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Reposting from last thread: I'm getting an X300 for free next week. Is it powerful enough for Windows 7 and YouTube videos? Anything else to take care of? That model seems strange to me.
Robert Thomas
what was the first Thinkpad to have a 1080p screen
Chase Hall
X200t and upgraded T430 master race checking in.
Tyler Gray
There is this company in Romania that can decrypt the BIOS-level lock on T440, T450, T460, etc. and bypass both SVP and TPM.
Does that mean Libreboot is technically possible on those machines?
Jeremiah Brown
What's a moderately priced Thinkpad that could run [spoiler] TF2 [/spoiler]? Should an X240 cut it?
Kayden Richardson
>trusting gypsies
Jordan Thompson
W500 had a 1920x1200, W510 and onwards have 1920x1080.
On T series, T440P/S were the first. Not the standard 440, weirdly enough. I think the t450 did though.
For X series, X240.
Jaxson Robinson
Yes, you fucked up, but not too much. Besides, Thinkpads tend to be more expensive in Euroland, anyway.
Gabriel King
Please tell me you have 16 GB of 2133 MHz RAM installed.
Andrew Brooks
>that feel when you run your finger around the soft rim
Hudson Lewis
you should be fine with win7 and 720p. it's a 2008 laptop with C2D, so i don't see any problems as long you don't push it.
Logan Johnson
i thought that not all the fn key functions worked on t430s with the older keyboard.
Anthony Sanders
When did they start using mostly 16:9 panels?
Grayson Barnes
That can't run Titanfall 2
Ryan Cox
I'm concerned because the processor is some Core2duo ultra low power meme. Used to the non-u i5 of my X230. It's only for travelling anyways but watching Youtube videos seems to drain more and more power nowadays. I remember having a workshop PC, Pentium 4 1ghz which could play any video (mostly for music so fuck quality). Absolutely impossible now.
Lucas Ross
any way to upgrade the res on a x220
Cameron Robinson
I appreciate your existence
Colton Roberts
xx30 series and upwards is best. aka hd 4000 in x230. x240 will be more than enough
David Fisher
>Please tell me you have 16 GB of 2133 MHz RAM installed.
I don't remember the speed, but yes, I have 16 GB in the T430, and also added an i7-3720QM CPU which gets too hot under heavy load unless I disable the discrete GPU. Runs like a breeze, though, even when I'm running a virtual machine.
I also have an ultrabay caddy like this with a 1TB HDD that I sometimes swap in.
No, not all of them do, although I haven't tested every single one. The screen brightness, thinklight fn keys work, but are on different keys. Some of the other keys changed or are non-functional, but you can remap them.
Ryan Clark
yes to 1080p but honestly it's not worth the hassle, you either have to install a PCB or cut and splice cables.
Liam Hernandez
Will a x230 screen work when put in a x220?
Mason Watson
yes, they use identical TN and IPS panels as far as im aware. many people bought x220's with IPS screens to swap it with their x230 then resold the x220 with TN panel from the x230
Michael Wood
>I also have an ultrabay caddy like this with a 1TB HDD that I sometimes swap in.
Fuck, forgot pic.
Jace Smith
Long story short: I accidentally my x230, I know for sure that the motherboard is fried and want to find out if the display is still fine (some grease might have gotten into it), tried swapping the lids of the x230 to the x220, status LEDs light up but I get no picture otherwise.
Chase Gray
Noooice, you just have to replace screen with one from one of Dell's laptops or whatever and you officially maxed out your T430. That's what I like in them.
Thomas Ortiz
Right, so final appearance here so as to not be a nuisance: The stickers will be 3.50, 3" long. Going on my site Thursday the 7th at 6PM EST. Google patchdynamics. If you want to know shipping you can always test it on my site before checkout. I'll be back on Thurs before the drop
Ryan Campbell
Yeah, that's the one thing left I want to change. I never really minded the TN screen on the X200t, but the one on the T430 is truly shit-tier.
Kayden Rogers
Also You're free to make a few for yourself at home, that's why I shared the high res pic.
Jordan Gutierrez
Does anyone here have a 12-cell battery for the X200? Where did you find it?
Jose Williams
From what I found, one from Alienware M14X R2 is perfect fit. Good luck my dude
Brandon Martin
From what I can see X61t goes for up to 150€ on Ebay. This is a pretty good deal.
Luis Wright
Pretty much as soon as they switched to three digit names.
400 series was 16:10, i think 420 marked the start of 16:9.
