Isn't it funny how, now that we have enough graphical power to render decent skeuomorphic design...

Isn't it funny how, now that we have enough graphical power to render decent skeuomorphic design, we instead decided to make everything flat and material?

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Truly disgusting

>not using a skeuomorphic calculator

There is literally nothing wrong with skeuomorphism.

skeuomophic and flat are fine, but material is fucking cancer; even more when used on websites

Flat design is the best. It doesn't have stupid glow on every button and it isn't too simplistic.

"Material" is literally one company's guideline for flat.

What ever happened to native buttons? Are they too ugly and distracting for you to suck dick around?

Designers used these shades to hide pixels in lower res screens in the past. Flat design is here to point out the sharpness of modern screens.

But I use one..

And they violate their own guidelines and are constantly changing them

Truth is that millennials have no idea what the skeuomorphic designs represent from the real world, so they move away from them.

Actual, physical calculators or floppy disks are unknown to them.

What a load of shit.
Millennials were born in the 80s.

Who started this "flat" thing anyway?

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flat is the only right choice unless you are 10 years old

App name pls user-kun

droid48

My eyes

The buttons are nice but there's no reason beyond misguided nostalgia to have the display like that.

You can improve it?

Why does anyone like material? The mixture of totally abstract interface, drop shadows, and ambiguous touch/click boundaries is maddening.

Thanks :3

So much this

why waste power on rounded corners? This is beyound me. Old firefox was working like on steroids, all this css rounded bullshit UGH. Compare win7 aero vs win7 classic shell or even 8. Battery life, temps, IT MAKES ME WANT TO KILL MYSELF!!!!

FUCK YOUR PROGRESS!!!!!

I can't understand why people use another calculator on their phone.

I actually don't either I just wanted to have it for aesthetics

There are parts of material that are genuinely good, but parts of it are completely horseshit.
Simple stuff like sliding a transition horizontally when the user clicks on a tab to give them a hint that they can swipe instead, or basic guidelines about navigation, that stuff is alright

designing something that looks good is hard it's easier to just slap on plain fields

i know retards like you don't understand such a complicated concept but please consider the following.
Choice.

>wasting power on rounded corners
This isn't early 90s, dad. Round or square corners in modern display engines cost the same.

I would like that middle one more if it had thicker font like in the first one. The first one has the problem of having empty space between buttons so there's a possibility of clicking nothing if you don't click slowly.

So, I happen to find this amazing calc app today called "archimedes" (android). The design is just really really good. Not too minimalistic or obnoxious. Pic related

That's shit.

Windows 8. Then Jobs, the big skeuomorphism supporter within Apple died and Jony I've (who hates it) and Scott Forstall started fighting over the redesign of the new version of the iOS. Ive won and Forstall was fired.

You meant the illusion of choice? LEt's force shit by default untill sheep are drowning in it, and then remove the other options?
If only it were true. Opacity, rounded corners, still taxes any system, from desktop to mobile. Easy to bench too.

>decent
>skeuomorphic
skeuo is fugly and inconsistent

flat has less room for variation between softwares and thus creates more system-wide consistency

>easily taxes any system
except for any computer built in the last 10 years
its time for an upgrade grampa

>my theme is better than yours
Don't you have more important things to worry about in life than what a fucking calculator looks like

App name?

yes

Bro material design is excellent. There's a lot of theory that goes into it, and it it really helps with the UX. material.io/guidelines/

This is why I like material design. The widgets themselves are easy to make out, yet depth is still an integral part of the entire system.

material.io/guidelines/material-design/elevation-shadows.html

It's not flat, see Also, now that Microsoft copied Material Design, it's not just Google anymore.

I really miss skeuomorphism. Modern design is so soulless.

Already optimised for the iPhone X? I like it!

(Nah, it's shit)

This right here is why skeuomorphism is, when used correctly, perfect for UIs. If that interface there was flat and white, the first time user would not instinctively know where to click or tap. Yes, they could reason it all out by looking over the text labels, but the separation of controls is clean and obvious. With flat designs users often find themselves unable to visually digest a whole screen at first glance.

