What happened to Native Americans?

An entire continent of people and culture is gone. How weak of a nation must to be to be so easily dominated by other people. Even africans managed to survive (except for south africa). Even native americans that have survived like Incans or Mayan discourage speaking their langage because they are ashamed. Like, how cucked can you get? Native Americans are weak shits.

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If you even cough on them they die. They were a very clean race before the Europeans came

not preciously

europeans were crafty they made the natives fought each other, if they came with the intend of conquering through force they may have ended up like the vikings

at first they came with only a few dozen men then they established trade with the coastal and asked them to lead them to the big controlling group then they do either treaties or more alliances then they built up a few more invasion expeditions and so forth, the subjugation of the natives took hundreds of years

>Even native americans that have survived like Incans or Mayan discourage speaking their langage because they are ashamed.
We are changing it nowadays, we lack a lot of support from the media but somehow we are trying our best... As for me I have a Facebook Group where I help people to learn our language. And always keep on touch with others who are somehow into language-activism and stuff

I cannot deny the situation is discouraging though

They are diluted in our genes (we have an average of 15% Native genes). Kind like what is going to happen to some European countries.

As soon as the natives got their hands on the white mans technology they butchered each other, same with the polynesians.

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Native Americans are commonly confused with Mexicans here. They have integrated with society for the most part and participate in American Capitalism like the rest of us.

Old world people domesticated disgusting unhygenic animals like pigs. Coupled with Old world tendencies not to bathe often old world people through natural selection developed resistances to these diseases over time. Natives on the other hand did not. I think there's estimates out there that 90% of natives died from disease after the post contact period

it was american tier

There are still pockets of natives in America, more so in Bolivia, Peru, Chile, etc. that still retain their culture (although many indians have been latinized). The ones in the US were basically killed off, bred out, or just died off. I think Canadians and Mexicans/central americans have their own sizable populations too.

As much as 95% of them died because of smallpox and several other diseases. Really, what did you want them to do? Become immune magically?

Europeans came in boats, they stepped on the shores with armor, rifles, swords, horses and metal

What they saw was people dwelling in mud huts, in furs, with stone spears.

What the hell did people think was gonna happen?

>europeans were crafty they made the natives fought each other,
Lol okay

Idk man, there's a lot of historical precident of people trading with one another without actually conquering natives.
See Indian Ocean trade

>There are still pockets of natives in America, more so in Bolivia, Peru, Chile, etc. that still retain their culture (although many indians have been latinized)

Yeah, and you forgot about that one country which has majority of native population and has its native language as the official national language.

Ladies and gentlemen, Greenland.

They're still a Danish colony.

They are a self-governing country.

Just like Hong Kong, still not a country.

south africa's still full of black people m80

Basically they fought each other too much after smallpox weakened them, some tribes like the Iroquois built empires to try and fend off further settlement but many others picked the wrong European allies and got fucked in the inevitable wars. Plus we just kept coming, peasants were desperate to leave Europe

Geography enabled extremely advanced pathogens to ravage an isolated population of people who were millennia behind the cultivation of these diseases. But if you insist on looking at this from a chest-thumping perspective; you can thank Genghis Khan, the silk road, and colonialism..

It's true to an extent. The Spaniards made alliance with all the minor groups that the Aztecs had conquered and enslaved and used them to fight the Aztecs.

Most of the ones that have remained on reservations take their culture and ancestors very seriously. They're happy to take your money but many are resentful of white people for the crimes of our forefathers that resulted in them being stuck on trailer parks in the middle of nowhere. Can't say I blame them.

And also the British used some natives to kill others during colonisation of the north (and used these same tribes to fight the rebels and traitors).

They lived in tents in the middle of nowhere before we showed up, so it's not like this is a big change for them.

That's cool.

One of these days I'm going to study one of the indigenous languages of Mexico (either Nahuatl, because it has the most learning material, or Mixteco, because I can easily find people who speak it).

Good luck with your project, even partial survival/revival of a language is a good thing in my eyes.

>I have a Facebook Group where I help people to learn our language
Best of luck with that. Language is the most vital part of any culture imo.

>Native Americans are weak shits.
After 200 hundred years, the Mapuche are still fighting back against Chile You SEA fucks are the weak cunts.

