Is it still worth learning?

Is it still worth learning?

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Yes

If i was newbie i would go to node/mongo boat.

But desu there are no right or wrong answers.

I mean, Facebook was built using php

Depends on what you wanna do.

PHP can do a toooon with very little effort, so it's great for hobby projects or being a solo freelancer.

It probably won't get you a hip "coding" job at the big glass building downtown, but there are plenty of jobs for laravel.

mysql yes
php no

...

Yes

>NSFW but not if you get the job
I never thought about that.

probably the first time a HN comment has actually made me laugh

>mongo
>no wrong answers

Mongo is always a wrong answer. I still haven't found a use case where either Redis, or a relational database wouldn't be better suited.

Everything is worth learning you dumb fuck so stop making this stupid threads and just do it

Just install Python. Use it to interact with SQLite databases, the libs are built into Python itself. Run a small Flask app with a few HTML templates. This is all you really need to pick up web dev skills.

>php
no drop that

Trying to setup a simple wiki for documentation practice.

Should I go with lamp or mean?

I'm a straight noob to this stuff so I'd like to start off on the right foot.

Absolutely. LAMP is an amazing starting point for 90% of projects out there.

There's nothing wrong using python for the p though.

Whats peoples problem with PHP on this board?
Is it because its too popular and widely used?

I dont even think there is a real competition besides python and ruby

If you seriously don't get it you shouldn't be here

What's the best version of SQL?

I'd use MariaDB nowadays

"Pythonistas" like to mock everything that isn't Python, such as Perl and PHP, even though they are completely fine languages.

Python
PostgreSQL

Python
PostgreSQL

sure thing, if you are developing for the web. you can make a decent living. dont expect to become a millionaire though. use other languages in pic related if that is your goal. the more scarce the language is the more valuable you become.

If you're a fast-paced quick-buck developer, then yes, they're perfect.

>W3Techs.com

alright, kiddo, go for PHP

83% of the web runs on php it still sucks aids

PHP devs ref w3techs on their own usage page.
>php.net/usage.php

(?, ?, ?, ?, ?) sql bindings highlight every reason PHP should not be used for a single thing, why hasnt another language taken over?

Of course they would, kek
nice catch

90% wordpress?

heh, probably... i never said they were good sites.

I've been teaching myself on a LAMP setup (with MariaDB instead of MySQL) but I'm ending up repeating my HTML on every page. Is there any way to use HTML templates/views without using a framework? I've only been writing functions so far so I think I'm missing some of PHP's OOP functionality.

ASP.NET's learning curve is too high for the average rent-a-coder, and any platform lacks substance.

yes, look into the include function.
>php.net/manual/en/function.include.php
use this to make things like headers, footers, whatever else is reusable...

There's this handy builtin in PHP called require:

secure.php.net/manual/en/function.require.php

includes , also , use google ,retard.

i prefer include to require for templating. require and require_once are good too tho.

see
never use include over require for obvious reasons...

>require function
>require is identical to include except upon failure it will also produce a fatal E_COMPILE_ERROR level error. In other words, it will halt the script whereas include only emits a warning (E_WARNING) which allows the script to continue.

have something fail, it all shows + scripting stops

for templating, one should not need to halt scripts.

>have something fail, it all shows + scripting stops
Yes, this is the kind of good behavior PHP doesn't normally give you, which is why require is a clear winner

Is there any way to use HTML templates/views without using a framework?

Templates/Views should not be logic based and were asked for so I supplied include function reference. I would nest require statements inside of the files that are "included" which SHOULD halt upon fail. I get your point though.

PDO can be used to form more robust prepared statement, the sintax is just like JPQL.

ASP.NET is garbage overly verbose and depends too much on XML, even JAVA has support for annotations so you don't have to fuck around with XML files.

>ASP.NET is garbage overly verbose and depends too much on XM

rekt

I'm asking about SQL.

Is it easy to make a back end with Perl?
Is there even a job market for Perl?

I know

I'd like an answer that's relevant to my question then.

Maybe
No

>t. pythonista kode artisan

My answer was relevant to your question. MariaDB implements SQL

My bad, I'm incredibly retarded. Sorry

Learn how to exploit it.

yes

PHP is terrible xD lol I use NodeJS and Mongo xD

No. Use the best web stack available: BCHC
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botnet uses it?

Using Mongo for everything is moronic, SQL is way better at relation data and it still is the most common form of data.

Mongo is fine for prototyping and running a local database (simpler alternative to sqlite).

ARYAN WAY TO WEB

Yes, it is.

Use dwoo with template inheritance

>I haven't used ASP.NET since 20xx

Kek.

php but using mariadb instead

Yes, though it will be write only.
There was on 1990s.

>ColdFusion 0.6%
that is a joke right?

>1990s
And now?