Serbia is a country with about $5,000 USD per capita. This is considerably less than countries like Equatorial Guinea, an African country with an average IQ in the 70s. This is less than Botswana. This is less than Mexico, Brazil, and Colombia. This is less than Namibia, Peru, and Thailand. This is less than Libya, the Dominican Republic, and Jordan.
Do we think of them as developed? As first world? Why? Botswana is a more developed and richer country than Serbia. Do we think this just because they're geographically in Europe? Can we stop fooling ourselves by acting like countries like this are first world? I mean this in the modern colloquial sense, not the Cold War sense.
That's a rural cottage on a rural farm in a rural village you fucking idiot. You can find the exact same thing everywhere.
Blake Martinez
As a Turk, you on average have almost twice the money as the average Serbian. Do we think of you as first world? As developed? Successful?
Evan Howard
Ignore the picture if you want, it doesn't matter, everything I've said is true
Xavier Stewart
Do you still wish they were part of the old empire, Mehmet?
David Butler
Serbs them right
Samuel Baker
shut up you
our food and women are way better then what you have over there
also belgrade is very comfy
and if it wasn't for a SERB you wouldn't be baiting me right know
Leo James
Oh look, another anti Serbian thread. Serbs are friendly people who aren't money crazy and shallow like westerners.
Literally Carlos!
Camden Russell
Serbia looks pretty good desu. Would probably visit before 2018 just in case.
Alexander Morris
Fuck you kid, Serbia a good
Zachary Allen
>who aren't money crazy
Well I'd hope not given they have less of it than many African nations, how awful that would be
Juan Peterson
maybe (´・ω・`)
Liam Morris
Hey! Even you have more money than the average Serbian.
So do you!
Serbians must think we're all loaded!
Gabriel Rodriguez
well that because all the Russians and Italians are coming here to not get cucked by the IRS their berry rich
Owen Baker
Another fact about Serbia: their average IQ is 89.
Isn't this an interesting country?
Nolan Perez
Man I'm not even gonna keep hanging shit; Turks are alright.
Daniel Morris
Ah so you're living in an Africa tier shithole too? What's it like? A lot of gray I imagine?
Grayson White
wait a minute are you butthurt from that other thread?
you better fucking not be, you better not be making us look like butthurt faggots. i will fucking show you some butthurt the likes of which will leave you limping for the rest of your goddamn life, kid
Alexander Kelly
not too bad
Levi Barnes
>MFW American user launches second round of bombings against Serbia
Michael Sanchez
Another fact about serbia:
They are CONSIDERABLY militarily weaker than North Korea. If North Korea decided to annex Serbia and Serbia didn't receive any outside help, the war would end within days.
Can anyone share facts about Serbia? What do they produce? What do they contribute? Genuinely curious.
Matthew Clark
>What do they produce? What do they contribute? Turbofolk. I mean Vladivostok FM tier garbage: youtube.com/watch?v=NcLfqHo8gew
Cameron Butler
Why not just go there, like any other shithole of the world, it would probably cost pennies to get there.
Luis Morgan
More facts about Serbia:
Their HDI is on the same level as turkey, Brazil, Venezuela, Mexico, Cuba, and Lebanon. Their HDI is lower than Mauritius, Trinidad and Tobago, and Panama.
Parker Phillips
Some of the countries you've mentioned are based solely on gdp per capita...which doesn't really show "wealth" looking at the discrepancy between the rich and the poor. Almost none of them are "significantly more developed" than serbia (maybe just thailand)
Also,no1 is saying serbia's first world...the same way no1 is saying that romania's first world even though we have 4k gdp/capita more than serbia...we're both 2nd world countries
>They are CONSIDERABLY militarily weaker than North Korea. That is debatable. Do they have less equipment ? Yes..but then again north korea has a significantly shittier economy...meaning their equipment has little no maintenance and they lack the required fuel to use them all . You also need to remember than north korea has a war time economy which focuses on the military first rather than anything else
>As a Turk, you on average have almost twice the money as the average Serbian That's false . The average wage in turkey is 524 € , the average wage in serbia is 402 €
Blake Garcia
that's gypsies, they live like this everywhere
Nathaniel Gray
More facts about Serbia: even at its most powerful, we didn't even need to put boots on the ground to make you suck our dicks.
Ryan Bell
>which doesn't really show "wealth" looking at the discrepancy between the rich and the poor. Americans will never understand what adjusted HDI means, and it's an obvious bait thread that should be on Sup Forums,
Carson Lopez
None of it is false. North Korea is more militarily formidable and turkey's GDP per capita is also undeniably twice as high as Serbias. Serbia also has a horrible Gini coefficient, meaning that poverty isn't even equally distributed.
