Not even American (ignore the flag, I'm really a kiwi cuck) but you seriously aren't retarded enough to believe this right?
Americans have: >bigger budget >better equipment right down to their standard issue small arms >better, more comprehensive training >better navy >better air force >can deploy from anywhere almost >more soldiers
What edge exactly does Russia have over the Americans? I can't think of a single one. Kek, Russia's only historical meme advantage over other countries was its winters but even that isn't an issue anymore since Americans can just deploy their soldiers into large cities in like a few hours.
Yeah, that's why they bully Europeans and not America
James Clark
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John Robinson
uhmmm... No, nobody thinks that, everyone know that the US alone could btfo them...
John Watson
Idk, nazis also used to be better equipped but we beat them. Same goes for Napolen.
Brandon Morales
>Americans have: >>bigger budget >>better equipment right down to their standard issue small arms >>better, more comprehensive training >>better navy >>better air force >>can deploy from anywhere almost >>more soldiers so did nazis you can't defeat us murica, let it go
Adrian Allen
Americans has no real war experience. I think that matters. Your budget is cool and all but we beat rich guys since middle ages. Anyways big wars are history in the current year.
Hudson Russell
>Russians beating Napoleon
FUCKING KEK, who told you this? Russia Today? You don't seriously believe the superiority of Russia's military had anything to do with Napoleon retreating right?
Henry Gray
Russian military doctrine encourages the use of tactical nuclear devices in conventional warfare.
Angel Bennett
>Americans can just deploy their soldiers into large cities in like a few hours. when did you sick cunts develop teleportation technology
Adam Gomez
It's called a helipcopter, they've been around for quite a while now
Jordan Baker
they have sexy spies that can even dupe james bond
Tyler Cruz
>Russia could beat America in a conventional war No one thinks like that though
Owen Price
Did Hollywood brainwahs you about his war as well or are you just memeing?
Wyatt Moore
you're gonna fly thousands of helicopters to st. petersburg undetected?
a cunning plan
Jack Diaz
even if Murcia conquers Russia they wont survive Russian depression and vodka
Adrian Mitchell
They've been doing it for a while now
Americans have air superiority over Russia
Austin Anderson
muriccans dunno about the general winter,he is badass
Henry Reed
Anti-air weapons and radar too
Wyatt Howard
kek, stealth bombers and drones
Jace Flores
Who ever invades loses But in a level neutral ground, Russia BTFO
Jayden Scott
like they did in serbia?
Carson Scott
we'd show them how into
Asher Morales
>drones >relevant in anything other than killing civilian goatfuckers
Jonathan Cook
It's called Global Projection...
Hunter Roberts
Except the U.S. wouldn't be fighting a land war in Russia in winter. Any fighting they did do would be defensively in Europe, and even if they did their logistical systems are far more sophisticated and robust than what Napleon or the Nazis had. The Germans actually had real problems with logistics in 1941, like 60% of their supply units were equipped with horse-based transport.
Xavier Jenkins
>Russia could beat America in a conventional war
t. no one since 1991
Logan Campbell
Are troops an equipment that important? i mean, they could just nuke each other to oblivion
Ryan Bennett
t. RT
James Jenkins
Russians are bitter people who live in a de facto dictatorship. It's only natural they would hate America, as it's the only country that's strong enough to challenge their oppressive and undemocratic world view. Obviously, Russia doesn't stand a chance against America. They have poorly engineered tin cans with guns slapped onto theme. They can't afford the highly sophisticated, cutting edge equipment that America uses.
Thomas Ortiz
That will just turn them into Russians
Juan Reed
Poland cannot survive it too and asked for a independence.
Camden Sullivan
>nukes >not having gone the way of Mustard Gas
Nobody will ever use nukes ever again. Not even India or Pakistan. Everyone realises how retarded doing so would be. In a sense, they really are the best deterrence against widespread war. Nobody wants to invade another country that has nukes. It's why America leaves North Korea relatively alone
Landon James
Nukes were made for that. And talking about country who burned their capital city to win.
Grayson Turner
They didn't use them in Afghanistan.
Blake Parker
>And talking about country who burned their capital city to win Wait, did you burn Moscow when Napoleon was approaching?
Hunter Fisher
uhh you both did,1812 in muriccans and that napoleon thing to you
Nolan Brown
>so did nazis >more soldiers HAHAHA
Aiden Miller
Russians don't really hate anything unless the government tells them to hate since they have almost no ability for independence of thought or critical thinking. For example everyone hated Ukraine two years ago and now most of them probably can't even find it on a map.
