GloFo 12nm Process

globalfoundries.com/news-events/press-releases/globalfoundries-introduces-new-12nm-finfet-technology-for-high-performance-applications

>no new zen products on 12nm until 2018

what the fug

mite have been worth waiting for if they at least got it out before the end of the year but Zen2 is still in the product roadmap for 2018?

who will even buy this

The 12nm process is just an iterative update of 14nm LPP that brings a moderate area reduction and higher clocks. Its for refreshed parts, and automotive. Likely their semi-custom parts will utilize it.

Everyone knew that there would be nothing but a gap filler in early 2018.

2017 is almost over, why wouldnt you expect the products to be released in 2018?

>by Q4 2017
learn2read jewtel shill

So basically, wait for ZEN3?

>"We plan to introduce new client and graphics products based on GF’s 12nm process technology in 2018 as a part of our focus on accelerating our product and technology momentum.”

back to skool brainlet

Zen 2 was never planned for 2017 you pathetic shill
>“We are pleased to extend our longstanding relationship with GLOBALFOUNDRIES as a lead customer for their new 12LP technology,” said Mark Papermaster, CTO and senior vice president of technology and engineering, AMD. “Our deep collaboration with GF has helped AMD bring a set of leadership high-performance products to market in 2017 using 14nm FinFET technology. We plan to introduce new client and graphics products based on GF’s 12nm process technology in 2018 as a part of our focus on accelerating our product and technology momentum.”
This matches AMD's current roadmap that has been out for the better part of the year.
Saged

Zen 3 is going to be a dud.. amd cant into single core speeds like intel

go away intel marketer

> until 2018
> what the fug
Wut. Literally next year.
> who will even buy this
Looking for deprecated 32/64 2xsocket Naples on Ali.

Nobody buys intel anymore because of their stuttery cores.

You know the only reason Zen can't clock so high right now is it's limited by the 14nm LPP it's on, right?

...

maybe this time they'll single turbo to 4.3ghz instead of 4.1

That would lower the single core gap between Intel and AMD by ~6% which is pretty substantial given how small the gap is already.

>small gap
>over 30%
>meanwhile Icelake is another 15% IPC

...

Oh like that Skylake 20% higher IPC than Haswell rumor?

Target for the 14nm process was 3 GHz.

Target for the 7nm process is 5 GHz. We'll have to wait and see how it's going to turn out, but if it's any close to that, Intel is fucked.

So 12nm 1H 2018 and 7nm 2H 2018/ 1H 2019? Doesn't sound too bad. I panicked a bit at first.

>15% IPC

>who will even buy this
Reminder that some new Excavator APUs just released. A few months after Zen came out and a few months before Raven Ridge

too bad that icelake is only coming in 2019 or 2020 since cannonlake was delayed to late 2018

But where the fuck is Raven Ridge? Literally the only thing I care about in AMD lineup.

>12nm LP
so... leading performance? we'll see how this will turn out, hopefully 4.5Ghz on all 8 cores will be possible. a man can only dream...

>15%
I'd be suprised if it was more than 5

>30%
It's more like 20% in real world workloads.
>Icelake 15% IPC
Icelake won't give you shit in terms of IPC, just more clockspeed.

Isn't kabby lake pretty much pushing the limit of ipc in x86?

>this desperation

TY BASED BRAZILIAN !!

Skylark is actually.

Kaby is making skylark use less power, then pissing those power savings away with factory OC.

AMD always doea at least one refresh before updating a uarch, why would anyone be surprised?

gotcha my bad. So what's the plan for performance gains moving forward? moar gagahurtz and coars? updates to x86?

20% if you're comparing a stock vs overclock 7700k

OC vs OC with 3200mhz RAM and the ryzen system is within 5% in singlethreading

And absolutely destroys intel in multithreading, by like 50%

There's no need for everyone to argue semantics so much when it comes to 12lp and zen1/2. Zen2 is just the core so ryzen2xxx could be normal zen2 cores with updated unforeseen only, which seems to be the raven ridge route. There's improvements to be made with the slow memory controller, slow cross bar and rumoured power gating with all the i/o lanes for some examples. Zen2 would then come on 7nm with 12cores per die and all the improvements to both ipc and what's needed for more core coherence in a ccx.

Software needs to become multithreaded, we've hit the single core limit on silicon. We could always up the niggahurtz but we're at the point of diminishing returns. We haven't yet hit a core limit tho, so as stated moar coarz friendly software with the megacoarz hardware to back it up.

Icelakes feature set already leaked, there were no mentions of IPC. Instead it's VR acceleration and AI acceleration.

And 10nm clocks lower than 14nm right now on their roadmaps.

>Oh like that Skylake 20% higher IPC than Haswell rumor?
That one was great indeed. Afterwards the fanboys pretended nobody said that ever, so hard.

Nobody buys this stutter meme
If you think AMD doesn't stutter go have fun on console cuck Jaguar 8 cores
Post frame times and minimum frame rate comparisons or gtfo

zen 2 is on 7nm dumbass