Adam Foster
Wtf is this? Just get a slice senpai
Sebastian Clark
correct. The last 16:10 models were the X201, T410, T510, W510 etc
Carson Rogers
>x201 instead of x210
Why the gap in naming?
Mason Bell
Apologies friend
Isaiah Williams
>getting a laptop with resolution less than 1080p >implying you can be a productive programmer using 1366x768 resolution
>having to order an obscure part from an obscure internet scammer and soldering it on yourself just to get a decent resolution
shig
Aaron Thompson
I have absolutely no idea. They went X200 -> X201 -> X220
Maybe the Chinks were huffing glue or something.
Hunter Thomas
>X200, X201 >X60, X61 >T60, T61 >R60, R61 Lenovo sticked to the old IBM naming scheme for a bit. Then they must have decided to change things.
Elijah Hughes
First for X40 master race! >no hardware backdoor >super efficient processor >best keyboard >near-retina screen >10+ hour battery life with wireless, 14 hours with it turned off (with new chink battery) >no homosex trackpad >no need to install transexual boot shit >gigabit ethernet >tiny and sexy >proper aspect ratio >internal roll cage to protect drive (no screen / lid cage but IDGAF) >actual IBM logo >no built in camera or mic, stymies CIA niggers >only $30 or so >cute docking station and extended battery available >*yellow* thinklight to preserve night vision Why don't you own the finest laptop ever made?
Jack Lewis
>pics
Carson Sullivan
*exists*
I'll go with the huffing glue.
Easton Young
What Thinkpads can come with a Thunderbolt port? I know of- T430s - Gen 1 W540/W541 - Gen 1 P50/P51/P70/P71 - Gen 3 Are there any others?
Nicholas Cox
I recently bought a replacement keyboard for my T440s on amazon. Both left and right shift keys do not work, they do work on the old keyboard though and all other keys on the new keyboard work, too.
Did I do something wrong or is my keyboard DoA?
Easton Mitchell
I'm going out later to look at some property, I'll take my X40 and have a photogenic weekend.
Kayden Cook
But why did they keep it up with the X series with the newer widescreen models? They didn't go from T400 to T401.
Adam Richardson
Too bad about that chicklet keyboard.
Nathaniel Campbell
It's still nicer than most modern laptops.
Liam Rodriguez
Is a E570 a good decision? Me poor
Adrian Torres
>using Windows >2017
Shiggy.
Angel Thomas
Tables aren't very good thinkpads desu
Connor Brooks
Memes, I guess.
Wyatt Smith
It's okay
Evan Miller
I think your thinkpad has cancer, there is clearly a tumor growing out the back.
Brayden Torres
tell me more about it: libreboot and linux on it ?
Leo Wright
is this b8? that's not windows
Dylan Butler
The X240 is a bag of shit Buy a X230
Bentley Scott
No need for trannyboot
Christopher Reed
I'll check that out, thanks.
Jason Edwards
>buy a x230
buy a x220
Michael Jackson
T470 X1 carbon 5th
Christopher Watson
Then buy a older T series
Chase Walker
Go away meme fag Buy a X230
Daniel Harris
X230 is superior.
>same case >better graphics >lower temps >old keyboard compatible
Zachary Morgan
Windows doesn't work very well with Libreboot.
Leo Myers
Why would I use it over standard bios?
Jose Myers
I run Debian 9 with systemd removed and tlp, it's comfy as fuck.
Keyboard has an excellent feel, lighter touch than the X60 or later series Thinkpads and imho superior. I have mine set up so that it is capped at 900 MHz on batteyr power, it never even turns on the fan unless I have it plugged in and doing something intensive.
I have newer machines and a powerful desktop but I use this thing to command everything and do my web browsing mostly. It's just so comfy.
This, plus I don't know if I even trust that piece of software.
Evan Evans
Noooooooo x220 is the bestttttt
Elijah Flores
faster
Anthony Stewart
Nobody knows, user. Nobody knows.
Nathan Hill
It is to note that the T410 is a departure of the T400 design which itself was the evolution of the T60...
The last official 7 row keyboard was on the X201. The T410/510 brought the big escape and delete keys. I believe the X201 was released months before the T410.
It is also of note that the X201 stayed 16:10 screen layout, oddly the T410 did too but not the T/W510.
>undervolted pentium >1.8" PATA ticking time bombs >drives are slow AF
Though I do want to get an X40 for collection purposes, the reason why the X40 was disliked was the poor performance it had. In comparison the X2x and X3x machines had at least a few processors that equaled to their bigger T2x and T30 counterparts.
