>One of the many things that leaked before the iPhone X event this week was the A11 Bionic’s impressive performance. We already knew we were looking at a six-core 10nm chip going into Apple’s press conference, because the first Geekbench scores were already spotted. Those numbers were far beyond our wildest dreams, showing performance gains unseen in any other smartphone. Those scores appear to be the real deal, which means the iPhone X’s brand new chip is now more powerful that the Intel chips powering some of Apple’s 2017 MacBook Pros.
>Geekbench 4 single-core tests average around 4169, while multi-core have a 9836 average. But they can go up to 4274 and 10438, as found by MacRumors. That’s much better than the 10.5-inch iPad Pro (3887 and 9210 average scores), which isn’t surprising, considering that the 2017 iPads have A10X chips inside.
>The highest-end dual-core 13-inch MacBook Pro scores 4592 and 9602 in Geekbench 4 tests. That means the iPhone X is slower in single-core tasks but speedier in multi-core tasks.
>Sure, that doesn’t mean the A11 Bionic can do all the things a desktop CPU does. But, think about the numbers for a second. When has a mobile chip been able to match a desktop processor in raw benchmarks? What other smartphones can offer similar performance? Even with cheating enabled, no Android device can really touch these numbers, and it’ll be interesting to see whether Qualcomm’s next processor can get anywhere close to that.
>The iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus are also powered by the same A11 Bionic chipset.
Apple designed and released with iOS 11, macOS High Sierra, tvOS, and watchOS, a new file system called APFS.
Watch the next generation Macbook (not pro, just Macbook) having an ARM chip, and already there is a macOS port for ARM devices in their HQ, they've made that info public. MAYBE they'll go for a those new low-power AMD ARM processors, since Apple seems to be sticking with AMD for GPU's.
This would drop the price considerably for the low-end Macbooks, people are already fine with having just one USB-C port and a headphone port. A sub-$1000 Macbook would blow sales out of the water.
Charles Evans
>geekbench
Chase Robinson
That's not the point of the article Brian. You know what it means.
Elijah Bell
Yeah but will it unlock?
Elijah Phillips
Applel also moved a bunch of iOS engineers over to the Mac team. Why? So that they can turn the Mac into an iPad with a keyboard.
The Mac is toast. I don't think there are many generations left. Steve Jobs never wanted his customers to have a real computer; he wanted them to have an appliance that could only do the things that he allowed it do do, while taking a cut of all sales for the platform. That's exactly what the walled garden of iDevices is.
Owen Martin
It's the only cross platform benchmark, since everyone else is being paid bigbucks to prevent that kind of examination. Of course, you already knew that Brian.
Logan Bailey
>iPad with a keyboard.
You mean this?
Thomas Anderson
>ARM >laptop
Anthony Jones
>edgy teens, the post
Levi Baker
Just gonna leave this here...
Hunter Garcia
So what you're saying is Apple doesn't just need to drop Intel's shit CPUs, but also Intel's shit modems? Gotcha!
Parker Bell
>This would drop the price considerably for the low-end Macbooks Only for applel
Jayden Wood
>benchmark created for ARM ambient >runs like shit on x86 Geekbench is the new superpi.
Matthew Morris
wow, who cares
Jace Brooks
Apple moved them over because feature design for iOS was far exceeding things for macOS.
Look at how many apps Apple itself has created on the iOS App Store - the High Sierra release combined with the VR/AR stuff Apple has for the Mac is going to drive a desire for non-mobile device purchases again.
Jordan White
>benchmark created for ARM ambient que? It was created for PPC Macs...
Samuel Cruz
>being this ignorant
Go back to the Donald
Nolan Williams
Very nice. Apple users are too stupid to have root privileges on a laptop. The iOS devices is a case in point.
Matthew Rivera
see It's been explained itt already why geekbench is shit but apparently people who can read are the ignorant ones lmao
Bentley Bailey
laugh all you want but let's not forget intel atom processors were pretty standard for that weird era of netbooks. Worked for what its customer base was, normies going online. Give ARM development a year or two more and it'll be at the same level or better than the atom chips.
>You mean this? Not exactly... but We are seeing keyboards on iPads. We aren't seing touch screens on Macs. That should tell you what Applels intentions are.
>edgy teens, the post Piss off. You know I'm right.
>Apple moved them over because feature design for iOS was far exceeding things for macOS. Is that your way of saying the Mac will shift to iOS?
