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>Haha, America is only 60% white!
>Haha, American police are killing minorities
WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US!?

They want you to destroy yourselves.

Shouldn't have touched her gun.

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Why didn't they just use taser?

Fucking kek'd when he shot that dude 5 times in the head

lmfao he shot him in the face like 3 times

When will this end?

It's funny how unprofessional police was there. Pulling gun on unarmed man that doesn't pose a threat. Thanks to police shootings being so common man goes full panic mode and fights for his life. Policewoman loses control of the gun and to contain the situation her partner mag dumps the suspect in the face.

Women shouldn't be cops

Nice b8

In America it's either you come very peacefully or you are killed, it's one extreme to another. The lad deserved it though.

I agree this guy deserved it, it was just funny

this

>fight the cops
>people are surprised to him getting shot

C'mon now.

This, how did that fucking behemoth make it into the force?

If it was a man he could have dealt with that without bloodshed, also do yank police not carry batons.

Over here the lad would probably have been asked nicely to get of the bus, because he's not armed. Then if he started fighting around 10 cops would swarm him with batons and tasers.. kek. Still ends non-lethally though.

>try to steal cops handgun
>leftists cry because he gets heemd

He deserved nothing else.

Fucking female cops getting people unecessarily kiled

>b8
I don't see the guy posing any kind of threat up until he started wrestling for the gun. Cops in "cucked" countries would just throw themselves at the guy, handcuff and take him away. Maybe tase him.

You wouldn't say that in the same situation if you were a police officer with access to a firearm. He has a fire extinguisher in his hands, why should the police take a risk? Drawing your weapon is a good deterrent for Criminals carrying blunt objects or trying to get away. She said "don't move". That's literally all he had to do and he'd be alive.

She was like twice the size of the spic and she still got overpowered

wjiw that's some lousy police work

dammmm ésse

Unfortunately, tasers are extremely unreliable. They easily get snagged on clothes or fail to hook, which renders them pretty much useless. If you're in a life or death situation, you want to use what you know will work.
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We do have batons, some cops hollow it out an put metal piping in the center,

fat=/=muscle

What's the backstory? What was he doing?

african-americans are the most violent ethnic group in the world. not even a meme. if some feral buck nigger started charging you and you had a gun, you'd shoot it too.

Nice.

>We do have batons, some cops hollow it out an put metal piping in the centre,
Then why didn't they just charge onto the bus without the gun and smack the fuck out of that cunt?

He's clearly not armed, but even if you want more saftey have one officer with a gun out at a distance like the male one was, and have the female (although in this case, she's fucking useless) charge the guy and hit the fuck out of him.

Yeah but unless you're a black belt in bjj someone that much larger than you is going to be naturally stronger if you're equally untrained. Plus she is a cop so she should know how to handle someone especially a manlet spic

There are actual Americans who are OK with this.

We all know american cops are trained like shit.
Theres plenty of evidence about that.

Because of this

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Also his life is forfeit when he attacks police officers and goes for their gun.

Damn straight

so this is how they cure you of anemia in America

Cops are taught to pull their guns in confrontation because the initiator of an attack always has the advantage

>spic fights the cops
>gets killed

life goes on

eww...I can't laugh...

>clearly not armed
What are pockets

>America
>cop tells you to get out the ID
>try to get it
>get shot
It's a fucking fire extinguisher nigger, you are supposed to tase if you are too scared of hand to hand. Did he even have it in his hands when he was at the door?

>Oklahoma City Police released security camera footage on July 18, showing the fatal shooting of Miguel Angel Chavez-Angles on a public bus. Chavez-Angles, 42, was shot and killed on June 24 after throwing a fire extinguisher and trying to seize a gun from one of the officers on the metro bus. Oklahoma City Police said the officers were responding to a vandalism report and Chavez-Angles had fled to the bus after jumping into another vehicle.

When he directly refused to stop moving he became a threat so the police drew their guns. Totally appropriate. He could have had any kind of concealed weapon. He did go for the fire extinguisher too. You can say you'd have fought him hand to hand, but why would you risk your safety or your partners safety because you want to be a badass? His threw the dice and attacked them at the expense of the officers safety and got what he asked for.

Is it really standard practice to charge at the suspect with the gun drawn or is it something you really should only see in movies

>mexican guy was a dumbass for starting the whole thing
>female cop was a dumbass for incessantly pulling her gun out
>male cop had no choice but to shoot dumb mexican because of female cop's mistake

This whole thing just proves that the world would be better with fewer Mexicans and fewer women.