Noah Peterson
They wouldn't have been tactfully useful since they were fighting farmers.
Against a well organized army they would be very useful against something like a FOB.
Nathan Ward
This thread is pure cringe.
Russia since the 60s has never believe they had conventional parity with the US. Nuclear wise, totally different story. Russia holds total faith in its nuclear arsenal.
This is reflected by doctrine and budget focus.
James Green
That was right after they got done beating up Sweden and annexing you.
Cameron Perez
Stop making these retarded Russia vs. US threads. Russians are our friends now :3
Hunter Allen
Well, not really.
Nathaniel Gutierrez
When the soviets were in afghanistan they were nation building, using tactical nukes against rock farmers wouldve completely alienate their afghan socialist allies, their own people back at home (the war was already extremely unpopular) and it would give the US moral vindication in an ideological war.
Easton Ward
>Russia holds total faith in its nuclear arsenal
Not very valuable when said nuclear arsenal is still at a 1970s technological level.
Chase Stewart
who cares about the technology level. They have a couple thousand ICBMs. If anyone was ever to try and beat them in a war they could destroy the entire world
Hunter Reed
>Nobody will ever use nukes ever again. Not even India or Pakistan. Everyone realises how retarded doing so would be. In a sense, they really are the best deterrence against widespread war
This is utterly shite. This is not a fact. If none would use them, there would be no credibility behind the deterrent.
Juan Ross
When Trump is elected, Russia and America will be best friends >:3
Bentley Garcia
Yours wasn't any better last time I checked
Leo Ward
>Moscow 1812 >capital of Russia
>finno-american education
Nicholas Cox
russians would use them in nuclear tipped torpedoes agains us carrier groups,pakis and pajeets have little tolerance towards each other so pakistani strike to india would quite predictable
Thomas Jones
Anti air weaponry in Turkey and other European countries could destroy those nukes before they even leave Russia. The only thing Russia could destroy is itself.
Caleb Howard
And so does much of the US stock, the US government has allowed it's strategic nuclear force in remain in a dire state.
Isaiah Foster
Most of our investment is in SLBMs rather than ICBMs though.
Justin Bell
No one would use them in a first strike. Everyone would in a second strike. That is literally the whole point.
Blake Richardson
Assuming they even work and the soldiers guarding the missile silos didn't sell the wiring off to buy Krokodil.
Jose Carter
Yeah I know it wasn't the capital back then, but same principle.
Lucas Sullivan
Literally no one except the most brainwash russiaboo believes that and even with them doubt gnaws their souls.
Gabriel Rodriguez
I can say with pretty good certainty that our nuclear arsenal is better maintained and our tech personnel didn't all skedaddle out of the country in the 90s.
Brayden James
Nothing in my post disputs this. Russia by doctrine has never drawn much of a line between conventional and nuclear weaponry.
No it wouldn't.
BMD is extremely difficult to do and provides very bad bang for buck. Current US BMD defences at best, could stop 20-30 missiles at most.
Gabriel Jenkins
>get rekt by vietnamese farmer >get rekt by sandnigger
Michael Jenkins
No it doesn't.
They do.
You believe everyone follows the principles of MAD, this is simply not true.
That is beside the point of what I have said.
Chase James
>Idk, nazis also used to be better equipped but we beat them.
are you fucking retarded? the whole world was fighting the germans, + the foreign aid your people got during that time, + the size of The soviet union, "russians" didnt do shit, even those who stormed berlin were mostly ukrainians, belarussians, and even the guy who hanged the soviet flag over reichstag was a Churka
Aaron Howard
Didn't some kraut land a Cessna in Red Square in the 80s back when they were a superpower with the world's strongest military?
Ryder Lopez
>Russia could beat America in a conventional war
They don't have to they can just release emails and america falls down
Austin Roberts
This was only because you zerg rushed. America's population is 3x Russia's, that strategy wouldn't work
Grayson Nelson
The true winner would be....nobody. Because if we went to war, everybody gets fucking nuked.
To be honest, getting nuked is how I wanna die.
Juan Peterson
>They can easily deploy forces in large cities. I doubt they could easily fo that even in Iran >They will fight defensive war in Europe. When was the last time USA fought defensive war? If anyone ever starts this war it will be the US.