Another fun fact: as a Romanian, you have considerably more money than the average Serb. Spend it wisely!
Kayden Long
Those foreskin posts really got to you, didn't they, cutboy?
Thomas Sanchez
Because this man is a first world country all by himself
Josiah Gonzalez
This is a blatant lie.
Nicholas Martinez
Another fact about Serbia: their national GDP is on the same level as our state with the lowest GDP - Vermont. Vermont has 600,000 people. Serbia has 7 million.
What causes this lack of productivity? Does anybody here study Serbia?
John Long
North Korea has 23x the active military personnel as Serbia. It wouldn't even be a fight. Serbia has 52,000 active personnel, the size of a small city.
Juan Lee
Jesus Christ, is there anywhere on earth that's better than fucking Serbia?
Kayden Martin
Another fact about Serbia: they are the 90th most economically free country in the world, out of 178 measured. They are less economically free than Morocco.
Ryan Sanders
Alelsander kolarov.
Serbians are toughest Slavs tbqh
Brandon Campbell
Im visiting in a week ill report back on whether it rly is a shithole
Austin Martin
Well yes, you'd have to be tough living in a country with a quality of life similar to or worse than many African nations. You know who are a bunch of fucking sissies? Danes. You know what country is undeniably good to live in? Denmark.
Benjamin Walker
Don't forget your body armor, and don't step on any bombs! And lots of money, one euro is equal to 124 Serbian dinars!!! You can buy a LOT with a very paltry amount of money. Enjoy your time! Don't look the locals in the eyes.
Aaron Gomez
Be careful France, they're poor as fuck and I hear they don't ever bathe
but then again neither do the French lolol kek
Camden Ross
The difference here is that the French have the option of bathing, they just choose not to. Serbians must use their water sparingly, showering is excess.
Isaac Ward
Go to hell
Luke Powell
I don't think it's as bad as you're making it out to be
Luke Gonzalez
I don't mean to offend, I'm just informing people of facts about your country, Serb diaspora. You should be proud of your heritage!
These are undeniable statistics.
Zachary Price
fun fact: servia lost every war
Christopher Cox
what's your adgenda? are you some other type of diaspora?
Julian Clark
No, this is Sup Forums and I'm just wanting to discuss why we see some nations as "first world" or "developed" and others as not. It's often very arbitrary. Just discussing an international topic!
Justin Roberts
you're being mean
Andrew Peterson
Enjoy the plum brandy. It's probably best if you're not sober during your stay.
Ethan Taylor
Serbs are good lads.
Easton Ward
I'm not being mean, I'm not intending to offend, I just want to educate people about the nation of Serbia. Serbs have a long history! Back into antiquity! And now they can't afford to shower, sadly, but so she goes.
Ethan Cook
You're being a cunt mate.
Jaxon Sanchez
>remove kebab
Hudson Ortiz
I love you lads too. No need to rake shit up, however.
Jaxson Davis
How? These are just facts about Serbia.
Benjamin Powell
You're a weekender. You have no idea how Sup Forums works. We're all chill here.
William Nguyen
Fact : God is a Serbian.
Angel Perez
We regularly have threads advocating for the genocide of gays and Muslims and my thread about Serbian facts isn't chill?
I'm sorry you don't like the Serbian reality but sadly it isn't dependent on your opinion of it.
Carter Foster
Because of this thread i may move to serbia because it is cheap, presumably. Any good cs jobs, serbros?
Owen Green
Where do you plan on staying? My general advice is Novi Sad > Belgrade because it's smaller and comfier, or perhaps Niš where you can find lots of historical monuments, or one of the mountains like Kopaonik or Zlatibor, they are relaxing as well.
Lad, if you lived at least a week in the life of an agricultural peasant, you'd die of exhaustion, even if you aren't fat. People study, I am studying STEM at an internationally acknowledged university and after i finish I will be able to work anywhere in the EU, without having to do a 'difference' exam, if i know the language. I'm also studying for free, which isn't a common thing in the US is it?
Yes, jobs don't yield too much money around here, but people have workarounds. They own small family gardens, are apiarists, own livestock, turn their hobby into money etc.
Christopher Morgan
OP, just what diaspora do you happen to be?
Andrew Kelly
Ultimate Dubs have spoketh the truth.
Sebastian Foster
My education is completely free. I'm about to have two STEM degrees which I actually made money making.