> High Sierra release combined with the VR/AR stuff Apple has for the Mac is going to drive a desire for non-mobile device purchases again. I doubt it. Big box computers will always have a place, but mobile devices are what is driving the market today. Mobile devices make up the majority of internet traffic already. Applel doesn't care about 'grandpas' computer he used to play solitare on. Applel cares about the teenage girl with ADHD having to buy the newest pink phone every year.
Lincoln Gomez
A teenage girl can't afford it. They target working people with money.
Ian Turner
It also has the same on x86. So the comparisons are still useful >but it's only a comparison of ARM's crypto processor vs Intel's crypto processor for some of the tests so it sucks!!!!one Encryption is a major part of life on modern operating systems, leaving the comparisons out would be disingenuous and using a non-accelerated codepath would be equally disingenuous unless the test was performed as such to show how much processors without specialised crypto IP blocks.
Julian Scott
Actually root access is pretty easy. You can do it from the Terminal application or reboot into Single-User mode and run a few commands.
Apple's been good about keeping the pro features, just hidden so people don't fuck up. I prefer it. I'm not checking muh tempies all the time with desktop littered with background apps telling me what's going on with my computer at that very second. Shit is all hidden until I need it.
Zachary Hernandez
>A teenage girl can't afford it. They target working people with money. So her parents? Sounds exactly like their current marketing scheme. A bunch of NEETs who have NEETbux or mommy money.
People with their own hard earned money might buy an iPhone, but at most they'll build a Hackintosh for a PC. No money in Hackintoshes.
Jason Clark
>fox_and_the_grapes.efi
Leo Walker
This. Nobody needs 1,000 Mbps LTE. In fact we can make due with 1Mbps 3G.
Hell we don't even need 1440p screens, 360p ones are more than enough as well.
Tyler Long
Well if Intel's CPUs are jsut as shit as their modems and Qualcomm has them beat in modems - then it stands that if Apple created their own modem, they should be able to beat out Qualcomm at significantly less power consumption. Nice work user, Brian is going to be very mad.
Xavier Gonzalez
Nice tech-illiterate blog you have there, bro. I love how they pretend like geekbench scores across platforms mean shit.
Daniel Torres
iOS was built on Mac OS Leopard in 2006. I'm gonna be the asshole who gets to say he lives in silicon valley and has friends working at HQ and have been for 15+ years. I found this out after 3.x was released.
Back when I used to jailbreak all my devices, you could clearly see the root of the filesystem and it was the exact same as OS X. Library, System, Extensions, and the front page with your apps was Springboard.app that loaded on startup. In a sense, iPhone OS 1.x was an entireley striped down version of OS X (probably was able to because it still supported PowerPC G3 computers at the time). They never wrote a new operating system, just did major modifications.
So no - they're not turning macOS into iOS. If anything, they're attempting to get iOS and macOS to become one, without compromising anything. Which is actually now a possibility technologically.
Dominic Cox
What about streaming media?
Angel Wright
This, apple makes quality hardware 100% of the time that never ever overheats and makes batteries explode.
>So no - they're not turning macOS into iOS. If anything, they're attempting to get iOS and macOS to become one, without compromising anything. Which is actually now a possibility technologically. What difference does it make. The goal is the same: Merge the Mac into an iDevice and put it in the walled garden. RIP general purpose computer
Mason Perez
So what you're saying is Apple should stop trusting external battery providers and make their own batteries too? Tim Cook must be loving this shit, you're like the biggest proponent of vertical integration I've seen for a long time user! Keep fighting the good fight.
Jayden Lee
Bring it to the desktop then.
Jonathan Brown
Ok retard
Jonathan Hall
you need gigabit speed on a phone with 1 user? Are you using 2 4K streams at a time on a 1800mah battery?
Dominic Hill
Apple's iPhone/iOS sales are what has been driving the company for the past 10 years without a doubt. They're fucking brilliant, however, with sacrificing the need to have the best and newest tech in their devices.
In 2007 if you asked someone on the street what Bluetooth was, there's a high chance they'd have no idea what the fuck you were talking about. A majority of the world was running Windows XP, didn't have a fucking clue what RAM or hard drive size meant, and anyone in IT could make a killing for simple house calls. Fuck, Skype and video chatting were still new.
