General: >If your build isn't completely Poverty-tier, consider an SSD. Consider buying a large SSD for the price of an HDD + SSD, and saving 50$ to buy an HDD >If your build needs Wifi, you will need a Wireless Network Adapter. General rule of thumb is more than 2 antennas. 2.4ghz or 5.
If you want help: >Remember, we're not here to build a PC for you, we're here to help you >View this handy guide on picking parts (MSRP) logicalincrements.com/ >Assemble a part list pcpartpicker.com/ >If your part list needs a monitor, include information like response time, refresh rate, and resolution >State the budget & currency for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaymen, Video Editing, etc >Learn how to build a PC (You can find a lot more detailed videos on other channels) youtube.com/watch?v=VhdV2wv3jQs
CPUs: No i5's unless discounted >A8-9600 (APU) - Poverty-tier builds (At this point, if it's for gaymen, you should just buy an Optiplex and put a GPU in) >R3 1200 - Budget builds (~500) >R3 1300x - Gap between 1200 & Ryzen 5, consider a 1400 if you need multithreading >R5 1600 - Best bang for your buck with gaymen & mixed uses, 1600x if you don't like overclocking >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper - Heavy multi-tasking & mixed uses, not just for gaymen
GPUs: Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up, using an old GPU or waiting to build may be a good idea right now. >1050 TI - 1080p 60hz at low/medium settings (Anything below this, if it's for gaymen, you should just buy an Optiplex and put a better GPU in) >RX 580 - 1080p 60hz at high/ultra settings, supports Freesync >1060 6GB - 1080p 60hz at high/ultra settings, supports G-Sync >1070 - 1080p 144hz at high/ultra settings, or 1440p 60hz at high/ultra settings >1080 TI - 1440p 144hz at high/ultra settings, or 4k 60hz at high/ultra settings
RAM: RAM costs so much because newer phones use DDR4 memory. >Check your Mobo's QVL >Ryzen CPUs benefit a lot from high speed RAM, 3200MHz is ideal
Is a Crosshair VI Hero for $268 AUD good? its being sold as an ex demo item from a shop near me. What features will i see on it vs other mother boards? seems super expensive even without everything else taken into account
Gavin Long
Especially as an ex-demo, no. Do you want X370 features (e.g. SLI, more USB, SATA, and PCI-e) anyway?
Asher Anderson
I punched my hopeful build of an OCed Ryzen 1600x and EVGA GTX 1080 Ti Kingpin(I might settle, but are there any cheaper cards with that much memory?) into outervision.com/power-supply-calculator, and it suggested 750W. I'm thinking about spending extra to get better efficiency, is it better to shoot for higher wattage to hit that sweet spot, or get a higher 80 PLUS rating? I'm considering a Titanium rated PSU because it's the only rating that has an efficiency requirement at 10% usage.
Michael Cook
>1600x 750w is fine; you won't use near that much anyway.
Brayden White
Even if it's OCed as high as it'll go, with a GTX 1080 Ti at the same?
Dominic Allen
550W
Charles Powell
That's aud keep in mind, the retail is $350. I don't need sli as much as I need the full speed pcie ports for GPUs running independent of each other. More sata would be g, didn't check how many it had.
Josiah Edwards
>vll and ll what a bunch of garbage, how the fuck is anyone supposed to know what that means. low latency is something like cl5 ddr2, cl7 ddr3 bet these cucks consider cl 14 somehow low latency
Chase Williams
That's around 450w at most factoring in your whole system. Also 1600x isn't worth it without a discount. Consider it, then. Could be worth it I guess.
Jackson Scott
Already got the 1600x/mobo/RAM, 1600x was on sale for $200. How the fuck was the calculator saying up to ~700w under load?! But a 750w Titanium is fine then?
Mason Collins
Why does this thread exist f the old one isn't done?
Joshua Nelson
OP the faggot forgot to list the W7 compatibility steps for Ryzen.
This does not justify making a new thread when last isn't on bump limit
Simply reply to the OP with that link and make it next time
Move out guys
Caleb Edwards
Got a H61 motherboard I pulled from a Lenovo prebuilt system that was using an i5 2320 at the time. I'm wondering if it will work with a i5 3330 or not? I hear some H61 motherboards will work with Ivy Bridge if they have a BIOS update, I presume a motherboard that came in a prebuilt Lenovo tower is unlikely to have a BIOS update for that?
Thanks senpaitachi.
Jayden Clark
>3.9 Ghz Poozen beating 5Ghz kaby lake quadcore okk....
Gavin Ramirez
RAM prices will go down again r-right?
Gavin Evans
What aftermarket cooler should I put on top of an i5 4590? Also whats up with Noctuas being a meme now?
Jason Butler
>comparing CPU Ghz in a video game.
One day user, one day you will have some experience and knowledge of computers under your belt.
it's not even 'beating', it just had one instance where the max fps was higher, but the average is still undercut
Hudson Perez
I'm in love with Vega and I demand her in op.