Must be nice living in the US, you can easily find native speakers from any fucking language.

Instead of stupid sjw stuff, why don't American leftists fight for more Native American rights, preservation of culture and such? They are so focused on foreign immigrants and have completely ignored the indigenous people. :/

True, but it was colonial nation's who saw easy pickings that found the Americas

Savages belong in a museum. They can't live in their own culture any more.

Also,
>expecting leftists to want to conserve, preserve, or protect anything

>I'm going to study one of the indigenous languages of Mexico

That's pretty cool, I wish you the best of lucks as well. And thank you for joining this "battle against history".

Props to them, they are one of the most active groups when it comes to preserve their culture, they are kind of revolutionary... "Marichi wew"

They are very much alive here. They have constitutional rights,their culture is well preserved in some parts.

Yes but they could move their tent to another part of nowhere, now they're stuck in tiny spots of land without being able to hunt, gather, fish etc. As their ancestors did for millennia before them.

Natives to the USA are basically genetically the same to native Mexicans, and they're still around in the form of Mestizos with very little Spanish heritage.

It is pretty nice to be honest. And I live in (probably) the most linguistically diverse state, too. Feels good man.

I don't know. It bothers me. I think it's because Native Americans themselves don't have much opportunity to advocate for their causes, so they don't get much publicity in the mainstream, so we're left with people acting as though Native Americans are actually all dead and a thing of the past because the only thing people know is the historical stuff, but next to nothing about the current conditions of Native American communities. So to most people, their issues are basically invisible. Any mention of Native Americans is usually past-tense.

I don't even know much about the issues of their communities, and to my knowledge I don't know very many native North American people (I do know alot of indigenous Mexican people, though). I feel uncomfortable speaking about what I percieve as their struggles because I don't actually know anyone from their community.

We should just import Mexicans and make them speak Cherokee lol

Do you know who else is basically extinct? The native European hunter-gatherers. They were also absorbed into the gene pool of other populations like the Amerindians did yet nobody ever mentions that. Actually, it's not even that comparable because there are still nations that are majority Amerindian like Peru and Bolivia while there's no country where Euro hunter-gatherers still exist without being heavily diluted.

It wasn't one nation and amny of those tribes fought to their extinction even having nothing but bows and arrows to fight Europeans with firearms. And the culture is not completely gone, nor is the people, my country is a descendant of native Americans in blood and spirit. It's not a choice between being a Westerner or a native American you can be both, much the same as Europeans throughout their history have mingled their cultures, ever heard of Anglo-Saxons? That was a conquest too and it produced a unique people. It took centuries to conquer the Americas, we were still fighting the Maya in the early 20th century so that was about 400 years, how long did it take to colonize you?

15% is the North rate.

Average is 10% or less.

Me quiero unir

There really isn't much value to being a native. This idea of preserving culture gets silly, people think it means rejecting technology. Nobody wants to drink dirty water and live in a mud hut and then die of dysentery.

Native Americans were out gunned and out bred. Reservations are as retarded as the Amish.

p. good post for a limey.

Sami.

Haha, get muh dicked you filthy south american natives.

To some extent I agree although there's something to be said for self rule, myself my native American heritage is reduced to being 1/16th Yaqui (curiously enough that guy married an Irish girl so all my non Iberic heritage comes from that one weird couple) I have sometimes felt the impulse the impulse to seek out members of the tribe and try to learn some traditions but unfortunately it somehow feels ridiculous in the real world, like a white guy playing Indian... Having said that the problem that we debate in my country is integration without asimilation, meaning precissely how do we get them to raise their living standards without destroying their culture. In Chiapas the indigenmous people that were part of the EZLN went commie, they're not exactly wealthy but the model seems to have worked for them as its a better fit for their communal lifestyle than the admitedly extremely cionsumerist Mexican mainstream. The important thing is THEY get to decide their own future...

>self-governing country
They're an amt. A county with autonomy on their own legislature and recently their own natural resources. We still manage external affairs and security.

However that doesn't say much when a large part of the population is dependent on Danish welfare and healthcare because they drink themselves to death on a daily basis.

Captcha included El Corte Inglés...

This, honestly. Keeping people poor for the sake of muh culture is dumb.

any sacrifices?

They sold their nation for shiny beads and diseased blankets.

