General: >If your build isn't completely Poverty-tier, consider an SSD. Consider buying a large SSD for the price of an HDD + SSD, and saving 50$ next paycheck to buy an HDD
If you want help: >View this handy guide on picking parts logicalincrements.com/ >Assemble a part list pcpartpicker.com/ >If your part list needs a monitor, be sure to include information like response time, refresh rate, and resolution >State the budget & currency for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >Learn how to build a PC (You can find a lot more detailed videos on channels like Bitwit) youtube.com/watch?v=VhdV2wv3jQs
CPUs: >A8-9600 (APU) - Poverty-tier builds (Don't bother with a dGPU at this point) >R3 1200 - Budget builds (R3 1300x - Good stop gap between the 1200 and Ryzen 5, get a R5 1400 if you need multithreading >R5 1600 - High FPS Gaming & Mixed uses, 1600x if you can't be bothered to overclock >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use, not just for gaming
GPUs: Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices way up, using an old GPU / waiting to build may be a good idea right now. Anything below the RX 560/GTX 1050ti is garbage and not worth even considering >1050 TI - 1080p 60hz at low / medium settings >RX 580 - 1080p 60hz at high / ultra settings, supports Freesync >1060 6GB - 1080p 60hz at high/ ultra settings, supports G-Sync >1070 or Vega 56 - 1080p 144hz at high / ultra settings, or 1440p 60hz at high / ultra settings >1080 TI - 1440p 144hz at high / ultra settings, or 4k 60hz at high / ultra settings
RAM: >Check your Mobo's QVL before buying any RAM, you usually want to buy RAM on your Mobo's QVL. >Ryzen CPUs benefit from high speed RAM, 3200(+) MHz is ideal
Jack Taylor
Why does the addition discuss the troubled doubt?
Christopher Edwards
AMD Athlon II X2 guy, give in and get an i5 2400 refurb desktop for $100-130
Liam Murphy
i think ur pins are bent
Gavin Brooks
>Recommending Vega shitty op, op. remake it.
Nathaniel Collins
when will retarded OP's shilling their garbage stop
John Martin
Guys I'm getting Ryzen and the works but my question is on the Ram. I want to play games and stream/record them so do I need 32gb or should I just stick with 16gb? DDR4 3200 of course.
Leo Jackson
depends on the game, very rare for a game to need 16 streaming/recording software are negligible if you're not using specific options that use RAM (like a delay or a replay buffer)
Brandon Howard
Thanks, 16 it is then
Andrew Cooper
I have a potential bottleneck problem.
I only have a i3 3220 cpu. What is the best 4gb card with minimal bottlenecking I can get. >poverty build It's just a build for fun, i-i swear
Colton Campbell
1050Ti
Austin Foster
Lads, I have a serious problem. Booted my computer on today, sounded a little quieter than usual but I only noticed that when I was playing the division. I was experiencing fps drops and decided to investigate. Temp was higher than normal, and so I opened my case up. Turns out the bottom front fan AMD my cpu cooler fans are not spinning and the debug led trail lights to sys fan 3 slot are lit up. My mobo is a MSI Z270A Pro. Is the mobo faulty? If so, this is fucking ridiculous because I only built this computer mere weeks ago. Also, last night I was tinkering with the gpu oc settings. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it, but just making sure to provide as much info as possible. Any help is really appreciated.
Jack Taylor
I hope you misstyped some parts of your post nigga
William Hill
>AMD did you mean 'and'?
Jonathan Collins
Phoneposting as I turned my PC off. Yes, I meant and, but in all caps so I really meant AND. Anyway, any tips?
Hunter Adams
Good, thought you were using an AMD processor Anyways it sounds like a power/voltage issue lad. What is the wattage of your PSU?
Ryder Baker
Use speedfan to test your fans. Otherwise it is busted.
Matthew Sullivan
650w, my good man. The thing is, it worked before this so why today all of a sudden did it fail?
Evan Parker
probably whatever you did last night How much did you OC it? Did you increase maximum voltage?
Jaxon Martin
Could anyone calculate the depreciation for the following 3 1/2 year old used hardware? I just bought it and want to know if I got ripped off:
>Corsair H100i CPU Cooler >ASRock X79 Motherboard >Intel i73820 >Samsung 840 Pro 128gb SSD >Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB DDR3 RAM
Isaac Reed
Yes, BUT I reverted all the changes back to stock before turning the PC off for the night. Was it too late?
Gabriel Jenkins
Where do you live?
Mason Taylor
New Zealand
Josiah Torres
Did you buy those parts from a popular retailer? If not, check on pcpartpicker.com and just follow the prices of the most recurring retailer. Then you'll see.
John Hall
Does it matter which variant?
