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Before asking for help, please check our list of resources.

If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine.
1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything.
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or macOS.
3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

Resources:
Your friendly neighborhood search engine.

$ man %command%
$ info %command%
$ help %command%
$ %command% -h
$ %command% --help

Don't know what to look for?
$ apropos %something%

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
wiki.archlinux.org
wiki.gentoo.org

Sup Forums's Wiki on GNU/Linux:
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux

>What distro should I choose?
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>What are some cool programs?
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

>What are some cool terminal commands?
commandlinefu.com/
bropages.org/

>Where can I learn the command line?
mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
grymoire.com/Unix/

>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html

>How to break out of the botnet?
prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: /fglt/'s website and copypasta collection:
fglt.nl && p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy

Other urls found in this thread:

help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/71czls/psa_todays_firefox_nightly_fixes_the_font_issue/
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/font_configuration#Fontconfig_configuration
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

How long a beard do Alpine users have?

When you come to Sup Forums for the friendly gnu/linux thread, and it's freshie fresh.

Psych ward head shave for using a router distro.

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Slackware or gentoo? No memes please

I'm ready to dual boot Xubuntu 16.40 with Windows 10. Before doing that I'd like to have some clarifications (warning: they might sound very stupid!) :
1) can Windows 10 and Xubuntu have worse performance when one more OS is installed on the same computer?
2) in the first part of the installation, the system asks whether you want to install Xubuntu along with Windows or "do something else"; most people recommend to click on this second option so you can establish the partitions for your Xubuntu installation, but I'm afraid to fuck something up, so would it be the same if I clicked on the first option? Obviously I don't want to delete any content from Windows because I have important stuff there.

Be honest. How many GNU/Linux users would use Windows instead if it were free?

It's stupid easy to pirate so I don't see this being a real concern.

Depends on the purpose, what do you need it for?

There are some reasons why I'd still use GNU over Windows:
1) much better customization makes it look much more beautiful
2) it lets you browse porn more freely

None I guess. Once you get the taste of hacking every corner of your system, Windows feels like a jail, even if it would be free.

Publishers often refer to copying they don't approve of as “piracy.” In this way, they imply that it is ethically equivalent to attacking ships on the high seas, kidnapping and murdering the people on them. Based on such propaganda, they have procured laws in most of the world to forbid copying in most (or sometimes all) circumstances. (They are still pressuring to make these prohibitions more complete.)

If you don't believe that copying not approved by the publisher is just like kidnapping and murder, you might prefer not to use the word “piracy” to describe it. Neutral terms such as “unauthorized copying” (or “prohibited copying” for the situation where it is illegal) are available for use instead. Some of us might even prefer to use a positive term such as “sharing information with your neighbor.”

A US judge, presiding over a trial for copyright infringement, recognized that “piracy” and “theft” are smear words .

I want to:
>play around with unpopular programming languages
>do light web-browsing
>further my knowledge of and experience with linux
>not get hacked
>on underpowered hardware

define "underpowered hardware"

I've been using Mint for some time. I like it, but I'm getting pissed at shit like synaptic not working properly, and I'm considering to switch back to Ubuntu.

Questions:
1. Anons who use [X/K/etc.]Ubuntu: do you need/want to remove lots of crap when you install the system?
2. Is it worth waiting until 17.10 is released, or is the beta stable enough?
3. Are they still bundling adware with the system?

2015 Chromebook-tier (I'm not going to get a Chromebook, but something with similar specs)

I've used both Ubuntu and Xubuntu, then my further replies are only based my limited kbowledge.
>1. Anons who use [X/K/etc.]Ubuntu: do you need/want to remove lots of crap when you install the system?
No. On Ubuntu I simply removed Amazon store, but it wasn't a big issue anyways.

>2. Is it worth waiting until 17.10 is released, or is the beta stable enough?
Why not going for 16.04 LTS? It's the stable released and it's going to be supported for long.

>3. Are they still bundling adware with the system?
No since 16.04 LTS.

If it has a good dual core or More Cores (TM) or you are up to a challenge, go Gentoo (keeping it small and avoiding extra, large shit like qt, webkit etc included is part of the fun)

Otherwise, get a binary distro. Consider Salix too.