So pretty and a good selection of buttons. What's the app called?

True, but it need not go to that extreme, a happy medium works best, although I prefer if its a little skewed toward flat.

"Classic Calculator"

FX-7000G

what's the purpose of making digital interfaces look like the real thing?

Bad:
all material design
lazy, glossy skeuomorphism

Good:
werc
well-done skeuomorphism
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>implying skeuomorphic is more aesthetic than flat and minimal

this.

are you a retard? most millennials are at least approaching 20's.

for those who don't know what werc is:
werc.cat-v.org/

Agreed, which is why I say "when used correctly". It can be much more subdued that it used to be, but some sense of depth helps the human eye distinguish things and separate sections of a UI. Forms are a great example. How many times have you used something that has fields to enter that are white on white and flat? It's just not intuitive.
>Fill in the form
>"You have not completely filled out this form.."

your comment should be a banner for Sup Forums

Do iPads still not ship with a calculator app?

No one said it had to replicate an antiquated look or a specific real world object. It's just about adding some depth so that the UI reads easier to the human eye.
Aesthetics should be secondary to function, and if adding some depth and sense of dimension helps most people use it faster and easier, then it's served it's purpose. Once you put aesthetics over function you have lost sight of your purpose in creating a UI. Make it work first, then tweak toward most visually appealing version that doesn't lose the function.

>No one said it had to replicate an antiquated look or a specific real world object.

>A skeuomorph (/ˈskjuːəˌmɔːrf, ˈskjuːoʊ-/[1][2]) is a derivative object that retains ornamental design cues (attributes) from structures that are inherent to the original.
>Skeuomorphism is the design concept of making items represented resemble their real-world counterparts.
>Apple announced it would scrap the "traditional" look of its mobile apps which mimicked real world objects. This is "skeuomorphic" design.

Realistically, everything all the way back to the late 90's. I can't think of a single pre-gpu video chipset from the late 90's that didn't completely offload screen drawing from the CPU. Everything had full 2D acceleration, even shit-tier cards like the SiS 6326 had full GUI acceleration.

I said "specific" real world objects. Resemble and replicate are not the same thing. The old iPhone calculator, while admittedly garish, does not replicate a real calculator someone could buy. It just has the look of something that could be. I'm advocating for retaining some aspects of this to give depth so that it functions better as an interface. I'm not advocating cartoonishly designed interfaces that look like they came from 1995. Don't throw the whole concept away and create these minimal, flat, heartless looking things. Keep enough to be helpful.

right, a little shading with a beveled edge or maybe a shadowed edge is likely enough.
this whole flat, lifeless shit is just that... shit.

Pic related is just right.

Material is basically flat with skeuomorphic-esque shadowing/depth.

flat designs seem to be serving everyone but retards on Sup Forums just fine. they're easier to decipher.

Loved it on my old DAW's. Shit like Ableton is too sterile looking.

Remember when "Web 2.0" came out, and suddenly everything had rounded corners with a an ugly shine glazed over everything? It was goddamn terrible.

Now you faggots want it back? Make up your minds.

>Compare win7 aero vs win7 classic shell or even 8. Battery life, temps, IT MAKES ME WANT TO KILL MYSELF!!!!
Unless you're using an old intel IGP, aero and beyond is preferable because a lot more is handled by the GPU making it less battery intensive and giving you a more responsive system overall. Bonus points for avoiding pic related. Did you know you can actually achieve this in windows 7 simply by turning off aero?

They still don't.
t. iFap user

I think it's just to throw app devs a bone

that looks more like web 1.5

the calendar app, looking like a specific calendar, is exactly what we're talking about
how about you read OP before posting in a thread pretending you know anything
mk mkay

Material design is godawful. The excessive padding, the overload of shadows and the color schemes make it look incredibly childish, it doesn't look versatile enough for the 'universal interface' google wants to accomplish. Their approach to depth is just right, but there's no need for that look straight out of Fisher Price. On top of that, Roboto makes it look cheap since it's just a discount version of a great typeface and it's just used for everything, smeared all over the interface with no nuance unlike any other major OS.

