Radeon Vega

explain why you should buy this
>It's faster
it's 100$ more expensive minimum and they only sell reference models that are hot and loud af

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So that your anus remains at a normal healthy dilation.

You shouldn't. But Vega Nano will be an attractive proposition for Micro-ITX builders.

You shouldn't (well at least now).

Vega are for AMD fanboys, the 1080 AIB is better.

strange ass marketing really
>see this card goy
>it's nice
>now go buy (((nvidia)))

There's nothing wrong with buying nVidia.
They care about gamers.

...

They are the only company that truly cares about gamers.

$100 isn't a big differentiator for me personally. I have nvidia cards and vegas. It's good to diversify and support various companies who approach problems different. If you're a brainlet gaymen or poorfag who only cares about FPS, then go w/ benchmark performance to value. The market functions on different reasoning ... Aesthetics, feels, compute performance, stuff completely unrelated to gaymen.

Also i have no fucking clue what kind of noiseless environments people run in, but the last thing you're going to hear while maxing out your video card gaming w/ headphones on or speakers blasting is a video card fan.

which is why they're so set on pushing G-Sync, when Freesync is better AND cheaper

G-Sync is better than FreeSync though.
And with it you can use superior nVidia GPUs.
Definetaly worth the price premium.

>G-Sync is better than FreeSync
maybe in 2015, but FreeSync has come farther.

>Freesync is better
N.O.P.E.

>price premium
AMD is making the race here since 2012 they play the cartel game.

Taking fixing stock voltages on 56 into account you should not.
Amd purposefully fucking clocks and voltages for the second time in the row is might fishy though.

assuming Vega ever actually performs as hoped (muh wait for the drivers), I'd really like to get a card designed like fiji pic related.

>it's 100$ more expensive minimum and they only sell reference models that are hot and loud af

Put a water block on it and flash it to the liquid cool bios.

Freesync monitor and want a powerful GPGPU without having to get fork the big $$$$ to get a Frontier/Titan/Telsa.

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>GPGPU
No CUDA.

G-Sync 1.0 isn't better. It produces the same results with more unnecessary hardware involved (only drives up cost to no real benefit to the end user).

To be fair, G-Sync 1.0 was developed before Displayport 1.4 spec was finalized. Nvidia doesn't want to give up sweet G-Sync 1.0 ecology until it is necessary. They just have to release a quick "driver update" to unlock "G-Sync for mobile GPUs a.k.a Nvidia's version of Freesync to their discrete stuff.

They did the same shit with their version of SLI by making it exclusive to their chipsets before they gave up their chipset division. Because, they couldn't compete with Intel chipsets and Core 2 was taking the gaming market by storm.

freesync
you need a space heater
you enjoy unimplemented features and shoddy drivers

thats it

CUDA is becoming the next "GLiDE". It already served its purpose. Nvidia doesn't need to rely on depreciated proprietary APIs to maintain their hold on GPGPU market

In fact, it does need to rely on vendorlocking to maintain its GPGPU share. Because AMD exists you know.

Drivers are hardly shoddy. They work as well as current Nvidia drivers. Both parties are plagued by stupid, stupid issues.

It is a far cry from the early days of graphical cards. Where you had official drivers from every major vendor causing BSOD like clockwork or completely broken hardware (S3 Savage)

The Vega64 msrp is $499 and it beats the 1070 which runs $450+. It's not the worst pricing but it's not as good as it could be. Ideal would be $350-400.

vega isnt 290x refrence moron

> implying msrp matters

It doesn't, not even a little.

The actual price and availability in local stores is what matters. ...which means.. Vega64 doesn't matter since Vega54 - priced higher than $499 - is the only alternative.

wow amd is really Sup Forums's nintendo
the amount of mental gymnastics itt to defend this shit company is staggering

1. you shouldn't buy reference ever
2. you should buy only at ~5% more MSRP at worst

v56 costs only 4% more than 1070 here, i'm still not buying it because reference

good goyim

G-Sync may be better than Freesync but it's not worth $200 better.

No problems here. What's the big deal?

You should buy vega 56. Change around some sliders and its better than 1080 aib

Cheaper than nvidia if we add the cost of jewsync

waiting for 12nm version

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it's improved 14nm, the 12LP is just a marketing name. It will probably not be used by AMD until mid/late 2018 (risk production starts in Q1 2018, but it's very similar to the 14LPP process, so there shouldn't be many problems).

Can' wait to see if the chips really have 10% more performance.

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>mid-late 2018
That's a timeframe for 7LP.
They'll ramp 12LP early 2018.

It definitely doesn't worth 200 fucking dollars.

It's very well worth the price premium considering you can you superior NVIDIA GPUs with it.

custom loop

why would this comparison mean anything to the people here? can you explain? :^)

The main reason to buy Gsync isn't even Gsync, it's ULMB.

AMD's reference cards are shit, look at the 64 air which throttles itself to death. Wait for aftermarket coolers.

reference VRMs are solid as fuck on these
blowers are always shit
no reason to call these particular reference cards shit

It only thorttles itself because the stock fan profile was built for a RX 480/580. You just crank up the fan speed and the RX 64 happily goes around 1.6Ghz without a hitch. It is just bloody loud though like Air-cooled 1080Ti.

Modern GPUs dynamically adjust their speeds base on load and temperatures. Nvidia does the same thing with post-Fermi silicon. AMD has been doing since GCN 1.0.

Stock AVFS checks are weird. DPM6 is always overvolted.

So once AIB cards come out will that mean that reference cards will drop in price? I'd like to throw a water block on a 64 in a year or so to offest the costs

The only reason to buy a reference card is to watercool it as soon as the waterblocks are out

Vega32 and Vega28 passed gook certification.

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gaymers btfo
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Shut up seronx

>seronx
Who?

>there people who thinks there is a difference between gsync and freesync
Both are fucking doing the same thing dumb cunts

rx 580 + freesync