It was so bad that IBM had brought back the former model, and used a similar Pentium processor that the T43 had. So when the X41 came out, they had the X32 as well. When the X60 was in prototype form, they made sure the laptop could come with 2.5" drives, and the 'slim' model would use the same as well, but with L2xxx chips intead of T2xxx.
Aiden Adams
Faster boot times, and I guess more control over your boot process because you have (some) of the source code for booting your device. However, it's not fully open-source like Libreboot, so there's really no point in using it over the stock BIOS, unless you like more bugs with no benefits other than it booting slightly faster.
Jack Ross
Why do you use these old machines to work? I don't understand, can you have the latest software in them?
Justin Bell
Well user if you don't then it's not for you
Mason Garcia
leave out the very :p
Jack Brooks
wished thinkpads still had seperate mic and headphone jacks
Carson Baker
>>undervolted pentium You mean super efficient CPU. .8" PATA ticking time bombs Already replaced with SSD. >>drives are slow AF See above.
It's comfy, handles modern tasks just fine, and has a superior keyboard to later X series Thinkpads.
Plus no CIA nigger botnet.
Adam Perry
How max RAM can you put in there ?
Looks like the perfect shitposting machine
William Torres
How do I get Bluetooth working on x220 with fedora 25. It is searching devices, but can't find a thing.
Carson Lewis
Found a pretty nice X200 for $80, 4GB of RAM and no hard drive, caddy, or cover. Looks like it's in spit-shine factory condition from the pictures.
Worth?
Owen Cruz
Also no battery, forgot to mention.
Jaxon Jenkins
Deffo way better deals available than that, unless you live outside of the US. I'd say no, I got a X200 recently for $60 and it had an ultrabase, and everything needed to make it work.
Adrian Jenkins
someone sell me a cheap x61 please
Sebastian Roberts
Okay, thanks user.
Chase Walker
I might get one to see what it's capable of. Can it play 1080p movies? Can it stream youtube at 720p and 1080p? Can it stream twitch.tv streams at 720p60, and how about 1080p60? Currently using an X61 daily since a month ago, as it turns out the X61 can do all of these, but i feel like it can only just do it, as some frames drop at 1080p60, and temps get pretty high. All I need from a machine is for it to run libreoffice, play videos just fine, and be able to stream videos online (chromium or qutebrowser). The streaming videos bit I think is the hardest thing for an older machine to do.
Jose Wood
why is X60 on the Libreboot compatibility list but X61 isn't?
Charles Rodriguez
I can oly speak from experience with a T40 (no dGPU)
>Can it play 1080p movies? laggy >Can it stream youtube at 720p and 1080p? 480p works with minor lag >Can it stream twitch.tv streams at 720p60, and how about 1080p60? certainly not
Henry Morris
Anything pre Core 2 Duo can't do anything thats internet multimedia.
But then the X40 is going for 'nothing CIA botnet' so all that multimedia stuff is 'null and void'
An SSD and lightweight distro can't do much when it comes to a ULV Pentium M benchmarks.
Also, I think a Broadcom HD card can help out your X61, though I might be wrong (streaming vs playing from your HDD/network)
Christopher Peterson
>snagged a X60 Tablet that is hopefully SXGA+ if the machine type number is correct, for a not horrible price Can't wait for it to get here. Should I trannyboot? X60 can be flashed with software, correct? Some people say there are possible instability issues, is this true?
Colton Jackson
Who the fuck has time to dress a raccoon up in a cute little outfit but can't be assed to clear their filthy, filthy keyboard?
Jaxson Kelly
That's what I figured, but thanks anyway. 6 thinkpads in, and the hunt for the perfect thinkpad continues. There's no such thing as a perfect thinkpad, is there
Brayden Campbell
Probably not. The ones with the best build quality are just too outdated to be a daily driver in 1980+37
Grayson Jones
Get one of the last Thinkpads with a Core2Duo. X200, T400, T500, etc. They're libreboot-able and should handle graphics very well!
Grayson Bell
>1980+37 I love my X201, and considering the X61 does what I need for a daily driver, I am considering an X200. Also wanna try a T420/T430, and a tablet thinkpad at some point too.
Jose Mitchell
Perfect ThinkPad is subective. You have your daily, then you have everything else 755 - Dat fucking keyboard and tool less servicing 600X - Best built ThinkPad, arguably best thinkpad ever but smells funny (like medical equipment) T22 or T23 - Dat keyboard bezel A31p - Best sound, easy to service & dat IPS T601 - IPS T60 w/ T61 mobo