Austin Smith
No reason to get a Crosshair unless you plan on doing some serious memory tinkering and OCing. t. CH6 owner
Aiden Campbell
The benchmark is obviously GPU limited The CPUs perform almost identically
Thomas Robinson
>if your build needs wifi, find a motherboard that has integrated wifi, it's easier
Jonathan Allen
shit colours. consider getting G2460PF (better but still bad) or xg2401 if you want something that doesn't give you eye cancer
Jace Hill
Not really worth the cost, and sometimes the module eats up PCIe lanes, so if the module dies (and they do--the one on my laptop is dead), the mobo is basically fucked.
Kevin Peterson
Why are there three fucking threads?
I guess I'll ask here too
Is NVME a meme or should I just get a 7200RPM drive?
James Sanders
it sounds like you bought a cheap laptop that needs to be replaced
but that's just me
Nicholas Hall
here's what they're going to tell you
>nvme is for advanced workload, you don't need it!
what you really need to know
SSD is like 300% as fast as an HDD, and NVMe is like 10% faster than SATA
just buy an NVMe and enjoy not having to wait for anything. (seriously you don't even have time to read the tips on the loading screen)
Angel Howard
Nah, just old. HP Pavillion dm4. But I encountered the same thing with PS3 with onboard vs accessory blu tooth chips
Benjamin King
Can I rip the 2.5'' drive out of this little portable HDD that I used to store my gaymes on for my laptop and shove it in somewhere in my computer? I don't want to have to reinstall all my games.
Connor Ross
Cheapest build that will allow me comfy gayming on 1080p ultra 60+ fps on every gaym. I don't want to oc and ssd.
Luke Price
overpriced im running off a 5400rpm drive and the boot is plenty fast waiting 5 seconds less for boot and game launches is not worth hundreds of dollars
Ian Kelly
i5 and a 1060?
Caleb Gutierrez
>I don't want to oc and ssd. You don't what to OC? AND no SSD? Overclocking is so easy children could do it. SSDs are practically a necessity.
Hudson Hall
It's not about how hard it is (because it isn't), but about how long it will run and ssd don't improve really performance in muh gayms (i'm using pc in 95% to gayming).
Kevin Thompson
Is samsung still the only crew that makes good SSDs?
Jack Walker
Upgrading from a 4670k and single rx 480, trying not to btfo out of my 5-600 dollar budget for cpu, mobo, and ram.
Should I go with the 1600 and faster ram, or 1700 and whatever ram I can find (probably 2666)?
Planning to add another rx 480 to cf and just move everything into my current case.
Liam Roberts
...
Justin Taylor
For those that already have a cooler:
William Adams
too weak to maintain in every gaym 60fps+ on ultra (even struggle in some games on high to maintain 60fps)
Jack Baker
what is it with you guys on this board
>i don't want to overclock >WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO OVERCLOCK FAGGOT
>i don't want a pc, i want a laptop >WHY DON'T YOU WANT A LAPTOP FAGGOT
>i want an iphone >WHY DO YOU WANT AN IPHONE FAGGOT
>i want a rooted android phone, an AMD pc that i can overclock, and at least two VMs of linux >WHY ARE YOU SUCH A NERD FAGGOT
if something rubs you the wrong way, just fucking ignore it, jeez
Carson Howard
1600x and a 1060 6gb
Anthony Reyes
ssds are the least important part stop watching youtube shills
Jack Hill
Why are you so worried about Internet name-calling, faggot?
Daniel Clark
you sure? it's one rung below 1070 and 1070 is a 1440p card
Elijah Lewis
as i said earlier not enough for stable 60fps on ultra in every gaym
Jonathan Long
i dont get it is radeon part of amd?
Connor Parker
then overclock you faggot instead of wasting money
Kevin Gonzalez
I know 1070 is able to go 2k, but there isn't any card between 1070 and 1060 in performance
Thomas Fisher
1060 3GB is missing.
David Collins
So get a 1070 or rx 580. Why are you asking for recommendations when you have a build in mind? Guessing games are retarded.
Carter Barnes
AMD bought ATI and the Radeon trademark.
Brandon Foster
NO CUZ MUH LIFETIME
Isaiah Reyes
A 256GB Samsung 950 Evo NVME drive for 160CAD.
Is it worth it as a boot drive?
Isaac Cruz
I'm asking, bc I don't know what cpu to choose (i thought about i5 4690k/1600/8350k/7600k) and sufficient amount of ram (ddr3 16gb/ ddr4 8gb)
Anthony Wood
>try to overclock 960 >overvolt by +1 mV >every game crashes less than 30 seconds in
Julian Ward
>I dont want to oc >lets spend more on unlocked cpus
Elijah Parker
If you're asking about "cheapest", then you know exactly what constraints you're optimizing against. It's not even a linear problem. Get whichever combination of CPU and RAM you're willing to consider that costs the least money. Job done.