He saw the gun pulled and panicked you retard. What you are doing is pretty much going for the interpretation of situation that leads to someone getting shot as fast as possible which is why US police is shit.

Police is here to protect the citizens first and get the criminal before the court second, not execute them on the spot. Police is supposed to take some fucking risk if they are so afraid they are supposed to choose a more appropriate career choice. Oh no a guy without any weapon might have a knife in his anus better shoot him. This is the big reason for all that BLM shit and cop hunts.

It seemed like an ill advised respond in the heat of the moment from that woman. Most cops with guns drawn try to keep their distance until the person is willing top comply or they are advised to take him down.

Seems to me like she triggered the fight-or-flight response except there was nowhere to flee. A cornered, desperate animal with no time for reflection. That's not even psychology territory, that's hardwired in all vertebrates

No, he was being unruly before she pulled the gun and refused to comply. Re-watch is she said don't move before pulling her gun.

>What you are doing is pretty much going for the interpretation of situation that leads to someone getting shot as fast as possible which is why US police is shit.

And what you are doing is trivializing the officers lives for the sake of an unhinged crazy bastard telling people to get off the bus and refusing to listen to the officers while he attack them.

>Police is here to protect the citizens first and get the criminal before the court second, not execute them on the spot.

They do protect people, the world is not a fairy tale, if someone attacks a police officer they get shot.

>Police is supposed to take some fucking risk

Police officers do take risks. They still aren't going to prioritize a criminals life over their own in one of these scenarios. Nor should they.

>Oh no a guy without any weapon might have a knife in his anus better shoot him. This is the big reason for all that BLM shit and cop hunts.

You like to dismiss the notion a criminal who's willing to fight police officers might have a weapon. This is why we get so many videos coming out of Europe with cops heads smashed in or shredded abdomens.

lol for real...if they say dont move and you move its legal for them to shoot you just do wtf they say its simple he was clearly a fucking criminal

>desperate animal
That's not different than how they usually are

You are meanwhile trivializing the lives of anyone on the other side of gun forgetting we have courts for that shit.
>Police officers do take risks. They still aren't going to prioritize a criminals life over their own in one of these scenarios. Nor should they.
Your definition of the world is another fairy tale whether you either kill or are killed. Cops was justified in shooting him after he got access to the gun but that happened entirely out of incompetence and bringing a gun to a situation where everyone was unarmed.
>You like to dismiss the notion a criminal who's willing to fight police officers might have a weapon
He didn't have a weapon, you can assume a fucking naked man has a knife hidden in his anus and refuse to just wrestle him to the ground 2 vs 1 or use a fucking taser. I would really like you to tell me about those poor cops in Europe not getting shot back in retaliation.

If they don't know the basics of how vertebrates react to stress they should not be officers or even employed in the service industry

>You are meanwhile trivializing the lives of anyone on the other side of gun forgetting we have courts for that shit.

I'm not, had he complied and not attacked them he would of seen the inside of that court. You don't get except from hostile actions with police officers because you panic, sorry.

>Your definition of the world is another fairy tale whether you either kill or are killed. Cops was justified in shooting him after he got access to the gun but that happened entirely out of incompetence and bringing a gun to a situation where everyone was unarmed.

And you don't know the M.O of any confrontation. The attacker always has the advantage, this is why they draw their gun. To nullify that advantage. Like I said, we don't live in a fairy tale where we can just ask criminals to fight fair if they are going to resist.

>He didn't have a weapon, you can assume a fucking naked man has a knife hidden in his anus and refuse to just wrestle him to the ground 2 vs 1 or use a fucking taser. I would really like you to tell me about those poor cops in Europe not getting shot back in retaliation.

He could have. Given the context I've already explained, they pulled their weapons appropriately. The only shot when he attacked.

>Shot back in retaliation

That's a nice cop out. The people who've shot cops at random are murderers.

Nah, she was just stupid. Why draw a gun and rush in alone against a guy that is in a fucking bus? He has nowhere to go anyway, if you really need to shoot him.

Probably just so he can grab her and maybe shoot her. If he was an actual hardened criminal, she would be dead.

I see no problem. The dumb beaner clearly tried to go for her gun. But of course cuck Yuropoors wil say he dindu nuffin.

