General: >If your build isn't completely Poverty-tier, consider an SSD. Consider buying a large SSD for the price of an HDD + SSD, and saving 50$ next paycheck to buy an HDD >If your build needs Wifi, you will need a Wireless Network Adapter. General rule of thumb is more than 2 antennas
If you want help: >Remember, we're not here to build a PC for you, we're here to help you >View this handy guide on picking parts logicalincrements.com/ >Assemble a part list pcpartpicker.com/ >If your part list needs a monitor, be sure to include information like response time, refresh rate, and resolution >State the budget & currency for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaymen, Video Editing, VM Work >Learn how to build a PC (You can find a lot more detailed videos on channels like Bitwit) youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g
CPUs: No i5's unless discounted >A8-9600 (APU) - Poverty-tier builds (At this point, if it's for gaymen, you should just buy an Optiplex and put a GPU in) >R3 1200 - Budget builds (~500) >R3 1300x - Gap between 1200 & Ryzen 5, consider a 1400 if you need multithreading >R5 1600 - Best bang for your buck with gaymen & mixed uses, 1600x if you don't like overclocking >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use, not just for gaymen
GPUs: Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up, using an old GPU / waiting to build may be a good idea right now. >1050 TI - 1080p 60hz at low / medium settings (Anything below this, if it's for gaymen, you should just buy an Optiplex and put a better GPU in) >RX 580 - 1080p 60hz at high / ultra settings, supports Freesync >1060 6GB - 1080p 60hz at high/ ultra settings, supports G-Sync >1070 - 1080p 144hz at high / ultra settings, or 1440p 60hz at high / ultra settings >1080 TI - 1440p 144hz at high / ultra settings, or 4k 60hz at high / ultra settings
RAM: >Check your Mobo's QVL before buying RAM >Ryzen CPUs benefit a lot from high speed RAM, 3200(+) MHz is ideal
What's the best options for getting a copy of windows for gaymen and some business stuff (so can't be pirated)?
Caleb Murphy
Kinguin Allkeyshop Ebay
Jonathan King
reddit or ebay
Hunter Fisher
Don't those keys get revoked pretty fast?
Austin Morgan
Is there any real necessity in buying an SSD? Am considering a new 2TB HDD, but might consider an SSD for future workloads. I don't care for OS boot times, since I generally press the button and go grab a coffee in the morning, and by then both SSD and HDD will have loaded by the time I'm back. Don't have an M.2 slot in my mobo, so was going to use a SATA drive for workloads like video/photo editing.
Juan Nelson
>Don't those keys get revoked pretty fast? Well I have been using mine for 1 year and it hasn't been revoked yet.
Luke Cruz
>Sup Forums told me coffee lake wouldn't compare to Ryzen >Ryzen shown to be BTFO in early benchmarks >almost bought a Ryzen CPU >never listening to/g/ advice again
Landon James
If you don't care about loading times from booting a program, a pc etc. then you don't need it.
Dylan Baker
Hi Brian.
Oliver Johnson
But at what price?
Carson Wood
Cheaper than Vega for sure
Angel Bailey
For someone about to buy a Rizon R7 for $350 leafbux, will anything comparable be in that price range?
Samuel Hall
Hey /pcbg/, what's the cheapest AMD gpu I can get away with to run 4k videos???
Jaxon Fisher
Coffee Lake will be more expensive for sure.
Gabriel Taylor
>Talk about CPUs >B-but their GPU is more expensive!
The absolute state of Intel shills.
Charles Perez
So it's fucking nothing then? I don't think I want to up the cost of my build too much.
Oliver Lee
Coffee Lake isn't a response to Ryzen, it's been in the pipeline too long for them to have reorganized this release. Intel won't have Ryzen competitors until Ice Lake. By then Ryzen 2 or 3 will be out and it'll be a competitive blast.
But until then, there won't be much on Intel's side except for competitive pricing, since that's all they can do with the hardware they have.
Henry Ramirez
and single core performance, and launch day compatibility
Brody Rodriguez
To all the Intel VS AMD back and forth: We need both. We need both putting out good products. We need new companies to enter the game too. The last thing you want is for things to become just one company cutting off its R&D budget because it's the only game in town.
Luis Ross
I don't give a shit about fanboyism. I just want a good pc. 7700k or 1700 for a 144hz monitor? I don't get the delid meme about the temp of 7700k. Is that hot? How about 1700/1800? Is that bad for gayming?
Parker Myers
My 1800X does well on a 1440p 144Hz monitor with a 1080ti.
Brandon Thomas
Intel is still 90%+ marketshare, support AMD until it resembles 50% each.
Camden Long
Pirate 7 and get free upgrade.
Gavin Torres
Is getting an 80 plus PSU necessary
Adrian Baker
No.
Lucas Watson
Im going to upgrade from my old potato gt 740 to rx 480 4gb because it gets in my buget.Is there any better choises for the same price?Sorry if thats not the right threat for my question.
Asher Barnes
Since I'm a retard/first time builder, would I be able to use a Ryzen 5 1600 with this socket?