Apple comes in with an iPhone and then spends 10 years introducing new products with software filled with features, some cool and some just stupid, but every release of a product would have some new technology that Apple would explain to the normies. Now, the general population has a much better understanding of technology. Apple can now spend its time doing some serious R&D on high end machines (eGPUs are key right now) since everyone has become really familiar with what tech parts are which and how to use the devices they buy
Andrew Reed
>Hell we don't even need 1440p screens [on a phone] But this is true though...
Jayden Brooks
I predict they will take a hit in sales this year due to scarcity of supply on iphoneX and people not upgrading to 8's in droves like their normal upgrade cycle. Next years phone will be the real deal and I doubt they will split their high end after this.
Dominic Mitchell
what the fug to people use their phones for? i only use mine to text people or lurk on here using mimi.
i cannot believe that people are needing the power of a laptop or desktop cpu in their phone. im 90% sure that the majority of users just use social media and google apps on their phones right?
is all this power really needed?
Ryder Long
I'm honestly going to get it BECAUSE of the very nice OLED 2.0 display and I'm interested in developing for AR and this seems like THE platform to do it with, literally wouldn't give a shit about anything else as long as those 2 were there
Samuel Thompson
>geekbench kek, fake news
Jayden Barnes
>is all this power really needed?
of course not
Charles Harris
they don't need it, but geekbench is also shit and that CPU isnt on laptop level in real use.
Tyler Wright
if you notice the top 100 most downloaded apps on both google store and apple store, it's always apps that can run on toaster tier phones.
these flagship phones are nothing but a huge waste of money just so people can have the latest thing. you don't need 6GB to shitpost on clover or use whatsapp, you don't need a 2GHz octa core to run candy crush, you don't need a 2560x1440 screen to make a video call, etc.
Adrian Scott
>gigabit LTE >You can now drain your entire data cap in less than a minute!!
Brayden Price
>Apple's iPhone/iOS sales are what has been driving the company for the past 10 years without a doubt. My point exactly. The iDevices are pretty good, and for normies, do everything they want most of the time.
>Apple can now spend its time doing some serious R&D on high end machines (eGPUs are key right now) since everyone has become really familiar with what tech parts are which and how to use the devices they buy Why? Who is going to use those? A handfull of content creators? It's of minor concern to Applel. At the point in time when they want to kill/merge the Mac with the iPad, they just change a couple lines of code in Xcode and it will work on Windows/Linux/whatever - no more need for a Mac to develop on anymore.
Noah Jenkins
thinking of buying a phone. >Is the OnePlus 5 good for the next couple years? Was going to buy the S8+ but then realized I don't want to get shylocked out of 300 buckaroos.
Aaron Miller
>do everything they want most of the time. except for really basic stuff the developrs dont want you doing since its so locked down. Such as youtube background playback.
Julian Lopez
>data caps What third world shithole are you living in? There won't be any SOCs substantially better than SD835 in the next few years, so you're set. And OP5 is getting Oreo and P.
Oliver White
>What third world shithole are you living in? any place outside eastern EU shitholes.
Jaxson Thompson
>what the fug to people use their phones for? simultaneously mirroring everything you're doing and sending it to US gov and whoever wants to buy it without affecting your user experience. :^)
Liam Rivera
>real time surveillance BASED APPLE
Isaiah Morales
This. The human eye can't see past 144p.
Aaron Jenkins
We have unlimited high speed internet in tmobile. In fact their mvno offers unlimited high speed data for $40/month.
Cooper Miller
>except for really basic stuff the developrs dont want you doing since its so locked down. Such as youtube background playback. >developers want Make no mistake, a developer didn't make that decision. That decision was made by the highest levels of management, probably in some sort of back-room agreement wit Goolag (Eric Schit was a board member of both Applel and Goolag). This was to force eyeballs onto advertisements - so they both (Goolag and Applel) could get paid. It was purely a money grab and everyone knows it.
The locked down of the iDevice isn't a bug, it's a feature - and one of the most central to the walled garden concept. User's aren't in control, the technocrats and media companies are - and by virtue of the reality distortion field, the users have been trained to accept and even prefer this type of overlording controll that would make big brother from 1984 blush.
Logan Sanchez
>Make no mistake, a developer didn't make that decision. Yeah I know. When I say developer I mean the company that made the app.
Benjamin Ross
>Inb4 the phone literally melts or we have some HP BGA tier issues
It was planned obsolescence all along.
