Junior position

>Junior position
>10 years experience

>devops
>we need a sysadmin and a full stack dev but we only wanna pay one guy to do it

>codemonkey position
>they want a degree for some reason

>unpaid summer internship with opportunity for hire
>we want a coffee errand boy to boss around
>no you will not be hired
>no, you will not be compensated for transportation
>you will literally become less employable for having taken this job

> 5 years of Shit®™ framework experience.
> Shit®™ has been out for 3 years.

>requirements are non-negotiable
>if you do not fulfill all the requirements, do not apply or you will be blacklisted regionally

> You're looking for a competitive salary?
> Best I can do is $38,000

>Please send us a link to your github account

>he doesn't work 13.33333 hour days

Real talk, Imma be graduating in December. My current employer (place I've been interning at for 2 years) said they would take me in January.
One hiring person (the product owner for our BU) told me that I should have an offer letter from them by the time I get back to school.
My managers manager said that I should talk to him at the beginning of Q4. He since corrected himself to be in sync with the product owner.
Seeing as how it's been 3 weeks since school started, wat do?

Send an email and ask for clarification.

Sadly this is true. There are studies (I can find the source of need be) that show that paid interns have better job prospects when they graduate then unpaid interns

>Need any college at all.

Well k guess I'll just die then.

>junior position but better pay and less responsibility than current job
>senior at interview is thoroughly impressed, says I know some stuff better than he does
>walk out confident I'll get the job
>they hire someone else

>Junior position laptop fixing
>need 2 years experience
>it's not 2 years but that was basically my entire intership
>google the company
>i was treated more like a slave if you made a small mistake they would threaten to fire you instantly

What the fuck is this?
And all these other companies want you to be 18 have a driver's license and have 12 years experience in nuclear fusion and advanced thermodynamics

>get walking tour of my new company
>get treated out to lunch
>get to meet with engineers
>get shafted the last second and they hire an H1B
Turns out they did this to a few people, not just me and they were simply complying with the US govt's mininum mandatory number of hours they must spend searching for domestic candidates before they can get granted a pajeet visa.

>take unpaid internship
>last day of internship i have learned nothing
>go to hr and request meeting with my boss and hr
>ask threaten to sue for back pay + transportation + any other damages I can think of
>tell them I am calling the labor regulators as well to report their whole intern program
>they hire me the next day
>its a full time job but I can only show up part time cuz student
>I dont know nothing so some has to walk me through literally all my work
>quit 3 months later after getting agreement from hr/boss to give me amazing referrals if I leave

That was such a shit show. But I claim the whole 6 months as full time work exp. And I have got some solid referrals now. Plus I learned alot duringthe last 3 months.

Just gotta know your rights, live in a blue state with good labor laws, and have parents who can fund your unpaid slave work.

itz ez

of course, everything's easier when you just have money!

Where do you niggers even find unpaid internships

Top kek, this is legendary user. Good for you for having some balls

silicon valley is full of them

The
Absolute
MADMAN

>work in a shithole
>"w00000w, this place is a shithole"
What did you fucking expect from California?

Post W-2/offer letters, I don't believe you.

>working for free for muh experience

>you must sign over the rights of any side projects you produce between now and until your employment with [company] ends in this non-compete agreement
>if you would like you exclude projects created before being employed by [company], please write them down in this field along with a URL to said project and you will be approached by [company] legal at a later date to discuss one-off copyright exemptions on a case by case basis
>there's only 3 fields

that's not even the worst part
unpaid internships offer no relevant experience, and you certainly won't be allowed anywhere near their production stack because you're just the errand boy

>we want a coffee errand boy to boss around

>not having at least 10 years experience working as a barista before attempting an internship at an IT company.

>get hired as junior straight from internship
>literally 0 professional experience even before internship
>got paid as full time employee during my entire internship

Worked out great.

Even paid interships do nothing user. The whole internship system is just a form of companies trying to retain talent before other firms get to them

B-but I learned useful stuff during my paid internships

>entry level position
>2 years minimum experience

>custodian
>mcdonalds burger flipper
>high school diploma required
why?

Stop nigs from applying?

Oh damn... I'm in the same boat.

they won't even look at it

Assuming you live in the land of freedom, unpaid internships with zero educational value like the one you described are illegal

How do you not have a driver's license?

Some people cant afford a car

Do they really do this?

