quality 1080p HD on netflix and foxtel that looks way better than OP's image.

Physical media was never dead. However for normies, netflix/youtube and overall streaming is more than good enough.

I have a large collection of Blu-rays and DVDs. Rip/encode them myself with H.264 and the super high quality preset.

OP's image is from a DVD rip. AKA 480p or 360p.

>get DVDs and bluerays for free from library or campus
>rip them and return them
>get amazing quality picture and audio

Can also do something similar. Rent from redbox for $1 per movie and build a collection of new movies that way.

Although Redbox has vastly inferior audio options and quality.

>480p is better than 1080p

...

They both look like shit desu senpai

Yeah. The bitrate on streaming services is garbage. Plebs only look at the resolution. It's 1080p therefore it must be good.

Are you being stupid?
The Netflix one looks much better.
The wall lighted thing is much clearer.
Obviously from the blu-ray.

Actually it's not the bitrate but the fact that ABR mode is being used instead of CRF. A 1GB movie encoded with CRF will have significantly better quality then one encoded with an ABR due to intelligent bitrate distribution.


Companies can't afford to use CRF however because that means the bitrate varies too much which is a problem if you want to target specific bandwidths.

Are all normal blurays rippable? Not uhd

framed it exactly this time. source is from bluray disc

damn i meant framed it toyour netflix screenshot

for comparison:

UHD can technically be played on a PC with the right software and UHD supporting Blu-ray drive.

As for ripping regular blu-rays, yea. 99% of blu-rays can be ripped no problem. I used a paid copy of MakeMKV to break the encryption and rip Blu-rays. Takes about 20-30 minutes per rip writing to an NVME based SSD as scratch space.

Keep in mind that many Blu-rays these days like to put fake entries on the disc. Jon Wick 1 and 2 for instance (and pretty much anything else from Lion's Gate) have 200+ 55GB entries on the disc. Only one of them has the scenes in the proper order. The number of that copy changes from disc to disc. The EU, Redbox, and US version will all have a different number. I usually just type "Movie name MakeMKV" into google. It brings up the MKV forums and someone on there usually know which the right one is.

How do you even properly rip I know it sounds stupid but I just can't find anything that works