If you're going to fucking say "he was scared, so he had no control over his actions" then you can use the same excuse for the cop

He could of just you know, not tried attacking the police when she followed him into the bus? Stupid as it was too follow him there was the bus driver to consider.

She was scared, but only after she leeroy jenkins'd that bus and was overpowered

It's harder ti use a baton in a "cramped" environment such as a bus. And the other officer would need to climb over the seats to provide backup.

>Polish delinquent mad his criminal kind got a taste of justice

lmao

He was scared, but only after he got the cops involved

2bf if the police didnt have guns he wouldnt have died.
and the police wouldnt need guns if every fat fuck and his dog didnt have one too

>country where police constantly shots people even when they comply
>surprised some guy goes panic mode when pulled gun at
Him getting shot wasn't a wrong choice of action. Woman pulling a gun was not something that should be punished but a retarded decision that escalated shit. The woman letting him grab her gun because he went into the bus was another retarded decision.

The police fucked up and made a harmless situation into a dangerous one by guntotting when they didn't. You can't really blame anyone for shooting when he already had his hands on the gun but over reliance on guns is something really fucking bad about US police.

That's right the criminal element that shoot people totally buy registered fire arms instead of buying them off the black market.

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You think why black market has easy access to guns?

that fucking whale fucked everything up, fucking cringe

>>country where police constantly shots people even when they comply

I've seen few examples of unjustified shootings.

>surprised some guy goes panic mode when pulled gun at

So if Criminals panic they get off the hook and dindunoffin, got it.

>Woman pulling a gun was not something that should be punished but a retarded decision that escalated shit

You're parroting yourself after I've explained why that was the appropriate course of action. Saying "It's retarded" is not an argument.

>The woman letting him grab her gun because he went into the bus was another retarded decision.

Charging in was ill advised, but she didn't fire until after he went for the gun. She might have had ample reason for going in the bus like say the sake of the bus driver.

>The police fucked up and made a harmless situation into a dangerous one by guntotting when they didn't. You can't really blame anyone for shooting when he already had his hands on the gun but over reliance on guns is something really fucking bad about US police.

If you're just going to be repeating yourself instead of responding and you are this divorced from reality I can make a suggestion. Go to south central Los Angeles and try to go all vigilantly on the crazy people making trouble on buses.

Because they import large numbers of high capacity quality fire arms from illegal arm dealers the world over and also domestically? There is one gun for every twelve people on the planet, DUDE JUST BAN GUNS LMAO.

I am sorry but fucking results speak about effectiveness. Unarmed criminal almost gets his hand on a gun and has to be shot in panic. Unarmed intervention would end up with him on the ground with bruises and maybe some bruises on the police.

All your arguments are pretty much b-but he could've killed someone and typical bullshit used to justify dumping mags into everything that moves. It's not about some justification for killing the criminal because he could've been a threat, it's about results. You might justify police actions as much as you want but if the bodies pile up needlessly we are gonna get even more police shootings.

>Unarmed intervention would end up with him on the ground with bruises and maybe some bruises on the police.

You don't know that for a fact at all. What if he had a weapon, this is about the self preservation and survival of the officers. All he had to do was comply.

>All your arguments are pretty much b-but he could've killed someone and typical bullshit used to justify dumping mags into everything that moves.

Well yeah, I'm making a justification because it's justifiable. Listen and comply to police officers, don't attack them and you'll live. Very straight forward and effective I assure you.

>It's not about some justification for killing the criminal because he could've been a threat, it's about results.

Results? Violent crime and homicide has been declining for decades. It's the lowest it's ever been.

>You might justify police actions as much as you want but if the bodies pile up needlessly we are gonna get even more police shootings

Sensationalist horseshit. Crime is at an all time low in America. If criminals really want guns, they will get them under the table and illegally. Europe on the other hand is getting more violent.

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I've never even shot a gun. I'm trying to be objective. This Polish guy is the one emotionally invested in this.

The absolute worst thing about the massive shithole that is America is that Americans will always try to justify their massive retardation.

Europoops as per usual name calling with smug self righteousness while their continent descends into chaos.

