NAS Solution

Is a NAS a meme piece of tech? I just bought one today and it was a PITA to setup but it is working great.

pic related, a basic NAS

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NAS is for people too dumb to own servers

>>NAS is for people not autistic enough to own servers

ftfy

keep your wannabee sysadmin larping faggotry in one fucking thread

Yep
>buy old core 2 pc
>install hdds
>install freenas
>enjoy better data integrity and use all the cash you saved to power it for a year or 2

He was right, no need for "correction".

The prebuilt NAS boxes are for people who don't actually know how to set one up and don't intend to do much with it. It's far more effective to buy cheap computer hardware and build your own using FreeNAS. If you actually know what you're doing, you can build it using your favorite distro.

>PITA to setup
This is why you buy Synology and not Buffalo. It's not a meme - it lets you offload a bunch of shit from your computer so you don't need to leave it on.

Define "effective" because a freeNAS project is not a good use of my most limited resource - time. Also, power usage will be utter shit.

>Also, power usage will be utter shit.
Not unless you build it out of a P4. A 10-20w celeron will work.

>Define "effective"
More options, cheaper, about the same electricity usage.

Add to that: faster

blocks your path

>NAS or old laptop with USB hard drives attached
>40W
>some shitty self built server or old enterprise shit
>300W
Really makes you think

I have an old laptop I want to use for media server/nextcloud but shit only supports sata2. I can hook a second HDD thorough esata but that's about it. Would I be better off connecting external USB 3.0 drives directly to the router?

My PC only has sata 2 (x5650 master race)

I still get 100mb/s to my NAS up and down.

>using a server for a NAS job
You're too dumb to figure out how to work a purpose-built appliance and you're calling the rest of us dumb? /hsg/ lobotomites are fucking cancer.

just hook up an USB storage to something the network and share it. bam, NAS

ds116 works fine here

Sounds like it'd work good enough. Guess I'll get a WD red for esata port then.

>$10 bucks of power per year.
>Anyone on gent recommending a NAS over Server

Really noodles the niggin.

>8GB ram for freeNAS
Wut. Should I just set this up on Ubuntu server or Debian instead? This laptop has only 2GB ddr2 ram.

/thread

You could do with less, but it's a risk, maybe only if it's a small file server that only you use and don't move a ton of files at once.
For proper file integrity I'd suggest getting a cheap second hand server or workstation anyway because safe RAM is the lynchpin of ZFS.

Should I just get a NAS box for a budget solution? I only intend to use it for myself and my gf.

electricity aint cheap mate

Well not were i live anyway :(

or just run S2D/SOFS which will run on only a couple GB

I'm currently running media server on Ubuntu. Would using it for nextcloud need more than 2GBs? And which filesystem should I be using then if ZFS needs 8GB?

CSVFS_ReFS

is it viable to build a NAS from a celeron processor and mobo combo for less than buying one of the shelf?

Zfs doesn't need 8gb. However much you have will be perfectly fine, it will just cache less. For a file server it doesn't matter at all because you're only going to be reading from it sequentially at 1gbps anyway

Depends solely on the use case, a NAS is ideal if all you want is to share data to networked devices on a LAN, nothing more and nothing less.

NAS are too expensive

>he doesnt have quad 10GbE

this
Is there any chinese version of RPi that good for NAS setup?

Just an i350-T4, would rather spend the cash on HDDs

>bixnood.net
Noice

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>this
>Is there any chinese version of RPi that good for NAS setup?
Odroid c2

A NAS is a server, faggot.

>NAS at home
Just buy external hdd.

NAS is a network added storage, you imbecile

Which is a file server, clinical retard

I heard a NAS can increase your VPN speed significantly. Where as most routers max out at 30Mbps, nas can get you 200Mbps - if you own internet connection is fast enough of course.

Is this true? How does that work?

Orange pi zero h2+.

And how would you connect drives to it?

Not sure why I would do one over a file server... (power savings and license I guess?)

power, noise, size and convenience is the appeal. Mine doesnt do anything a server couldn't however it sits on my TV unit quietly destroying hollywood and giving my data to the FBI via bittorrent and streaming to both TVs in the house.

Why, I would use the orange pi zero nas expansion board ofcourse.

>Mine doesn't do anything a server couldn't

I'm thinking about getting a 4 bay synology NAS and sticking 10tb drives in it. I need to store a lot of porn, good idea or no?

I stopped storing porn, there are lots and lots of sites streaming porn, old and new.

Yeah but think of that $8 a year power savings, it will pay for itself!

It doesn't?

I guess if the router's processor was absolute garbage and bottlenecking on the tunnel's encryption you might be able to obtain additional throughput by setting up a port forward / DNAT and using the NAS as your VPN Gateway instead.

A NAS's processor is more likely to be a bit beefier (for video transcoding and other NAS jobs).