Microsoft, slowly but surely, is actually doing a better version of material design's guidelines across their websites and OS even with their blatant half-assed inconsistencies. Chrome OS looks like a bootleg Windows 10.

>calendar app
>"how about you read OP before posting..."
You made me go back and look just in case, I'll give you that. 1/10

I don't care what design a calculator app uses. I just want it to work.

>using a fuck ugly skeuomorphic design

material looks like shit. holy fuck it's ugly.

>now that microsoft copied material design
they fused a lot of popular design systems, and some elements from metro

I'd skeuomorphic your calculator if you know what I mean

I came.

Don't worry about that idiotic "flat" design. Let sites and specially webshops that use it go away on their own.

There is research that shows that skeuomorphic design is the easiest to use and, more importantly, the best-selling webshop design.

It's a design which makes it very clear what are buttons that can be clicked on and what's not. If a percentage of a webshops customers can't see or figure out where the checkout button is then they are not going to be making a purchase.

Flat design may stay there for websites that don't require much interaction and don't generate revenue, specially if it's not related to sales. But it will die as sites and products that don't use it out-compete sites and products that do.

Flat is a dumb choice regardless of your age.

tell me what a millennial is.

>skeuomorphic

try anything from ***REDACTED***

it's useless btw you just look at anime desktop underage porn

sorry you're so stupid that you rely completely on a dictionary to make your argument because the nuance that someone used in a conversation isn't covered in the list of alternative definitions.

We entered a new era, the notch design era

HiPER calc

>You meant the illusion of choice? LEt's force shit by default untill sheep are drowning in it, and then remove the other options?
no actual choice and not the garbage you want
just because it's a current practice that choice is removed doesn't mean that you should embrace it.
>If only it were true. Opacity, rounded corners, still taxes any system, from desktop to mobile. Easy to bench too.
and i am not allowed to make the choice to use it because you are scared of options.
The reason that retarded developers are removing choices is because people like you are unable to deal with having more than one thing

>now that we have enough graphical power to render decent skeuomorphic design
What are you on about? Those designs don't take more or less per to render, since it's based on images. There's no special power needed. Even Winamp had skeumorphic design.

>Roboto makes it look cheap since it's just a discount version of a great typeface
Did you mix up Roboto with Arial? It's actually a really good display font.

If you're looking for an RPN calculator but don't care about the HP feel, RpnCalc is a great alternative and it's not flat.

Material is really well thought and when executed properly translates to a natural user experience.
I used to jerk off to the skeumorphism bandwagon back in the 3GS and Snow Leopard days but nowdays I can't stand all that glossy shit filled with gradients.

Material design wastes so much time trying to find stuff or do any complex operation

Of those pictured, flat is objectively the best.

Is that the iphone calculator app?

Get with the times, grandpa

It's for history

The perfect balance of skeuomorphic and flat design.

The more I look at this the more I like it. It's not out of 1995 with massive swaths of gloss and shadows, it doesn't look like the buttons are trying to appear to stick half an inch out or have curved recesses. There is just enough to very clearly denote what is a button, where the output is with a slight sink, to avoid the eye mixing results with the UI above it, and what is "written on the case" above the buttons. The color variations are subtle and mostly part of the same scheme. The only ones that stick out are the shift to match the color of whats above the buttons, and the two green "these will mess your shit up if you accidentally press them" buttons. It could go a little flatter, or stay like this, but you'd loose a lot by straying too far in either direction. Takes my eyes to the right places and very comfy. (click on the thumbnail to expand it as it looks bad as a thumbnail.)

Skeuomorphism and Web 2.0 were the Christian dark ages of web design, prove me wrong.

Wrong. Flat is shit and material is amazing, on phones only. Skeuomorphic is good on everything.