Wow, people actually intern for free? Lmao

Wow so this is what they meant by taking my engineering hat off and putting my management hat on

Public transportation everywhere :^)

>Junior HVAC technician
>$22/hour starting pay
>Leads make $30-50 an hour depending on experience and company
>built-in overtime
>no SJWs, Pajeets, or shitty HR to deal with
>if you have even half a brain cell you will be a god compared to the dumb but hardworking people that gravitate towards the trades

Choosing to get into tech is not wise in 2017+

Posted this in the last thread before it got expired

>Graduate from respectable private university
>Get Certs out of the ass from acclaimed institutions and continue my knowledge at home
>Have 5 years of experience and a internship at a big name place that doesn't hire interns after
>Apply at small to medium companies
>Either "Overqualified" or "We found someone else" which is usually code word for someone who doesn't even fit our qualifications is getting the job because he/she slept with a team member or had a friend who referred them and said friend is influential in office
>don't get me started on the occasional applications I send to big name corporations that never respond
A year and a half since graduation and I want to die a instant but peaceful death; preferably in my sleep

probably white male

>need a self starter willing to roll up sleeves

I've noticed smaller companies do it a lot.

sounds unenforceable

I made $30/hr out of college with great benefits

It isn't

Literally did this and dropped out after that semester "at work." Got my foot into a startup a year later. College and Internships are literally worthless unless your college has connections to an employer you're dying to work with.

>he fell for the trade meme
>brags about built in overtime
>brags about being king of the idiots

My liege I salute you.

>work on HR
>get to deny fat neckbeards and own pajeets all day
Life is gooooood

t.neet

>recruiter has viewed your profile in private mode
>never hear anything again
>rinse lather repeat

Fuck HR
Fuck recruiters
Fuck corporate bullshit
Fuck you

>I can't afford to get dirty, I already look like an ogre

If you're actually smart, you'll work at a trade for a few years while you're young and save enough money to pay for education that you might need if your body starts failing you. Your vigor is a great resource and not utilizing it because you think you're somehow above the work is stupid.

...

I got hired 9 months after I sperged and deleted my LinkedIn over shit like this. Turns out once you get rid of all these stupid/lazy/hr connections, you have more motivation to network in ways that matter.

Damn right. Should've worn some blackface.

Even if you don't have a car, having a license is pretty useful since it's a form of official legal identification. I had a license years before I had a car

>entry level
>bachelor's degree required
>4+ years experience required

Cars are so hilariously cheap in America, literally no excuse unless you're some nig living in an inner city

stay in school kiddo

never happened

never happened

Labor should not be respected, but paid, they say

hygihgi8hhiu

I see this shit on almost every position and profession.
>Graduated, almost no experience, but company's need a fully forged specialist.

>local restaurant offers unpaid internships to students who need the work experience to get bartending and waitressing jobs

I don't even know how the heck they got away with it for so long, and actually managed to get employees (???) but they stopped once the local newspaper printed a front page story about it.

As someone looking to get into IT, I'd take it and leave within 6 months to a year for greener pastures.

Literally strike that entire section out and tell them you won't work for them under these conditions.

A lot of companies these days don't really need the labor that badly. Well, they need it badly enough to whine but not nearly badly enough to raise pay or train people. They just leave positions open so that if the perfect person comes along and applies, they can take them. Waiting six months to get someone superlative is better in their eyes than taking whoever is available now and then trying to train them. Less trouble and less risk.

This except my contract says everything I develop on work equiptment cannot be owned by me. Really read that fine print boys.

Actually, if you are smart and young and vigorous you should just work and go to school during the early years.

I am about to graduate with 5 years work exp and no debt because I paid my tuition from my wages.

Trades are a meme because they are low barrier to entry and tied to the strength of the economy.

If economy goes great demand for trade goes up which pulls in more people. Then when economy goes down it leaves an over saturated market.

College degree is high barrier to entry. Economy goes great people cant quickly enter your profession so you get to squeeze employers.

Think of all the fuckfaces who just happened to be in "data science" when it became the big buzz word. It will take years for those salaries to come down as current graduates respond to the demand.


Compare solar panel installation. Literally everyone and there grandmother became solar panel installers over night. Companies were even offering programs to train you for free. Wages


Not to mention that people compare trade wages to college degree wages, but forget that trades are 90% dudes and college degree holders are 55% women.

If you compare wages+benefits of male tradesmen to wages+ benefits of male degree holder trades get btfo hard.

Even harder if you restrict degree holders to something like buisness majors(known for being mind numbingly ez but well paying).

Everytime I see a tradie I get triggered because people around me are literally attempting to go backwards in generational educational obtainment.
>my dad was a banker, but college is a scam bro!!! I wanna be a bricklayer!!!! Unions are scams too bro!!! Look at all this overtime!!!!

t.economics student

Holyshit I did not need to rant that hard.

Sorrry thread.

>they were simply complying with the US govt's mininum mandatory number of hours they must spend searching for domestic candidates before they can get granted a pajeet visa.
This is extremely common. And the Pajeets literally have a high-school level education. They're fucking morons.

$37.05/hr by moving from company to company. Last and current were/are enterprise positions and I'm interviewing for ~$45/hr at a major ISP.

In my company whenever we look through CVs of potential new employees, having a degree is seen negatively, as it often means more paid leave and rarely brings actual skill to the table.
Nowadays the market is so oversaturated with college graduates that it simply doesn't matter much, the 4-5 year investment just isn't worth it unless you go into engineering or shit like that AND you either have the talent or willingness to bust your ass.
My friend who has master's in robotics is working an undeclared tradie-tier job fixing elevators because he fell for the "STEM degree = 6 figures starting" meme.