>You don't know that for a fact at all. What if he had a weapon, this is about the self preservation and survival of the officers. All he had to do was comply.
What fucking ifs with no decent grounding in reality.
>Listen and comply to police officers, don't attack them and you'll live. Very straight forward and effective I assure you.
Don't do crime and you will live I assure you, what do you mean shooting that potato thief was going over the board.
>Results? Violent crime and homicide has been declining for decades. It's the lowest it's ever been.
Which you automatically link to cops fucking their job up? Why not say it's some educational reforms or cops getting progressively less violent?
>Sensationalist horseshit. Crime is at an all time low in America. If criminals really want guns, they will get them under the table and illegally. Europe on the other hand is getting more violent.
What Europe? Europe is tens of countries even including shitholes like Russia. Also nice job calling police killings sensational bullshit.

>Europeans
That's not a thing.

>What fucking ifs with no decent grounding in reality.

Pot meet kettle

>Don't do crime and you will live I assure you, what do you mean shooting that potato thief was going over the board.

If you're going to create a totally different hypothetical situation, make sure you pick a good one. A civilian shooting a thief does not correlate to officers protecting their own lives. In your hypothetical the civilian would be imprisoned.

>Which you automatically link to cops fucking their job up? Why not say it's some educational reforms or cops getting progressively less violent?

So, the effectiveness of the enforcement of law has had no effect on people following the law? Wew. The police have broken multiple criminal organizations in the past two decades. Must have been education that took down MS 13 on the east coast.

>What Europe? Europe is tens of countries even including shitholes like Russia. Also nice job calling police killings sensational bullshit.

Yes, your tiny ass continent. Violent crime has been hitting your vicariously anti-gun countries the most in recent years.

Fuck off vanu scum Terran Republic for life

>If you're going to create a totally different hypothetical situation, make sure you pick a good one. A civilian shooting a thief does not correlate to officers protecting their own lives. In your hypothetical the civilian would be imprisoned.
A fucking leaf being braindead. There are different types of refusal to comply and crimes and you basically go a-okay with police gunning shit down.
>The police have broken multiple criminal organizations in the past two decades.
It would be fucking bad if they didn't crack any in the past two decades. And again you fucking link the thing that you like (killing people fast and cops being incompetent in given case) to good thing happening without showing any causation. I am totally sure not having violent but having an educated nation is totally not gonna reduce crime.
>Yes, your tiny ass continent. Violent crime has been hitting your vicariously anti-gun countries the most in recent years.
Ok not even any countries or statistics and directly blaming police not shooting people enough on that.

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>A fucking leaf being braindead. There are different types of refusal to comply and crimes and you basically go a-okay with police gunning shit down.

Yes, do poles understand context? These are different scenarios. The police need you too comply, civilians don't have the authority and cannot shoot thieves unless their life is at risk. Subtle difference.

>It would be fucking bad if they didn't crack any in the past two decades. And again you fucking link the thing that you like (killing people fast and cops being incompetent in given case) to good thing happening without showing any causation. I am totally sure not having violent but having an educated nation is totally not gonna reduce crime.

Can you calm down and make your point again coherently?

>Ok not even any countries or statistics and directly blaming police not shooting people enough on that.

Some European countries have different problems, influx of people who don't respect or follow it's laws are definitely one of them and your police are hilariously ineffective at dealing with them. Canada now has Travel warnings for some parts of western Europe because your authorities cannot guarantee our safety. They don't do that lightly.

>Yes, do poles understand context? These are different scenarios. The police need you too comply, civilians don't have the authority and cannot shoot thieves unless their life is at risk. Subtle difference.
Do you understand the point of using the amount of force necessary?
>Can you calm down and make your point again coherently?
Dumb leaf see country that do things. Dumb leaf likes some thing like incompetence police. Dumb leaf see something good and think it was caused by police incompetence. Dumb leaf think that just because police managed to do some things right that means that they are working 100% fine even in cases they don't.
>Some European countries have different problems, influx of people who don't respect or follow it's laws are definitely one of them and your police are hilariously ineffective at dealing with them. Canada now has Travel warnings for some parts of western Europe because your authorities cannot guarantee our safety. They don't do that lightly.
Wait so you blame terrorism on cops not using their guns on unarmed criminals that pose little danger?

Were they interns or something?

>Do you understand the point of using the amount of force necessary?

I do though, I thought that was your issue?

>Dumb leaf see country that do things. Dumb leaf likes some thing like incompetence police. Dumb leaf see something good and think it was caused by police incompetence. Dumb leaf think that just because police managed to do some things right that means that they are working 100% fine even in cases they don't.

Well yes, I'd say over-all the modus operandi of American police officers is working better than it ever has. Lower crime and more criminals imprisoned. If you want too complain about certain unjust situations then, by all means do so. The law is being enforced and crime is dropping. Drawing your fire arm in confrontation is perfectly appropriate.

