Is genders in languages dying out?

Is genders in languages dying out?

English has lost genders, Dutch is melting them.

>his language has genders

Really, who the fuck thought a language with genders would be a good idea?

i like how the kraut language has genders desu

I don't see how we could stop using them in french, litteraly anything has a gender.

>being french unironically

Some ancient guys in the West or Africa, since a lot of Asian languages don't have genders.

Is there any asian language with genders?

I want to keep them anyway, small minded Anglos think their language is hot shit until they try to learn another with genders

Hebrew and Hindi.

Must be the reason why anglos force "gender mainstreaming" on other people.
They dont even have a proper word for "woMAN"

>genders in language
>genders assigned to inanimate objects

Its impossible to remove genders from my language

What's the difference between red and dark blue? Both give an important role to genders in their languages.

Just use the masculine one for everything, maybe...

Also, what's with Basque?

Red has 2 genders, dark blue has 3 or more.

How the fuck can you have more than 3 genders? Jesus christ!
Or do you mean like the German plural and the Latin plurals?

That's mostly just yanks dragging the rest of the world into their cultural decline.

we can't. Words themselves are modified by genders. Speaking only with masculine would destroy the language.

For example, Czech and Slovak have Masculine animate, Masculine inanimate, Feminine and Neuter.

Polish have five genders, so its long way before they die.

>five genders
What are they?

>ovo jaje
lel
ovo in latin is egg
jaje in croatian is egg
ovo represents the neuter gender

Personal masculine, animate non-personal masculine, inanimate masculine, feminine, and neuter.

Alri kiwi like where is new zealand I cannot see it on a map like haha is it near straya maybe haha
We use the masculine form when something isn't clear, it's like the default one.

>genders in language
>mfw

Why no animate/inanimate/personal feminine?

t. siberian tribe language speaker

what is yellow?

Languages with genders, but you barely notice them.

Our language is not degenerate like English. Also this: .

A miserable little pile of secrets

languages with thee genders (male, feminine, neuter) merging into two (common and neuter) is wrong, you clearly notice gender in these languages.

genders aren't hard for us, we just see them as useless. cases are hard.

they're not genders but noun classes lads
often inherited str8 from indo-european

>useless
Their use is keeping foreigners from learning your language fluently.

No need for them. They would all follow the same rules.

>tfw no distinguishes between male and female correctly any more despite it being very easy
laziness will be the death of language
yeah but someone started calling them genders and so now its sexist and we should abolish them

Of course you notice them, but they're not as important compared to German, French of Spanish.

>we just see them as useless
Well, you still have articles and the most chaotic pronounciation system imaginable, so, yknow...

that's not my problem, english is supposedly 'retarder easy to learn' anyhow..

aside from that 9/10 people can't lose their accent so they'll never be fluent.

Anglo here who speaks a language with genders. It's literally nothing.

we probably see articles the same way you see genders, have you ever thought about it that way?

it seems like differences are ok unless it involves something anglo or american, then it is a very bad thing.

We never had neither gendered words or even gender specific pronouns. In fact we are using the "he/she" pronoun less and less in spoken language and will sooner or later only use "it" to refer to both things and people.

>accent
>fluency
U wot, mate? At least decide which accent is the one to be learned. Otherwise I'll continue to use my american-british-canadian-australlian-russian mixture, thank you bery much!

It's pretty important in Swedish. The fact that barnen is plural and not singular kind of matters.

Accent has nothing to do with fluency

>beard is feminine

Oh, well, I'm not Swedish. My bad.

>aside from that 9/10 people can't lose their accent so they'll never be fluent.
Exactly like 90% of all other people learning any other language.

>english is supposedly 'retarder easy to learn' anyhow..
Well, It's not. English can be very tricky, don't believe memes. I guess it's one of the easiest language to learn for European people, since it's a mix between Germanic languages and Latin (mostly).

No it isn't? And it is definitely not the criterium of the color yellow on the map. How would you measure importance of genders?

>girl is neuter

I think he thinks fluency means sounding native.

Yes, a lot. The problem is, while most of non-americans accept that we all are different in some ways, it happens more often than not that the US citizens lack some generally accepted common sense in that regard, which gets them a lot of hate.

But enough talk.

if i have to focus more than normal to understand your speech im not sure how you can be considered fluent

>being Australian unironically

Yeah, he probably is

In french, sword is feminine and vagina is masculine.

You guys do understand that linguistic gender does not have to do with biological gender? gender basically comes down to the fact that there are 2+ classes a noun can fit into. Some retard decided to call them masculin & feminine.

