>General Always consider an SSD if you can afford one and buy an HDD later. If you want to use WiFi, you will need a Wireless Network Adapter. General rule of thumb is 2.4ghz or 5ghz.
>If you want help Assemble a part list: pcpartpicker.com/ Remember, we're not here to build a parts list for you, we're here to help you. If your part list has a monitor, list the monitor specs that you need. State your budget, currency, and usage scenarios. Learn how to build a PC: youtu.be/VhdV2wv3jQs
>CPUs A8-9600 - Absolute bare minimum gaymen, does not require a dedicated GPU. R5 1400 - Best with OCing & high-speed RAM. i5-8400 - Best value for gaymen R5 1600 - Best value for mixed uses R7, used Xeon, Threadripper, or 8700k - Heavy multi-tasking & mixed uses
>GPUs * Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up, using an old GPU or waiting to build may be a good idea right now. 1060 3GB - 1080p 60hz at medium/high settings, anything below this just buy an Optiplex and put this GPU or better in. 1060 6GB or RX 580 - 1080p 60hz at ultra settings, former supports G-Sync, latter supports Freesync 1070 - 1080p 144hz / 1440p 60hz at ultra settings 1080 TI - 1440p 144hz / 4k 60hz at ultra settings
>RAM * RAM costs so much because newer phones use DDR4 memory. Check your Mobo's QVL if your on a Ryzen platform Ryzen CPUs benefit a lot from high speed RAM, 3200MHz is ideal
Jow many seconds until the retard bitching about hz and fps comes in?
Luke Hernandez
zen2 leaks when?
Matthew Miller
>Check your Mobo's QVL if your on a Ryzen platform Is this shit really so important nowadays? I remember in the DDR1/DDR2 era this was a huge issue with Asus boards, but I can't find a reason why this should still be the case? Does anyone have sauce on this? I imagine if you just plug in some dimms from an A-brand manufacturer they should just werk.
Joseph Hall
Which z370 mobo for 8400 ?
Nathan Mitchell
>1 >4 >4
Isaac Smith
Literal-who ram will work but Ryzen is picky about it if you want the speeds which help a lot with its performance.
Charles Nelson
This
Wyatt Smith
Need a replacement cooler, the H7 I got for free isn't cutting it. Not interested in watercooling.
sorry i mean smallest atx case that actually fits stuff. Currently have a 300r and i think it has so much wasted space in it
Jaxon Russell
Seems like they've been doing it for a while, since radeonmemory.com/index.php haven't even updated with ddr4 sticks.
Andrew Evans
>A8-9600 - Absolute bare minimum gaymen, does not require a dedicated GPU. Absolutely not. If you want an APU, you need to wait for the Zen/Vega APU coming out early in 2018. If you want to play at 720p Low, go ahead and grab that A8.
The minimum CPU to pair with a dedicated GPU is the G4560/G4600
Wyatt King
Absolute bare minimum, and that's what that means. Price differences, platform differences, and upgrade paths also influence the value of a part.
Jacob Wilson
I wanna build a new server, but even if i use some cheap AM3 mobo and CPU ddr3 ram is about the same price as ddr4. What would you guys do in my situation? a ryzen 5 build would be about 200$ more for cpu and mobo, is it worth it?
Right now Im using a dell dual core and im pushing the limit for number of Hdd's in it. It also look like shit. Would like yo use a bitfenix nova TG case with some gaayyymen leds and such.
I don't know if it's really the smallest atx case in the world, but they cut out a lot of necessary shit like drive bays so it has a pretty small footprint and it doesn't appear to be any higher than it needs to be either. I don't know how you would make a smaller atx case without doing some weird trick with the psu. If you don't like the usual Fractal Design front panel it has they also released the Meshify C which is basically the same case with a open mesh front panel for airflow
Ian Moore
AMD shills BTFO. No point in telling them though, they'll just say "b-but y-you can just upgrade later!!!" when you just ended up wasting money and with the amount you spent on the AYYPOOYOU you could've just gotten a Coffee Lake.
Julian Bennett
When viewing spec comparisons on user benchmark, when it comes to video editing or gaming+streaming, which should I look more at, desktop or workstation?
Tyler Russell
Also, dell fans are loud as hell and built into the case. Dell MB's are not atx standard, fuck dell and prebuilt.
Jaxon Taylor
The cerberus-x seems to be coming out soon
Robert Jackson
>newer means better
Don't listen to this retard.
Mason Davis
Neither, really. Look at how well they perform in user-reviews since that can give you a real idea.
Alexander Evans
Try to explain yourself as opposed to just calling someone else a faggot. That's Sup Forums-tier posting. You're trying to help someone.
William Martinez
I'm not wrong; they cool better because Noctua has improved over time.
Parker Clark
Give me one good reason why i shouldnt build a R8+1080Ti+32gb ram system.
Protip: you cannot.
Blake Davis
Why?
Dylan Russell
Money? If that's not an issue then who cares
James Gonzalez
He had reasoning for the claim though, unlike you.
Jose White
Go for the 15S. 15 is probably their best air cooler, and the fact they made a smaller version for mid micro-atx cases is really neat. It does outperform the slightly older D14.
Matthew Johnson
stupid and probably pointless question, but just out of curiosity how far are their release dates apart?
Nathan Davis
In about five minutes.
Wyatt Martinez
>Noctua has improved over time
I wish they would improve the color scheme.
Noah Wood
Earliest review for the 14 is 2009; for the 15 it's 2014 They have, just not on their "dynamic" (don't know what to call it, the ones where the RPM can change the best) models.