Thanks.
On using LTS vs. 17.10: which version of MATE are they using? If possible I'd rather use 1.18 and above to avoid the GTK2 vs. 3 issue.

Thanks user. You can bet I'll be keeping it small, my disk space is going to be limited.

>Salix
Interesting. Haven't seen it before. Thanks for the heads up.

4 u

I never used Mate, I'm sorry.

systemDE when?

>wath is GNOME

When kerneld is finished.

Xubuntu user here:
1 - no
2 - no
3 - no

>3 - no
That's not correct. The amazon botnet is still bundled with Ubuntu, but in newer versions it's now opt-in instead of opt-out.

Not in Xubuntu, that's a vanilla Ubuntu only thing.

How do I change wallpaper on Linux selection screen?

You mean GRUB?

here

1) They will both use up some disk space but that's it. I cannot think of any way for them to affect each other's performance.
2) I'm not familiar with the ubuntu installer, here's the wiki page for it though if you haven't seen it already: help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot

>GRUB
Ok I think I can do it, thanks

Source on that image please?

Easiest way would be: Move picture into /boot/grub/ and run update-grub. But it depends pretty much on your distro. Some distros define it directly in /etc/default/grub, some define it with a shell script.

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Manjaro is pretty good so far. Why would anyone ubunto now?

thanks!

Original

As long as it's just the Amazon botnet and I don't need to uninstall half the system to get rid of it, I'm fine.

I just checked their repositories; the LTS is still using 1.12, while 17.10 is already on 1.18. I'll go withg the later then.

Thanks, you guys.

Thank you. One more question: in a dual-noot environment can I access all the files on Windows once I'm inside Xubuntu?

thanks too

Does Arch really warrant such a long beard? its not that hard

>One more question: in a dual-noot environment can I access all the files on Windows once I'm inside Xubuntu?
It should be possible, will probably require some work though.

Copypasta'ing 10 commands is so hard

Old libreboot version.

My dad wants to try GNU/Linux and has asked me to help him switch. I use Arch and I figured it might be a bit too high maintenance for him, so I'm thinking of another distro to pick for him. My choices right now would be Ubuntu, Debian Stable with backports or OpenSUSE(maybe Tumbleweed? Idk); which one do you think is best? Also I'm not sure if KDE or Xfce would be better for the DE.

No work is required, Xubuntu will access all Windows files, as long as the Windows partition is mounted.

The inverse (Windows accessing Linux files) requires a bit more work though, and I'd advise against it for security reasons.

Fedora is pretty good too

It depends a lot on your father, but for first approach I'd say Kubuntu. But keep him informed there are other choices, so if he happens to prefer another DE or distro, he can inform you.

>Xubuntu will access all Windows files
Oh, that's useful. I remember having to set it up in fstab, but that was years ago.

You really can't go wrong with Xubuntu. I've been using it for months, it never failed me once. I've installed Xubuntu on all the computers at my school and all of my colleagues, even the oldest ones, learnt to use it after only a couple of accesses. It's very intuitive and user-friendly.

> partition is mounted
Can you explain please?

A partition is a "piece" of the hard disk where you can store data. For most part you'd rather have one partition for each hard disk, but since you're dual booting odds are you'll have two (one for Xubuntu's data, another for Windows' data).

However, to be used, a partition needs to be "mounted" first - it's like telling the system "hey, I'm allowing you to read and write data on this partition". For most part the systems do it automatically though and, when they don't, it's just a matter of changing a small file called /etc/fstab.

When choosing Linux distros for people you don't know well, ask these questions:

1) Do you imagine that they need bleeding edge or regularly updated stuff?

2) How much work with setting things up and fixing problems would be required?

*buntus aren't too bad, but Debian Stable might be better.

How to diagnose the problem of a not spinning fan?

Ok thanks

He is not good with computers so I want to install something that I can setup and then forget about. I'm inclined on picking Xubuntu 16.04 but I'm strongly considering Debian as well. OpenSUSE I'm considering it for Yast, but it's more of an afterthought. I like KDE(in fact I use it personally on my machine) but I don't feel it suits well this purpose and I heard the Ubuntu implementation isn't very good either.