I don't want to cough up for another motherboard on top of an i5, and Ryzens are on sale on Amazon atm
Isaac Smith
Nah m8 Ryzen needs a AM4 socket You'll have to cough up around 70 bucks at least for a b350 so you can overclock it as well
on top of that you can't reuse your ram if its ddr3
the good news is if you invest now you'll get several years out of the mobo because amd is really going to support the am4 socket
Jaxson Edwards
Fair enough. I've got a 1060 and a 650W PSU out for delivery today and was just wondering if I could just hop up to that.
>Having to gut a 300 pound build within a year because its discontinued, the A8 is terrible and the drivers constantly cause it to crash without a separate GPU
Zachary Perez
Admittedly asking to be spoonfed here, but I presume this would all work fine?
The PSU is a G650M and the 1060 is a Zotac
Ryan Russell
Yep would work fine. Ryzen prefers faster ram, though so people here recommend at least 2666 which seems to be the sweet spot but memory is so expensive rn i cant blame anyone for going for 2400
Joshua Thomas
I just went for the set that was on sale for 2 hour delivery, so yeah.
Nathan Jones
>tfw didn't fall for the poozen meme >not going to fall for the poolake either Who here runs their computer on POWER?
Nathaniel Thompson
No but you really should.
Jose Campbell
my budget is more or less 3.5k needs are mainly virtualization (connected with development) and sometimes I'd like to boot into Windows and play a bit.
Should be able to handle my 2 x 4k screen (not while gaming obv.) and I'd like to maybe get a third one, too
>If your build needs Wifi, you will need a Wireless Network Adapter. General rule of thumb is more than 2 antennas
Or one USB wifi adapter and a cable permitting best positioning.
Jeremiah Carter
$359 USD (~$480 leaf/kangaroo bucks) for the i7 8700K, better gaming performance than current Ryzen, but when you think about a 6+ core CPU, it isn't designed for just gaming. If I still had my old Athlon, I'd go for Ryzen as opposed to Intel.
Benjamin Foster
>If I still had my old Athlon, I'd go for Ryzen as opposed to Intel. What? That doesn't make sense. If both are on new platforms it's not like you could just drop a cpu in, so what would it matter which cpu you had before?
Camden Powell
Before this, I had an Athlon X4 880K that ran like a housefire. I wanted to upgrade off that housefire processor, so I went for Ryzen. That's why I brought up my old CPU. I know cores aren't the same across both platforms, but a 4 core 8 thread on Ryzen was $220 (AUD), while the same core count from Intel is $400. Plus, Ryzen has a better upgrade path to it, so I can drop in a 6+ core on Zen2/3.
Carson Bailey
I have a 24in 1080p60 and I want a second monitor, I was considering a 1440 in 24in before I read about eye strain caused by going back and forth between two different resolutions. Can I have some feedback from you guys?
Carter Myers
1440x900 = 26 inch TV 1366x768 = 19 inch monitor My eyes are just fine. Admittedly, I want to get matching monitors because it just feels weird having non-matching monitors, but other than personal preference on the looks, it's fine.
>Coffee Lake isn't a response to Ryzen It is considering the rushed schedule.
It's supposed to be out on 2018 yet here we are 3 months earlier.
Ice Lake will be next year with 8-cores and a new platform. Coffee Lake will be rendered obsolete by Zen 2, they can even throw a couple more cores just to force Intel to shit out 10-cores.
Jaxson Campbell
>ASUS Prime B350M-A, Socket-AM4 or >MSI B350 Tomahawk, Socket-AM4 Is it wort playing a bit extra for ATX Tomahawk? ASUS one s mATX Building for the first time
Juan Turner
tomahawk.
Jacob Rogers
when can we expect Ryzen 2?
Christopher Reyes
The fuck even integrated graphics can do that
Luis Cook
Not him but I've had my eye on asrock x370 taichi because of jap capacitors & support for 600 ohm headphones right on the board is there anything wrong with it? Heard some shit about early bios updates fucking CPUs
Blake Sanchez
>tfw fall for the Ryzen meme >tfw see new Intel line
John Lewis
>600 ohms
If you own headphones that need that much you're gonna have a whole setup for them.
Joseph Smith
Death to Sinus the Faggot.
Carter Hernandez
>see intel line >delid this >a socket a year keeps goyim in fear Nothing of valie was lost
Aiden Nguyen
Isn't this their third this year?
Kayden Hughes
An RX 480 8GB reference card for about $305, is it worth it?
Zachary Nelson
early bios updates didn't fuck CPUs. Early bios updates had problems with ram compatibility and wouldn't boot with certain ram kits. This was fixed with the AGESA updates.
Nicholas Nguyen
>MSI 970 GAMING >AMD FX-4300 >4 2GB DDR3 1333 RAM >NVIDIA GTX 750 TI will this work properly? ive been jewed by ebay sellers and sold a bunch of defective parts and things that were not as described, so i ended up with a bunch of stuff i cant use. running low on funds now. only thing i can possibly use is the slow as fuck ram. open to suggestions at this point
Asher Parker
How long should you run prime95 to validate the stability of an overclock?