Elijah Torres
Any cuties need help? I am Sup Forums tech certified
Jonathan Turner
>that pic
Horror.
Jaxon Morris
How do I keep my parts safe from static electricity when building?
Oliver Reed
Live in a rubber house
Jose White
>Aye poo you >no G4560 Has AMD paid all of Sup Forums's student loans in return for shilling?
Caleb Bell
you have to give kisses to me
Asher Cox
PCBG is full of AMD Shills
Andrew Mitchell
I never had any problems and I've built stuff on carpet.
Carter Bennett
Can anyone help me?
Austin Diaz
That cpu is nonexistent and if it exists somewhere it costs way more than it should.
Michael Cruz
>want a case that looks nice, but doesn't have the gamer look How do you even pull this off anymore? Use an old case?
Connor Murphy
Fractal Design.
Elijah Morgan
nxzt s340?
Lincoln Rivera
>no gaymur case Loser
Nathaniel Baker
evga? h440?
Jace Scott
buy literally anything made by corsair or fractal. moron.
Austin Martinez
Not EVGA, Corsair. I'm stupid.
Elijah Lee
>buy literally anything made by corsair or fractal. moron.
Adrian Hill
GAYMUR CASES ALL THE WAY
Sebastian Gray
Yes, yes you are.
Jeremiah Adams
No, it was just some guy on gumtree.
They're not brand new, they're 3 1/2 years used
How much should I have paid in USD or whatever for those parts at 3 1/2 years used?
Lucas Cruz
>tfw cases have almost completely phased out optical drives >tfw you're slowly getting older, but everyone else is staying the same age
Henry Miller
>gumtree ello m8. did u use your bogan accent?
I bet you didnt
Thomas Gonzalez
Gaymur cases aren't the only things they have. Then there's Air 540 which could fall into both camps.
Owen Morgan
I was going to help you but dumb frogposters don't deserve to be interacted with.
Anthony Scott
Does anyone have a good guide for wiring and plugs as they relate to the motherboard and power supply? I seem to have wired the GFX Card correctly since it's lighting up but my computer does not turn on when I press the Power button.
Aiden Garcia
Are the front panel cables done correctly? Those are bitch to deal with no matter how many builds you've done.
Adrian Thompson
I have no idea. I'm using an ASUS Prime A320M-K as my motherboard and the instructions are incredibly vague on the System Panel Connector. It doesn't specify any order that the chassis plugs should be put in.
Ryder Clark
Only 2 pins go from PSU to mobo. The 24 pin one. You know which one cause it is the biggest one. And the 4 pin one.
Dylan Walker
What's with MSI's repetitive GPU cooler designs
Nicholas Barnes
it just werks
Zachary Roberts
No need to reinvent the wheel.
Cameron Walker
Please, can someone tell me how to fix this
Brayden Johnson
I just bought a prebuilt. Wish me luck, /pcbg/.
Evan Torres
I did a bunch of number crunching today to determine the best price/performance GPU on the market and the result I got was the plain old GTX 970 that can be bought second-hand for about $185 on average right now. The runner up was the GTX 1060 3gb.
Worst choice was the GTX Titan X followed closely by the GTX 1080 ti. The GTX 980 ti was nearly twice as the price/performance of the 1080 ti, so I suppose that makes it the winner of the "super" GPU category.
I would post my data but I don't really feel like it because I don't want to actually change the market in any way.
Leo Ramirez
That shit ain't gonna get you acceptable frame rates.
Adrian Richardson
btw I mostly investigated Nvidia GPUs because preliminary research on AMD stuff showed it is all ridiculously inflated right now, even old stuff like HD 7970's have terrible price/performance compared to the best few Nvidia GPU on the used market. I did weight towards cards which can still play modern games at 1080p 30fps with default graphics settings. I suppose there are probably some cards that are 3 or 4 generations old that can be bought for like $20 on occasion that are probably the supreme deals, but I don't really care about those.
Evan Myers
>Worst choice was the GTX Titan X followed closely by the GTX 1080 ti >GTX 1080 ti
did i screw up buying this
Gavin Myers
I was going for what is truly "good enough" without succumbing to meme settings like excessive shadow quality or high multiples of anti-aliasing.
For about 90% of games out there right now you will be able to hit 60 fps at 1080p with better than default settings with the 970. Often quite a bit better than default. For the few that you don't reach 60 fps in that is due to poor optimization on the developer's part and going up to a 980 or even a 980 ti in some cases still won't change things because it's not a processing issue.
GTX 970 is a "boring" choice I know, but the numbers didn't lie.
Carter Perry
Only if you were going for best price/performance. Which is not what that card is about. That card is about supreme performance at any cost. If the money is no issue to you then you made the right choice.
Chase Jenkins
It's the best 1440p 144hz card out there and at that level you're not really concerned about the value like mid range builder is.