First thing I personally would do, is open the machine, and check if there's something obstructing the fan.

GNU/Linux*

First clean the fan and directly connect it to 12v or 5v depending on how much it needs. If it doesn't spin up, it's not a software problem.

It worked on Windows, so I guess I'm missing a driver?

Yeah, the ACPI driver might not handling it. If nothing else works, set it to "always on" in BIOS.

update:
font config isn't as bad after restarting my computer, but it's still pretty terrible. Whatever their reason for not rendering fonts 3 times it's awful

Oh, didn't look in the BIOS, will check what's there, thanks.

Works on my machine. Let me guess, you applied Infinality shit or something similar which you don't even understand but you did it anyway to get placebo improvements other people told you is better.

reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/71czls/psa_todays_firefox_nightly_fixes_the_font_issue/

Why is font rendering in Debian so fucking bad?
Xft.antialias: 1
Xft.autohint: 0
Xft.dpi: 96
Xft.hinting: 0
Xft.hintstyle: hintnone
Xft.lcdfilter: lcddefault
Xft.rgba: rgb doesn't do shit.

I don't give a shit about my freedoms. In fact, I'm using a Hackintosh as my main OS. Windows just happens to be outright shitty OS.

dont care about the price
if it were open source/debotnetted, i would use it since it has more gaymen support

Why disable hinting? Also where are you putting all that and what do you expect it to affect?

works4me
sure your display isnt just garbage?

>tfw this accurately depicts my Ubuntu beard

Supposedly that config should make Debian font rendering look like Ubuntu's. I put all that stuff into ~/.xresources. With this file or lack thereof my fonts look like pretty much like this user's:

Those settings do nothing. Use gsettings.

>use Debian
>am clean-shaven

my beard has been in the pre-ubuntu stage for what seems for months now, the start of fall is a good excuse as any to chop it off.

Gonna do LFS this weekend. Wish me luck.

GNU be with you user.

Yet, people here still can't manage that.

Skype For Linux Preview creates a directory in the home directory and it's not a hidden one. This would bother me a lot if I had to use it.

it has a dark theme though which none of my wincuck friends can find on theirs. Dunno why microsoft decided to do that

How can I make an "incomplete" alias?
I generally know how to make "aliases" but I wonder how I can make an incomplete command as alias where the user has to add something.

For example: alias='cd ~/Documents/userinput'?

I don't wanna scribe a script if possible.

You want to make a shell function, not an alias. Aliases can't take arguments and are literally just substitution.

use $1

>Aliases can't take arguments
Lies

[citation needed]

Bash (which is what basically everyone uses) doesn't allow aliases to take arguments.

alias m=mpv $1
m youtube.com/video/ahhhhhhhhhhhh
Yes it fucking does

Do you mean like that?
alias go='cd ~/Documents/$1

Then I could use this alias in the terminal by writing:
go directoyX

???

yes, what eve you pass after "go" would be the folder you want to do ti in "Documents"

thanks a lot!

Couple things:
You probably have to run "xrdb ~/.Xresources" after making a change.
You might have to restart currently running programs and/or use "sudo fc-cache -fv"
And finally I don't think .Xresources even effects most graphical applications.

What you want is to change your fontconfig settings.
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/font_configuration#Fontconfig_configuration

How do I set up virtualization on linux?
I want to test some other versions of linux from inside linux.

The $1 is empty, the allowed is substituted for the n, you would get exactly the same behavior without it. Brainlet.

You don't need the $1

/fglt/ please tell me about slackware.

Nope
startu() { systemctl --user start $1.service; }

That's not an alias you moron.

Use trisquel, parabola, or deuvian

I tried it before like you said. But when I added this alias:
alias go='cd ~/Documents/'
I logically only changed the directory to Documents. That is not what I want. I am trying it with $1 right now.

Use VirtualBox. Free software, utilizes KVM, works bretty good, GUI based and sets up device redirection (like bridged ethernet) for itself so much less hassle than qemu for example