Nah, those were the aztecs.

It wasn't one nation. There were tons of them -- hundreds, thousands even -- spread across two continents (or one megacontinent if you speak a language that considers the Americas a single continent), with their own politics and different cultures and languages and religions and customs and conflicts -- oh boy those conflicts. It's all actually really really interesting.

Also they didn't have horses or gunpowder, and we brought a bunch of diseases that they had no exposure, and likewise no resistance, to. And, while there were some cultures that used metal armor and weapons (bronze armor and bronze weapons had been used by civilizations in the Andes since at least the early Moche, possibly earlier), they weren't on the level of 15th+ Century European steel - most cultures used stone because the really developed areas tended to be really fucking hot, and the ones that made use of metal weapons hadn't run out of tin (which was basically what forced people in Eurasia to start using iron (and early iron, while incredibly common, and vastly better than tin or copper, was basically inferior to bronze for quite a while)) and so were still basically bronze age.

Also, again, no horses and no gunpowder.

>Also they didn't have horses or gunpowder, and we brought a bunch of diseases
>and we brought
>we

stopped reading

>le guns steel n germs meme

We as in non-natives. Please try to contain your trigger fits.

Oh you, just free Patani to their own rule already. Stop the bloodshed and fights for freedom of their people.

Dont know about the rest but the majority are dying out. Leading cause of death among them is suicide (right next to deaths due to drinking) or they are marrying outside their own people leading to the decline of their culture. Sad really.

I think they are the only group of people who can go full blown Sup Forums and no one can tell them they can't.

Thai people aren't indigenous to what is Thailand today, you know. Thai people, too, went and took over Southeast Asia from the Khmers, Mons, and Malays and made Siam.

If all cultures were preserved today we would have a million countries.

American leftists do do that though. It's just not as prominent.

MEZTIZOOOS XDDDD :DDDD

Mayan prudes...

>Even native americans that have survived like Incans or Mayan discourage speaking their langage because they are ashamed.

Some indians are but Mayas definitely aren't; we're nationalistic as fuck. Especially the last two generations that have grown up after indigenous languages were made official government languages.

Are you the Mexican in Argentina?

>Are you the Mexican in Argentina?
wat

All the hunter gatherer Native American groups have largely died out or been diluted into larger groups. The Amerindians who are still around in very large numbers are the direct decedents of the Maya, Inca, Aztec, Mixtec and Southwest US Natives, whom were urbanized.

The EZLN as both a socialist and modern leftist movement is pretty polarizing amongst the indigenous in Chiapas. On one hand, the EZLN placed importance on indigenous actually being treated as humans and was in favor of redistributing ejido lands back to the indigenous who are largely seen as the rightful owners of the farmlands in the state. But, on the other hand Maya society works a bit like a fusion of hardline capitalism bordering on libertarianism and strict social roles and community morals tend to be seen as more important than individualism, much like in most East Asian cultures. The Zapatista movement basically had to transform to suit the native ideology. They're not really commies in practice. Now they're a weird socialist-libertarian hybrid. They're basically like a militia set on protectionism that ensures safety from outer economic incursion while allowing the Maya unrestricted hyper-capitalist trade amongst themselves informally and taxlessly while also pressing village level policies that are basically described as morally and culturally driven anarchic socialism mixed with minarchism. As a result, the EZLN friendly communities are not rich but they are also no longer grossly impoverished, and the natives there are largely economically and cultural self reliant, which allows the indigenous to see themselves as their own free, self governed community with their own take on modernization. I could go on more, but I'm already using too many isms in my rambling. Basically what you said is right, and self determination while introducing modern policies to the old culture where beneficial is the correct route. Basically a bunch of tiny Meiji revolutions for each indigenous group, each with it's own unique social specifics.

>There are still pockets of natives in America
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas

>United States: 2.9–5 million

That's more than just a few pockets, mate.

Thailand you had the luxury of never being colonized so please have some sympathy

there are millions in fully autonomous nations across the country, virtually all americans are within driving distance of one

I tell you what, give me one of those and let people ask what happened to me on the internet, see how I do

Nothing in Central and South America, most of the population are amerindians or mestizos. In the US and Canada, well, it's a mistery.

>implying those tribes weren't already fighting and hadn't been fighting for years upon years