>Wait so you blame terrorism on cops not using their guns on unarmed criminals that pose little danger?

Definitely at times. Not only terrorists but violent foreign youth gangs are a threat that should be neutralized by the gun when they are committing violence. Lethal force hasn't been used since the dawn of civilization because it gets no results.

I am pretty sure more criminals are imprisoned precisely because of police being trigger happy and not engaging in other methods of solving situations than guns. Not because someone is getting more proficient at non violent and non lethal force problem solving.
>Definitely at times. Not only terrorists but violent foreign youth gangs are a threat that should be neutralized by the gun when they are committing violence. Lethal force hasn't been used since the dawn of civilization because it gets no results.
Violence has huge ranges from some drunk guys pushing people to actual acts of terrorism with the use of guns. Police in France and Germany seems to be fine with using lethal force on actual threats like axemen or truck drivers with guns but somehow don't mag dump people they don't need to mag dump.

>I am pretty sure more criminals are imprisoned precisely because of police being trigger happy and not engaging in other methods of solving situations than guns. Not because someone is getting more proficient at non violent and non lethal force problem solving

Then your complaint of trigger happy policemen is hollow when it shows that their methods are working the best and if you comply and don't attack officers, you don't get killed and end up in prison, eh?

>Violence has huge ranges from some drunk guys pushing people to actual acts of terrorism with the use of guns. Police in France and Germany seems to be fine with using lethal force on actual threats like axemen or truck drivers with guns but somehow don't mag dump people they don't need to mag dump.

Not so much a bar fight but actual violent crime definitely should be sorted by the Gun. I heard the other day that some 200,000 crimes were committed by migrant youth gangs in Germany so far this year and that is nearly double than in 2015(That could be inaccurate) but the large majority were violent attacks and robberies. The police definitely should be curbing this behavior by shooting them.

>Then your complaint of trigger happy policemen is hollow when it shows that their methods are working the best and if you comply and don't attack officers, you don't get killed and end up in prison, eh?
Ok so how does a man end up in prison after getting shot lethally? Are you just sneakily using results of entirely different actions to make another action valid?
>The police definitely should be curbing this behavior by shooting them.
No, if they can they should always bring the man before the court. A policeman isn't the Judge, jury and executioner. Shooting is a fine measure to protect citizens where police is too powerless for non lethal actions but apprehension is ideal.

>Tries to grab the gun out of her hands
Deserved to get shot

Same here. Just don't fucking move.

Here when niggers see the cop car, they run. Then they ge captured and cops ask: Why did you ran? and they say: I got scared. Like wtf, if you don't "owe" anything you don't need to be scared.

We also say here that if you shoot any ROTA(São Paulo police spec ops), you're dead. They won't even try to arrest you, they'll go for the kill.

>Ok so how does a man end up in prison after getting shot lethally? Are you just sneakily using results of entirely different actions to make another action valid?

Are we back too odd hypothetical now? I'll play along. He doesn't, he chose his death.Regardless it shows Cops use lethal force when necessary but their methods are working.

>No, if they can they should always bring the man before the court. A policeman isn't the Judge, jury and executioner. Shooting is a fine measure to protect citizens where police is too powerless for non lethal actions but apprehension is ideal.

In life or death situations, their last concern should be for the perpetrators life. In violent situations a Police officers station is too save innocent lives and their own, by violent means when it calls for it. Violent criminals forfeit their own when they threaten others. We as a society have granted the police the authority to do so. It's that simple. The next time a man has a knife too your throat, the cops should just try to tackle him because his life matters and he should stand before a judge? I'd like too see that.

I think our blacks are more violent.

Only a fucking canadian can see a cop killing a person and go that it's why the prison population is increasing. No the methods used in the video aren't working. The improvement must be somehow linked to the mag dump method. Not just saying that look some other cops managed to put bigger % of criminals in prison killing people works.

It's also funny because I keep saying that citizen's life should be the priority, then apprehending the criminal. A good cop should always know though when he is able to do both of those things.

Well, clearly you know better than them. I have to go make dinner now. If you're going to be a bydlo in America then I can see why you're unreasonably upset at criminals getting what they deserve. Good luck.

>bydlo in america
Sorry bud but I have not plans of leaving Poland for now and I am highly educated intellectual. I would totally want to maybe immigrate to Canada if the country goes to shit since I like your PM.