Logan Lopez
It's called brand recognition
Blake Fisher
>14 is 2009; for the 15 it's 2014
holy shit
Zachary Wood
hey a logo works too
people just put up with it because they do indeed make the best air coolers
David Sanders
>tfw NH-D15 with both 140mm fans on a 65W CPU
For reference the ambient temperature is 23.3C.
Luis James
But it is included in the OP.
Ayden Baker
It is in there you illiterate retard
Julian Rogers
>R7, used Xeon, Threadripper, or 8700k - Heavy multi-tasking & mixed uses hmmmm
Cooper Garcia
Even if 1700 doesn't need that much cooling power it's still really nice for lower noise levels.
Austin Foster
its not even that bad, not everything has to be red and black with rgb.
looks nice though
they still revise some models like the tr4 models and s models but theyre basically at the peak of current and future performance
Dominic Peterson
Is it a good idea to wait a little to build a PC at this moment? I'm trying to do a Ryzen 1600 and RX 580 build, and it's likely that it's going to cost a bit less if i wait, right? How long of a wait would be your suggestion?
Christian Sullivan
Don't get me wrong, I like the color scheme, it makes me feel nostalgic for some reason, it just sticks out like a sore thumb.
Gavin Gonzalez
until the bubble that is crypto pops
Adrian Reed
Black Friday is like a month away.
Carson Gonzalez
Is 190-200 € a good deal for a used 970? I have a shitty 270 and want to upgrade, but as you know this might not be the best time to buy new might be able to snipe one for less on ebay but most end up at this price point i have a 4430 i5
Jacob Stewart
>pops Could go either way my friend. I just want a computer
I live in eastern europe nobody does that shit here
William Powell
It's in one of those nice heavy padded Fractal cases too. The loudest thing in there is that cheapshit 1050 Ti, but that thing isn't getting upgraded until the GPU market stops being fucked.
Hunter Watson
send help
Jack Rivera
the term is PWM
Dominic Sanders
i got bad news user...
Gabriel Butler
The A8-9600 is absolute fucking trash and buying it "so I can upgrade to Ryzen later" makes as much sense as buying a 7640X so that you can upgrade later. Except you'd actually have a competent system with a 7640X and not a pile of absolute fucking trash based on an architecture which wasn't even good when it came out.
Even Steve from Hardware Unboxed, the guy who shills Ryzen more than any other tech reviewer, absolutely shit on it and told people that's it's not worth buying under literally any circumstance.
You got absolutely blown the fuck out the other day when you tried recommending it in this thread, so have resorted to hijacking the OP to try and mislead people now. Pity nobody actually follows any of the advice there and just asks, so will find out the truth anyway.
Lucas Gray
DELET!!!11!!1!!!
Gavin Foster
not if you get a brown motherboard. speaking of which, i havent seen a green consumer motherboard in ages. theyre all brown as the default now, and then black/ white for the higher end ones
Wyatt Howard
I bought a computer HD, is it possible to work on a notebook?
I don't need a screen or a hardrive since I can recycle them from my old broken computer. The use I'm going to give its some gaming mixed with work.
David Wood
Only if you have enough giga rams
Isaiah Young
970
Nathan Robinson
Are you on stock cooler or something?
Owen Morris
Ignore kepler - it has died like a bitch. Even though LOL 970 it is the best option of those. Though if you can find a hawaii based card for similar money i'd prefer that myself.
Jason Ross
it recommends shitty APU and r5 1400 so no it's not
Jace Campbell
1600 stock cooler if your not gonna oc b350 mobo 3200 ram a case that isn't literally who
Anthony Lopez
Currently using a 970 for gaming, but it's no longer able to play modern games at max settings reliably anymore. What the fuck can I upgrade to at this point? Everything that would be an actual upgrade and not just a couple of frames difference seems like it costs $500 thanks to cryptocrap
Mason Russell
...
Jayden Sullivan
why do people hate the 9800 so much what enrages intel shills so much about the apu it works fine for sub 500$ gaymen builds
Hunter Hall
More than that: some of them have control, but it isn't as good.
Jacob Richardson
If you're getting a non-K sku shouldn't you wait until cheaper chipset boards are released?
The only experience I've had with alibaba was never getting my purchase. Check the chink shit general, they might know better.
They aren't in stock and retailing for $500 USD last I heard. I can't advise the purchase at that price when a $300 USD R7 1700 is just behind it in most uses aside from >100 fps gaming.
Anyone looking at that case should get the new version with better airflow, Meshify C.
They've admitted they've stagnated and have had difficulty finding more ways to optimize heatsink design. Really the performance difference just comes down to greater surface area/mass.
All depends how eager you are. Personally I'm waiting for Zen 2 at the end of this year. I'm sure 1600 will drop in price after that but unless the cryptocurrency bubble pops, expect Polaris and Vega cards to remain overpriced.
I heard initially that Ethereum would change its mining algorithm eventually that would favor ASICs but now I'm hearing Ethereum is intentionally ASIC resistant and GPUs are preferred regardless because miners don't have to stick to a single currency. So I don't see the price dropping unless miner-designed cards become popular splitting the market.
Asher Parker
>suggests 970 >cherry picked
Parker Ramirez
most likely on stock not delid and playing something while taking that shot
Jordan Bailey
>doesn't remove all trace of intel >highlights ryzen is gud at multitask looks good
Jaxon Wright
The 970 or 770 are both priced well. For CS:GO, Overwatch, LoL the 770 would be fine, but for modern titles definitely the 970. 780 absolutely not worth another $40.