Logan Carter
should work fine together.
Kayden Murphy
10 minutes minimum. Personally, I'd do 30 minutes.
Joseph Roberts
15 minutes is sufficent.
Long runs are to test thermals to make sure nothing overheats once the cooler starts chugging it's own hot air.
Joseph Lopez
No. Its a particularly shitty reference
Dylan Ortiz
2018 pinnacle ridge, more like 580 move with ryzen. 2019 - 7nm zen2 cores
Ryder Gutierrez
no. $250 max for the overheating reference shit, $270 for an aib. Just get a 1060 or find a used 980ti. It's compatible, but I feel sorry for you. I hope you escape your poverty.
Alexander Perez
these, but if you are water cooling do like an hour, because water retains the heat, and you won't start seeing it until a while in. youtu.be/eSOcUnn1mtQ
Aaron Sanchez
i wasnt impoverished before this. i had 800 dollars to spend on the pc and i got suckered into chinese "deals" where older parts are sold for so cheap you cant really complain that they arrived broken. i ended up with an lga1156 motherboard and a crappy 2nd gen i5 and 8gb of 1333mhz ram and that gtx 750. altogether it cost me $220 and it woulda been worth it if the mobo wasnt fried.
Jack Young
I've had prime95 crash an hour and a half into a burn. If you're serious about stability you need to go longer than that.
Jace Brooks
So taichi x370 is good to go or are there better boards available for the same price Would greatly prefer durability as i hope to upgrade the cpu during 3rd gen xen
Michael Perez
Excuse my autism but this question is real.
About a month ago I built my first PC - Ryzen 1600 / 1050ti. I fugged up putting my cooler on and while taking it off I accidently scratched my ihs. Pic related. Now, it's probably not a huge deal but it's been making me extremely paranoid. I get around 50C-60C in most games I play, mostly around 55. It's not super hot here (ambient around 20) so I'm not sure how normal that is. Here's where the autism kicks in; I'm genuinely thinking of buying a new CPU. How retarded would that be? I should probably upgrade to a 1060 first and run my 1600 to the ground right? Please no bully.
Julian Bell
The actual CPU die is in the center of the heatspreader, so it shouldn't make a tangible difference in temps. Filling in the gaps is what thermal paste is for anyway.
Camden Lopez
I should've said too, 50-60c is fine. Those are actually good load temps.
Logan Gray
Scratching IHS is no big deal. CPU is under it so IHS kind of acts like armor.
Julian Martin
The scratch isn't even where the die is. The thermal transfer of the IHS isn't going to be affected in any meaningful way.
Xavier Torres
should be fine.
Chase Rogers
I've bought about 50 games through allkeyshop and only one key for revoked by steam for stolen credit card
Connor Phillips
lol, you could 400grit sandpaper the fucker and it wouldn't be that much of an issue. You're fine.
Jayden Collins
>Corsair Force MP500 240GB M.2 PCIe SSD M.2 2280, PCIe, NVME, up to 3000/2400MB/s read/write, 349 TBW >Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB 2.5" SSD OEM SATA 3.0, 2.5", up to 550/490MB/s read/write, 7mm, 100 TBW Is this a big difference? Corsair costs twice as much
Mason Baker
About to buy a 1050 and sell my old 750 ti. Should come out to $70 CDN after I sell it. Worth the upgrade?
Carter Martin
One is SSD and the other is m.2 NVME. If you don't work with massive files then NVME is a waste of money. There are M.2 SSDs if you want less clutter at a similar price point as normal SSD.
Colton Perry
I mean, I guess you don't really understand the specs you just posted. The corsair one uses the m. 2 pcie interface and should be quite fast. It also has 3.5 times the rated write durability. The Kingston one uses the slower sata interface. But the thing is, sata ssds are so fast for daily use that you won't really notice a difference with a pcie one. Just get the cheap one.
Kevin Anderson
Wait, how much are you selling your 750ti for? I ask because I'm considering selling mine, and have no clue what a realistic price is desu
Nathan Ortiz
Selling it for $100 CDN, which is a little low. I've seen prices range from $80 (really low) to $140 (you gotta be kidding bro)
Parker Howard
get a 1050ti or a used 960 instead if you really want it to feel like a worthwhile upgrade.
Brandon Allen
>used GPUs 1. Fans rattle like the screams of the damned 2. Cryptofucked 3. Smells like an ashtray
One or more of the above will definitely happen. No thanks.
Carson Cox
get a 1050ti or save for a 1060
Xavier Reed
1 and 3 can be fixed if you are aren't too simple to look up a YouTube guide. 2) probably won't happen because a gtx 960 is going to have terrible hashes per watt for crypto.
Hudson Gonzalez
pcpartpicker.com/list/QJq9kT Is this retarded? Considering switching 1600x to plain 1600, I currently have a Phenom system and I plan to use the case, PSU(450W), HDDs and the HSF, not really settled on the exact parts yet + I'm a filthy euro so prices are a bit off
Nolan Edwards
Get the 1600. It's cheaper, comes with a decent cooler and OCs the same. Consider a dual fan GPU to keep temps and noise down.