Easton Butler
And yet all it's being used for is making animated emojis.
just buy the European version burger, it's better anyways
Asher Fisher
topjej
Anthony Price
It doesn't have support for band 71 lte either
>inb4 "Jist move to muslim land XD"
Brayden Reed
> that cost
High quality grammar journalism there
Colton Thompson
Band 12? Or the newer 600MHz band?
Bentley Fisher
>Taking the bait this hard You faggots are way too gullible.
Joseph Sullivan
Tmobile is unlimited and literally faster then most isps
Chase Howard
I have a terribad ISP.
M-more details plz. What's the catch?
Zachary Reyes
L2 english here from greenland, how would this be corrected?
new 600Mhz one. The one claiming 1000 Mbps download speeds.
Chase Miller
Nothing its $95 for unlimited tethering
Kevin Perez
>$95 Americans, everyone
The catch is bad latency and poor reception btw.
William Price
this is why nobody takes gookbench seriously anymore
STFU, stop ruining it for the rest of us. The more know the slower the speeds will be. I'm getting 40ms latency and 30mbps speeds even during the daytime right now. Literally dropped verizon fios too.
Ethan Edwards
Costs
Adam Taylor
>I'm getting 40ms latency and 30mbps speeds even during the daytime right now. Damn, that's pretty good.
I'm still on 1.5mbps ADSL (miraculously overprovisioned to 3mbps thankyougod), but it's not too expensive for my rural area ($35 a month).
Zachary Lopez
>40ms latency and 30mbps >$95
wow, the absolute STATE of american internet.
William Green
Ahh okay, thank you.
The minimum wage there is like $10/hour. Even after taxes that comes out to ~$1,200. A rented room here is like $600.
Ayden Clark
and minimum wage here in europe is ~1800 USD.
Landon Rivera
We're only just now building out an actual internet infrastructure (fiber).
For the longest time, internet just had to piggyback on whatever existed by the 1980s and '90s, so... >telephone lines (laid down in the Great Depression, usually) >cable lines (owned/operated by companies staffed with people who couldn't get jobs at phone companies) >TV satellite dishes >mobile phone networks We would have resorted to IPoverCitizenBandRadio if it weren't for those things. Such is life on the frontier, I guess. Still, with the price of food and rent being much lower than most of the world, it kinda balances out.
Carter Bailey
Maybe in france or germany but those places are infested with muslims that violently detonate every fucking day. No thank you lol.
Aiden Wright
Says more about the dated specs of the Macbook Pro than it does of their phone processor.
Aiden Hughes
Isn't it like 800 USD after taxes?
Julian Young
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Carter Sanchez
How is it more powerful than an x86 chip it's an arm processor
Colton Lewis
This, how is it better than ryzen and refined core
Jonathan Thomas
That's after taxes. Should note that we don't acctually have a minimum wage, but that's the minimum for uneducated labor.
Sweden. We have the slimes too, but the US has niggers and spics shooting up the place.
> food and rent being much lower than most of the world, it kinda balances out. Do you mean most of the west? If so, yeah restaurants especially fast food is somewhat cheaper. Probably to do with the wages too.
as for rent, that depends much more on where in the country you live. NY isn't cheap.
Adrian Jones
Because it's the fastest ARM chip on the market vs a throttlebook in a test that favors ARM.
Dominic Rodriguez
>"Stop making fun of our fruitphone pls ;_;"
It's not, geekbench is not a reliable benchmark for anything. It's just like passmark.
It's not. An 5 watt x86 2-core Core-M7 at 2 GHz would outperform it in both specint multi and single-core performance.
What apple will most likely do is max out a single core to 4 GHz for a few seconds to give the impression of fast performance for things like app launching and then throttle all 4 cores back to 0.8 GHz for sustained performance.
Grayson Adams
are you really this stupid?
Ryder Howard
What? He's just pointing out how fucking stupid macfags are. Hell even apple knows how stupid they are, that's why the emoji macbook "pro" is a thing.
Michael Campbell
if you seriously think macOS users don't have root access you might as well just remove your genes from the pool right now for the benefit of the rest of us
Gavin Rogers
>user literally said "Apple users are too stupid to have root privileges on a laptop." Are you a mac user?
Blake Brooks
do you know how to read?
Kevin Campbell
Doesn't matter, it's in a phone, so it has to throttle for thermal and power reasons.
Andrew Jones
What even the point, have chink 625 and it's plenty fast.
It's not desktop where you can run proper games and actually see differences in speeds.