Adrian Evans
Most of oc versions have higher base performance than non oc
Landon Perry
>not telling if 8gb ram is sufficient for 7/8 gen intel cpu and zen in comparison to 4th gen intel with twice as much ram >thinking job is done
Colton Evans
how much would it cost to set up a camera network of 8 480p cameras? how much would the wiring cost per foot?
Hudson Ross
no
Aiden Phillips
>So get a 1070 or rx 580. These aren't on the same performance level at all.
Don't upgrade mobo+CPU+RAM yet. Also CF sucks. Don't bother.
If you're buying new don't buy any DDR3 platform. 8GB is enough, with the exception being BF1. Just get an R3 1200 or 1500X and a 1060 and quit asking for something that's unreasonable (try playing Mafia 3 at 60FPS Ultra).
1080p @ 144hz (or as high as possible without being ridiculous)
and yeah i'd like to make one of those super flashy RGB builds
Thomas Thomas
I have socket 1150 and i just wanted to ask if ryzen 1600 non oc with 8 gb ram + b350 mobo will be better option in par with 1070 than buying a i5 4690k with 16 gb + 1070.Am i now clear what i want or i need to simplify even more?
Cooper Barnes
>simplify You are a defensive retard who can't even explain himself correctly. Have a nice life
Blake Flores
Wait for 1070ti (that price is awful), and you don't need 6 fans, even if your case supports it. Spend the mpney on a better graphics card or monitor (1070 is good for 1440p), and buy RGB later.
Ayden Collins
Sure, just throw your money at things because it sounds good.
Lincoln Cox
clearly he wants a high refresh rate rather than 1440p. you cant take advantage of both with a 1070
Juan Torres
>price is awful
...it's $50-$100 less than a gtx1080
Nathan Williams
Going to buy the shit out of an 8700K tomorrow, assuming they are actually available.
Are they super definitely guaranteed to work with Windows 7? The trouble is just telling the Windows updater to fuck off, right? If I can't use Windows 10 is it better for me to just wait to make sure?
Leo Edwards
because you are a dumb intel shill
Jacob Lewis
>that much butthurt over someone on internet
Easton Jones
>buying a $400 6 core CPU >dumb frogposter checks out
(dubs) I don't care what my system looks like desu
Samuel Williams
get a BX 300 instead they are newer and faster than the MX 300
Juan Hall
Final build, for light-mid gaming in 1440p but mostly coding and productivity shit. Windows on the Pro (already have it) and Linux on the Evo.
Where did I fuck up?
Luke Scott
>B350 AM4 boards say they support 3000/3200mhz ram >they actually don't according to most reviews fucking hell why does picking parts have to be such a fucking BITCH
Liam Ortiz
Intel cucks btfo
Justin Torres
>muh ram argument fuck off intel shill go back to stuttering
Andrew Nguyen
I just got a ryzen 7 chip in from amazon and it is a 1716PGT
How would I explain to amazon that I want another one?
Austin Cook
They do, but they don't support all of it (a lot of Hynix memory is not supported).
Adrian Rodriguez
>1716PGT how could you tell?
Jeremiah Bennett
It says on the chip on the front of the box.
I just got it and am very disappointed, I wanted to build over the thanksgiving weekend (Canada) and I am annoyed.
Jackson White
NVMe SSDs for regular use is a meme unless you use it for VM, scratch disks, or deal with large files on a regular basis to take advantage of its speed. Whoever removed this snippet from the OP is a faggot
Christopher Diaz
go for a more popular one like 1700 so you get fresh stock
Finally put together this new box to last me the next 5 years, everything works fine that I can tell, only issue I'm having at the moment is that while rear jack audio is fine, front jack sound is highly distorted. Only using headphones at the moment, no speakers. The Realtek audio manager notices when the headphones are plugged in and set them up, and their testing sound works and sounds accurate; though in mono and not stereo. I've looked in my case and it seems like everything is connected; all that isn't hooked up from case to mobo is the fan-control.
What's likely to be the problem? Loose/incorrect front jack connection to the mobo?
Anthony Lewis
>video games aren't large files
Zachary Bennett
>being poor
Adam Ross
You bought a new system to last five years and you couldn't be bothered to wait another thirteen hours for Coffee Lake?
Anyway, you need 32GB of RAM for stereo audio.
Kevin Allen
>loading muh gaems 5 seconds faster is worth $200 buy a better graphics card instead
Ayden White
Unless you play the copy+paste game with your files the difference in boot between (quality) AHCI and NVMe solid-state drives is less than a second.
Liam Edwards
Have >i5-4670k >full ATX mobo for it >stock intel cooler >16GB RAM
Help me build a pseudo-NAS type home server /pcbg/. What should I buy as >case >PSU >~4TB storage with raid 1 >better CPU cooler? Would that even be needed?
For case specifically, I'd like something as small as possible - if I can fit it into a 50x30x25cm space, I'll be overjoyed - but I don't know how much that's possible given that I have a fullsize ATX mobo.
Leo Brooks
>waiting for a thirty second loading screen on every door you go through rather than a three second one kys