Samuel Allen
I'm using a 840 Pro 256GB as my boot drive, board supports NVMe. Do I buy a 960 Evo 250GB? it boots fast enough and i want to buy into the nvme meme but i dont want to drop all that money AND lose a sata port.
Also a G4560 and a 1050Ti should be decent for 720/1080p gaming, right? If so I'll be buying a 1050Ti asap.
Chase Perez
upon further inspection, i didn't. I can't change the core voltage setting on the MSI Afterburner program, but i did change the power limit to max. would that do something to the mobo?
Gavin Brooks
also after playing csgo on lowest settings and still lagging, i decided to buy a gpu; also need to buy a cheap gaming mouse and a cheap headset. thinking corsair sabre/harpoon and the g430, are these any good?
Mason Nguyen
Does anyone know of any single-threaded TR 1950x vs i9 7900x benchmarks? Looking to get one of them for Houdini. In the multithreaded benches it is about 20% better, but there are a lot of single-thread operations
Oliver Morales
You buy the 1080ti if you have money to spend. Perf/Value is for people on budgets.
Jordan Gomez
I think GamersNexus had some.
Lincoln Adams
I'm not sure if this belongs here, but how bad are H-series boards for overclocking? I have an H-series board (GA-H97M-D3H) and just got my hands on a good i7-4790K that can handle 4.8 GHz at 1.26 v. Is it likely I'd be able to handle that on an H-series board or would I need a new motherboard, too?
Elijah Reyes
10% each year Hey brother Create a list on pc part picker, then divide by 0.6 to get the NZD price. Then multiply by 0.9^(years)
Ryder Hill
Great, just had a look at those thanks man! Now I'm even more unsure of which to get.
Benjamin Jenkins
its beautiful
Brayden Cooper
If you are buying a 1050ti you do not have near the budget for NVMe.
Christopher Ortiz
Updating this. I found out where they go on the motherboard but the sons of bitches aren't color-coded and the print is so small it's difficult to make out what goes where.
Nicholas Richardson
H boards don't overclock. Intel boards either can overclock or don't overclock.
Nicholas Rogers
>even overclocked my 1080ti doesn't consume enough power to heat my room effectively
It's a complicated feel.
John Fisher
Only poor people care about price to performance ratios.
Lucas Morales
The only way you'll feel a reasonable difference is with an absurd amount of cards.
Colton Price
Should've bought heatdozer.
Alexander Parker
Did you buy a 7700k? If not, that's your problem.
Nolan Allen
I used to heat my room with a 4870x2 running at 95c
Colton Barnes
If your CPU is running at toaster temps for long durations, you are doing something really wrong and should have bought a workstation CPU instead.
Zachary Edwards
Umm, the temperature a component runs at has no bearing on the amount of heat energy it dissipates into the room, sweetie.
William Wood
Here is where I stand with my build:
When I turn on the power supply, I see the motherboard light up just underneath my graphics card. However, nothing happens when I hit the Power button. No fans spinning, nothing. I have taken a look at the Power Switch system panel connector and I am almost certain it is in the right place.
What's the issue?
Evan Ortiz
I-I know! I was only pretending to be retarded! Hah, I sure got you!
Adam Cox
>I am almost certain it is in the right place Needs to be one hundo percent sure. Check again. Also, check if you connected them to the right place. I'm not sure about other motherboards, but mine had 2 9 pin places, and I hooked all my power switches to the wrong one.
Also, check if your 4/8 pin and your 24 pin motherboard power connectors are connected
Dominic Long
Got a free computer, mobo has pcie 3.0 x16 slot and I want to add a 1060 there. Currently has i3-2120, will that be fine or bottleneck it? If the i3 won't work Ihave been eyeballing i5-3770k
Bentley Phillips
read the op also probably
Adrian Thomas
Try bridging the power connectors and turn it on without using the power switch.
Gabriel Wood
bottle neck i3
if you can OC the 3770k then i think it could be a good match
Blake Taylor
The problem I'm having is that the motherboard isn't color-coded for where the system panel connectors should go and the print is so small and cryptic that I can't make it out.
For what it's worth, I have the power switch on the top right, the reset switch on the bottom right, the Hard Drive LED on the bottom left, and the power LEDs on the top left
Landon Gutierrez
Something is making short circuits or something is dead.
Levi Gomez
Thanks, this poverty rig is my first """""build""""" btw, figured may as well buy an ok card so there is a half chance of using it in something else down the road
Isaac Scott
Guys, whats the best 2 or 3, 4k monitors to choose from? Or ill just take the best one
Meshify c.
Parker Rodriguez
What is your budget? Do you want IPS? I assume you want 60hz because there isn't much of a choice. How about Gsync/freesync?