Austin Long
SAMs and fighters didn't get permission to fire because lmao nigga it's a cessna
Camden Smith
Getting nuked is not a good way to die unless you're in the blast zone and are totally unaware you will get nuked. Otherwise you'll die due to either societal collapse or radiation sickness, they're both shit ways to die m8.
Dominic Diaz
>This was only because you zerg rushed Actually, during the opening months of Opertion Barbarossa, it was the Germans who outnumbered Soviet troops, since they didn't have enough time to properly deploy their divisions. Once Germany lost its numerical and equipment advantage and overextended their supply lines, they started getting dicked.
Jackson Roberts
>the whole world was fighting the germans This meme again. They took France like in .. 2 weeks? or 2 days?
Gavin Barnes
Hitler had pretty much the same army in numbers, especially before late 1943. Sovirt generals just learned how to create numeral supremacy in exact moments that were needed. For example Kursk. Germans just failed to keep Citadel in secret so soviets managed to gather a fucking million people, no new super duper tigers and panthers could help in such situation. That's called being outplayed.
Hudson Myers
Some US nukes has to literally use disk flops.... the big ones to work.
Adam Thomas
The thing went totally undetected across hundreds of miles of Soviet territory. It was a pretty grave embarrassment to the Kremlin.
Also KAL 007 ought to be evidence that they had no particular issues with shooting down civvie aircraft.
Anthony Carter
>nuclear exchange will turn the world into Fallout
No it won't, plenty of countries would be perfectly habitable. It wouldn't wipe out humanity unless both sides unleashed fucking everything.
In fact the US planned for that eventuality and I believe the idea was for the government to flee to Australia and rule in exile.
Charles Russell
That's because modern electronics will be just fried during EM blast. We use the same stuff.
Evan Russell
In fact back in 1981, the US Navy conducted a series of training maneuvers in the Arctic Ocean just off the Siberian coast which also went undetected, proving the weakness of Soviet radar capabilities.
Levi Clark
daily reminder
Gabriel Jones
The Netherlands has already defeaten Russia in a war in the past.
Haters gonna hate.
Angel Hernandez
Imagine if it was shot down. Like it happened with korean plane. >Cruel communist regime kills innocent pilot. He was guided all his way, officers and generals just.were afraid to shoot him.
Jose Mitchell
Anything with solid state electronics would get cooked by EMPs though, whether it's from 1976 or 2016.
Connor Miller
It was guided from the very border.
Carson Lopez
Didn't KAL 007 supposedly have CIA agents on it? There's rumors it was not truly a civilian aircraft flight.
Angel Hall
So have SAMs.
Bentley Price
EMPs are a meme.
You would not use a nuclear weapon for such a niche and inconsequential effect.
Kayden Nguyen
t. Cuckold
Jack Rogers
what if soviets kept doing secret operations all over US territory, but none of them were ever exposed?
Jack Morgan
Nah. I study in uni that created soviet nukes. Electronics department exactly. There means of protection. We were.taught hugher maths course by a dude who was working exactly on solving this problem in 60's. Special electronics will just flash during EMP and then start working immidiately after that.
The Netherlands is the most powerful country in the world.
Robert Reyes
>Nobody will ever use nukes ever again.
Isaac Gutierrez
Tinfoil hatters claim that, but then I could just as easily say Iran Air 655 had a load of Hezbollah terrorists on their way to Israel, so w/e. Only the CIA knows and they ain't talking.
Cooper Flores
At the high point of the cold war, the soviet intelligence services had technological superiority for spywear.
Chase Richardson
All of Russia's landbased ICBMs are from 1980 onwards.
Every single one of ours is from before 1985.
Benjamin Watson
MH17 was full of navy seals desu
Blake Carter
You mean it was actually shot down by Canada?
Jayden Kelly
Gonna need a source.
And only 4 million Russians left since 1990. They have enough technical personell lmao.
These ICBMs are not complex.
Elijah Nelson
They didn't by any means. I read how there was this one exchange of US and Soviet spies in the 70s and of course the KGB confiscated all the James Bond gear our guys were carrying before sending them back, and they were disturbed at how much more technically sophisticated it was than their stuff.
Kayden Fisher
These talks about some superiority is bullshit. All these "we were 1 step ahead" would mean nothinf after a fucking month of hypothetical ww3. That war would be just terrible mess, nobody was really interested in it after soviets made their nuke. If not that I guess americans would execute their plan in 1953(0? can't remember exactly) and USSR would be just nuked out of existance.