>un homme
>un femme
>un nation
>un mignonne

>US citizens lack some generally accepted common sense in that regard, which gets them a lot of hate.
This shit right here, I don't get it. I go abroad a lot, and people have these crazy ideas about Americans when they just simply aren't true, or at the very least are completely misconstrued into something negative.

A sizable minority of the rest of the world is just a bit obsessed with American people. Sorry but it's the truth.

Easily. If you've got some weird redneck accent and I speak perfect London English, it foesn't make you any less fluent in English.

Australians confirmed for not fluent.

Someone should tell him it has more to do with flowing easily.

except both of those accents are native english accents, and native english speakers dont have to strain to understand them. the only outlier here are scottish people.

>le femme
>le île
>le rivière
>le légume

We're simply annoyed by the huge ammount of Americans who lack any sense of how the world works, but try to force their standards or worldviews upon everyone else. Exceptions don't disprove the general tendency btw

not surprising when not paying attention to america is the fastest way to lose your country

So by your own logic scottish people are npt fluent in English, yes?

>le Vietnam
oh wait

You've never heard someone speaking day to day Australian. Or you're talking out your ass. There's plenty of moments whereby different vocabulary of pronunciation leads to needing to clarify.

And I'm a native English speaker for the record. PS. I left me rucksack in the boot.

Translate this without a moments uncertainty to American English.

How many Americans have you actually met?

I have noticed when some Americans are abroad, they'll go 'wow i can't believe you don't have x', but they don't mean anything bad by it. Some people get butthurt about that, because as I've said previously, some people are just obsessed with Americans and will read into anything enough to get mad at us.

>people have these crazy ideas about Americans when they just simply aren't true, or at the very least are completely misconstrued into something negative.
You can replace Americans with every other nationality and boom, you got stereotypes.

Weird af, senpai

Turkey is female too
Yes, the actual country

>he doesn't know that a chair is masculine and a door is feminine

>You can replace Americans with every other nationality and boom, you got stereotypes.
I completely agree with you, it's just that it happens exponentially more and almost always in a negative sense with us.

Uuuh actually they're both common gender.

I do hope we can agree that table is neuter though.

die Türkei right

God I hate genders.

We should just use "Der" for everything.

Der Tisch

About a dozen. How many americans did a talk to or read what they write online? A few hundreds. Travelling people are generally less idiotic in their ways of interaction, but, unfortunately, you don't have to travel to speak to an American.

>I left my backpack in the trunk
gib moniez now

>his language doesn't have vowel harmony

Taм нeт никaких дoкaзaтeльcтв тoгo, чтo poccийcкиe coлдaты были бoeвыe в Bocтoчнoй Укpaинe. Гдe дoкaзaтeльcтвo этoгo

No, it's just that you are too sensitive to the negative ones

>post that is in no way about the US
>american: Please talk about us!

No it doesn't, it is just that you are on the receiving end of US-directed banter. You never hear banter directed at turkey for instance, just because you don't live in turkey. Its a common cognitive bias.

HET

>No it doesn't, it is just that you are on the receiving end of US-directed banter
I can differentiate between banter and butthurt. Going to Portugal on Wednesday, ready for butthurt (mostly by Brits and Germans). Dutch people are cool 99% of the time.

>His language isn't of romance origins

In Estonian you can make words explicitly female by changing the ending to -tar, -nna, -ke

But it's used rarely. e.g. tema (him/her) temake (her)

i know but when you put it as masculine and feminine it becomes confusing

No it doesn't, it is just that you are on the receiving end of US-directed butthurt. You never hear butthurt directed at turkey for instance, just because you don't live in turkey. Its a common cognitive bias.

If you can read a whole page in a book without realizing the gender of the character it is pretty much a faggot-friendly plebeian non-language.

Genders in russian are
1.Much easier since you define gender by ending of the word.
2.Mostly make sense.
In the same time they don't even have a word for "she" in finnish.

>his language doesn't have genders
>his language doesn't have dual
>his language doesn't have declensions
That's not language, it's literally caveman-tier gargling.

>his language isn't THE international science language
>his language won't make him a shitload of money just by being able to speak it
>his language is filled with many inconsistencies within obtuse, worthless systems
>his language isn't the most information dense tongue ever created in the history of mankind
>he gloats about his language not having articles because "muh context" yet has extensive double person, double aspect, double preposition, double number, and triple negative

>his language isn't the most information dense tongue ever created in the history of mankind
ayyyyy lmao

8% faster than even vietnamese, efficient af