>his nas isnt a chink clone of pi with a usb drive connected

Aren't there SATA and M.2 expansion boards for Orange Pi? Why use USB when you can do that?

they cost money

dunno, lad. 3 days worth of lunch money.
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if i had that money i'd buy a real pi
doesn't even look like there are such adapters for my model (orange pi pc)

works with all orange pi boards. see pic.
>if i had that money i'd buy a real pi
raspberry doesn't have any such expansion boards as far as i know
>if i had that money
wtf i almost want to lend you some money now

+1
Top tier NAS box

>almost

So, why is this shit discontinued?
Are we getting something new with the 10NM meme?

Is that a legacy PCI connector?

2 sata conectors
>let that thing die

because its crap - get a real server faggot

xeon or neck yourself

thoughts on qnap? my synology 2-bay was getting too small, so I upgraded to a TS-451.

It's super easy to get DLNA setup and all the TV's / Speakers in the house auto-connect. Collection is about 6.5Tb between mkv dvd collection and music (just many years of aggregating stuff.)

This board is more for replacing old POS/Industrial stuff hence the PCI slot and serial ports on back

It have 4
Anyways they make them with 6 and you can get 4 more on pci

What do you guys use as a backup solution? I'm building for my FIL who's a business owner and I'd like a free software that will copy files I specify from his SSD to an internal storage drive on a set schedule. Any recommendations? Appreciated.

While I may be wrong I don't believe that the SBC can supply enough power to more than one 5200rpm HDDs and as such requires modifications or a self-supplying case for multiple drives.

>muh electricity
get a load of this faggots

How much?

you don't pay for your own electricity, do you

11-17W on a headless Server

under decent load it peaks at 39W

what is this, a server for ants?

buy a real one poorfag

no rack, no life

I have a Dell r710 you mongoloid
I live alone with a decent income, I pay 128€ a month for electicity and I don't care. I have a small apartment in a relativeley big city and have no car / wife I need to pay for
so fuck you

>get a 100w processor to store chink porn and run rtorrent

What about no you subhuman

Can you put an OS on this shit or is it just a brainless fuckhole?

we were talking about a server which could replace a NAS. Read the thread before posting!

>server
>can I put a Server OS on it
of course you can put any Server OS you want on it, kiddo
start using your search engine of choice instead of demanding to be spoonfeeded

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>One (1) SATA port
>For a nas
what? just pick up any old office pc for pennies/free and throw in 6 drives with zfs and raid6. Boom, massive storage, redundancy, and expandability with reasonable power draw

truth hurts doesn't it, brainlet

Buying NAS for home or small office is stupid. I hope you're not one of these guys, user?
NAS is meant for zero config storage OFF-FUCKING-SITE. You buy and run servers ON-SITE and put your NAS in your grandma's house far, far away.

Replace the wireless card in the laptop with a mini pcie to pcie x1 adapter, then plug in a raid card to it. Use an ATX power supply to power the drives.

It's really not reasonable power drawn and in some use cases portability and form factor would be a concern. You also need to spin fans in old workstation PCs so there's noise to factor in, too.

Frankly the ODroid HC1 is probably the best choice since it's stackable and comes with all the necessary accessories for NAS work. the only problem being having several power supplies instead of one.

>I've never tried to recover long deleted shit
>it works great
You don't belong here

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Finished my FreeNAS build a few days ago.

It's comfy.

Say 250w peak for a nas with 6+ mechanical drives, with an i3 and a 10Gb NIC. I find that reasonable enough. If you mind noise just throw in a passive cooler for the cpu and a single low speed fan

Basically this.
If you buy a real NAS/SAN of course it's different, but these synology type appliances are utter trash.
A 3U 19" 24 slot 2.5" or 12 slot 3.5" disk shelf is a different thing. Just iSCSI that shit over 10/40G to your storage controller and run a filesystem like ZFS.

>you can build it using your favorite distro.
You sort of want to run ZFS on FreeBSD.
I'm not saying you should use FreeNAS. Personally I found it to be a pain in the ass but a FreeBSD box would definitely do the job.

Aside from that, anyone else annoyed by the retarded terminology FreeNAS uses compared to actual ZFS?

Tfw I just want to get my 16 disk synology box so I don't have to give a shit about Network Storage availabity.

>linux runs like charm
>for poo in the loo there's windows server

that could be a pretty nice case for a PC desu.

>$400 for a service warranty that'll never get used
You could build the same system for way cheaper.

a NAS is a server you dumb autistic basement dwelling shit heap

>hurr but I meant rackmount server
pic related

I own a 2600k, PSU, case, shitty motherboard.

What do you recommend? Freenas? Owncloud? Give me advice. I just want to put my content on it and back it up with other external drives when it's not being used. Preferably with a system that can automatically checksum everything for data errors etc.

Just curious, What's the difference in using FreeNAS vs some distro, aside from one being BSD, and the other GNU/Linux?

I most certanly not recomend freenas or owncloud.
Since you neither have the time nor the patience to assemble both nor have ecc ram.

Google XPEnology, it's simple to use and easy to setup.

Freenas has a Web frontend+ Scripts that do most of the work for you?
And is more reliable then a regular FreeBSD installation because it warns you of shit going south if you're not an experienced FreeBSD admin.