>Yes, jobs don't yield too much money around here, but people have workarounds. They own small family gardens, are apiarists, own livestock, turn their hobby into money etc.
Ah! Good, maybe then you can be as rich as the Gabonese if you have that industrial spirit.
Nathaniel Ward
>more likely to have AIDS than in Serbia >same infant mortality as Serbia >murder almost three times as frequent >5 times more likely to die in prison >health care 15 times costlier, whilst salaries are only 5 times higher >not even mentioned: cost of obligatory college
Since when is the US First World?
Charles Hernandez
I'm American. What ethnicity? Mostly German, they came from lower sax in the 1910s. The rest I believe came from Sweden but I don't know, possibly Norway or Denmark. My surviving old ancestors are German and only know that much about my ancestry.
Austin Fisher
You'd be spending about 10x more on healthcare in any developed country. Germany for example you'd be spending 9x more. The AIDS statistic is because you don't have any black people. I'm not gay or black so I don't need to worry.
Isaiah Collins
>Sweden's got 4,000,000 military manpower wut.jpg more like 100,000
Jack Thomas
NK has more active soldiers than the US and UK put together.
Dylan Gomez
By that sentence I meant the more common jobs for which you don't need a university degree. Obviously a career in CS can net you 3 or 4 times the average pay which is more than enough to support a family of 4 or more. Also no need to be aggressive, we're all friendly here on Sup Forums, this thread seems to be pure hatespeech and cherrypicking.
Ethan Scott
I heard that Crotians in common jobs work around 60h. That is a blow on life quality you cannot even measure with money.
Leo Perry
This is a measurement of able bodied manpower.
You think half of China's population is active duty?
Sure, but unlike Serbia we have competent and well equipped militaries. Serbia as a nation couldn't afford to operate one of our carriers.
Owen Ross
>$5,000 USD per capita
Those rich bastards
John Johnson
According to this, Ethiopia has better health care than Germany because they spend 99% less on it.
Jonathan Miller
This isn't hate speech, I'm simply stating facts about a country. Facts like 4-5 times your average salary couldn't even support you by yourself here and an American McDonald's job probably pays as much as a real career in Serbia, given 1 USD is like 130 dinar.
Camden Rodriguez
I confess I didn't look at it in context, I just wanted to get butthurt over Sweden. I mistaked.
James Edwards
Eh, don't fret. It's only marginally more than Guatemala! They could probably just afford one more loaf of bread per year than you is all.
Mason Butler
You have to go back Carlos!
Mason Jones
You very well know that's an invalid argument since Ethiopia's health care is shit, while Germany's healthcare is better than the US one.
Thomas Bell
god kill the white devil, the east will rise again
Jaxon Rivera
Looks impressive until you notice the 25% less money stat and realize it's negated to an extent by much higher living expenses versus the US.
Ethan Bennett
Hey! Compared to the average Serb, you're relatively wealthy, having on average $2000 more. Go Bulgaria!
Brody Price
That's not the argument was using though. He was rating the quality of health care systems strictly on how much money they cost you to use.
Mason Sanders
There's a obvious reason why I'm not using the money I've earned in Serbia to spend it in the US. Essential things are cheaper than in the US, which doesn't include PC parts.
We're not Croatians, but I hardly doubt that's true since both of our countries have a regulated 8 hour workday.
Zachary Evans
>Superpower alliance vs. remnants of a communist nation in civil war We sure showed them
Liam Peterson
>while Germany's healthcare is better than the US one It's probably close to equal considering only a small handful of countries have the money and technology for world-class health care.
Sebastian Taylor
>both of our countries have a regulated 8 hour workday so do most countries, but de facto many citizen are forced to work overtime.
James Green
This thread... Is really making me think...
Tyler Long
If live in Germany dying in infancy is 44% less likely. There you go. Better healthcare in Germany.
Our healthcare SYSTEM is bad, yes, I agree. Our quality of healthcare is arguably the best in the world. We have the best hospitals on the planet, such as the mayo clinic. We produce and attract the best doctors. We just pay way, way too much for it is all. You're much more likely to die in a British hospital for example.
Kayden Adams
It's probably an okay place to visit if you're just a middle class guy who's okay with gypsies running around. It's probably really cheap and the Balkans are nice in summertime.
Noah Flores
Very well, I concede this one.
Eli Morales
Most of the problems you mention can be traced to overregulation by the government. In fact health care is one of the most overregulated things there is.
Levi Lewis
If you exclude niggers and only rate infant mortality among actual humans, then it's probably quite a bit lower.