If you want help: >State the budget & currency for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >i3 8100 - Better budget CPU; extra cost of the currently available Z mobos lessens the value of the CPU >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Check your Mobo's QVL before buying RAM or look for user reports >Ryzen CPUs benefit a lot from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal
GPUs: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070 / 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 4K >GTX 1080Ti
General: >Consider a 240GB or larger SSD. >Consider a Wireless Network Adapter, either 2.4 or 5GHz
Is the 1070ti really gonna be the THING? >streaming Who the fuck does this? Why?
Kayden Phillips
$$$
Easton Reed
Good evening Sup Forumsents, I recently visited my parents and found my old desktop PC from 2010 was still in use. I thought it would be fun to upgrade it for as little money as possible, but was struggling to find a 2nd hand parts website that gave good pricing for obsolete components aside from eBay. I was thinking of upgrading the bad boy in pic related with an extra 4GB of DDR2 RAM, a spare 2TB HDD I had lying around and possibly a new CPU/Mobo/GPU if I had enough cash left over. Cex USA seems to be largely out of stock for DDR2 Ram and so I was hoping someone here would be able to suggest a good way to pick up old parts for cheap. Any tips? I checked Craigslist but didn't see much in the way of good deals
Thomas Cruz
Nobody on Sup Forums is a monetized streamer.
Carter Miller
Convince me to buy a 8700k over a 8600k. >$100 for 2fps
All my VM's are on my server so the extra hyperthreaded "cores" won't do anything for me. Games still aren't taking advantage of more cores, let alone more threads.
i5 2500k --> i5 4670k --> i5 8600k
Lincoln Ward
you're probably wrong. monetized streaming is easy.
Brody Campbell
ryzen > coffee lake
Ayden Gomez
This kid has a better rig than you. Explain yourself.
Lucas Carter
>all poozen
Charles Allen
>open air case I'm ok.
Eli Torres
>4ghz wall >IPC No thanks bruh.
Landon Myers
Watercooling a 1060? I know it isn't necessary but I kinda just want to for shits and giggles.
Will the 1070 ti's fit the same bracket as 1070's?
Jack White
Get x5460 Set fsb to 444 Vcore to 1.3725v dram multiplier to 5:6 Enjoy.
Dominic Anderson
>first build lacks an SSD >third has a CPU that's good for rendering only
Liam Davis
>poozen There he goes again, isn't he just the funniest shill around.
Matthew Johnson
will graphics cards eventually go the way of the dinosaur like sound cards?
Angel Flores
Is it worth it right now to shell out the extra cash for a 1070. or is a 1060 6gb enough? I'm looking to do 1080p gaming, ultra settings 60fps
Matthew Hughes
Don't bother with Ultra: use High. Yes, 1060 is enough
Not sure what card to get since I'm probably not doing anything more intensive than PUBG-tier games.
Also stuck on monitors; I'd like one to be for graphic design (IPS) and the other for gaming (TN), and I can't see myself putting mid-$1k down to get two 144 Hz IPS monitors.
Xavier Lee
Not for a while
Adrian Sanchez
Swap to i5 8400 then come back for advice
Grayson Robinson
All my local stores are out of Coffee Lake processors. Don't see any 8400s available online.
Xavier Nguyen
Well, then what about the R5 1600?
Easton Sullivan
au.pcpartpicker.com/list/P4YWHN Changed the case for quiet gayman build. >change the monitor its a placeholder really, I'm undecided. I do want 1440p/144hz though
Ian Flores
Fair enough, I haven't researched Ryzen enough to make a judgment and went with a comfort pick in Intel. Price seems well-worth the performance in that chip.
Liam Rogers
>4k meme games are made for 1080p. it will just show you how ugly the models and textures are
Christian Carter
so soon i will be ditching hdmi mud tier race and joining display port god race what can i expect?
Why the downgrade to 1070? I was originally going to go with that + 1440/60hz but I thought I'd spoil myself and go to 144hz
Blake Cox
1070 can do 60hz. 1080 can do 144. go with the equivalent 1080 from msi if u want 144
Chase Martin
4K KEK CONFIRMED!
Parker Hill
i literally run two 60 hz 1080p monitors but i can tell you from my experiments in downscaling that what you said is not true
Jaxon Moore
Why msi specifically? Does it run significantly cooler/quieter?
Carter Walker
no, he's an msi shill. always go with evga as they have the best customer support and will replace shit even without a warranty.
Evan Lewis
Aye pal that's why I had evga there already on gpu and psu. Good experience with them
Adrian Stewart
>G4560/G4600 lol
Samuel Russell
msi is budget tier garbage mascarading as professional level shit
Dylan Flores
yup
William Scott
Higher bandwidth and a cable lock
Jaxson Rodriguez
so what about the 144hz compatability?
Isaiah Johnson
Yeah that too just make sure that it is DP 1.4
Kevin Collins
Anyone getting a 0x20017 error when trying to update? I've tried everything except for a clean install (I'm lazy af) but no luck.
Am I fucked?
Ryan Jackson
Should I do it?
Ryan Russell
What's a good size for a SSD that will only contain a Linux distro + any applications?
Wyatt Barnes
Yeah nah aye haha nah mate not galax
Tyler Parker
Is there any reason for me to go above a 1600X if I'm doing mostly gaming and audio production? And if I'm switching from Intel to AMD how many programs are going to require a reinstall because of the CPU change?
Juan Wright
monitor page says ita 1.2 but then yhe questions section says 144hz work with display port so im not even sure whats going on
Blake Smith
aww strooth mate
why not
Aiden Murphy
Yeah 1.2 works, too. But if your monitor had 1.4 then that would be better
Asher Nguyen
hwre is the monitor in question i plan on getting two of them
nope, and go with the 1600. same chips, but the 1600 comes with a cooler and is cheaper.
Adrian Carter
Would a Hyper 212 fit? Is not I'll go with the 1600
Charles Rivera
sorry mate was having dinner and couldn't write a proper response. The galax version is 669 on pcpartpicker. I don't know the brand in all honesty but I feel like they must be cutting corners to be $20 over the 1070s here (despite 1070 prices being a joke). Have a look online at issues and reviews of that specific card and decide if you think its a good idea.
Juan Clark
i need a single slot gpu that supports 4k output on 3 screens. the cheapest option I've found so far is a radeon pro wx2100, is there a cheaper option?
Brody Gomez
logicalincrements is trustable right? Trying for the entry build
Ian Robinson
what are the chances black friday i can get a gtx 1070 or a 1080 for $300?
Jeremiah Parker
most people on Sup Forums trust it yes
Parker Roberts
are the example builds up to date?
Matthew Smith
>1080 >300 smackaroos not a chance in hell or heaven above
Carter Jenkins
Am I going to be hearing a 3.5" inside noise cancelling cases like the 300R?
Grayson Fisher
seem fine to me but you can get ram cheaper
Bentley Nelson
There was a 500+ thread filled with shitposting on another board, so I'll ask here. Is the 1060 3GB as shit as people say with how little vram it has?
Luis Hernandez
Using Reaper with a 1600 here, works like a charm.
>And if I'm switching from Intel to AMD how many programs are going to require a reinstall because of the CPU change?
Maybe some VSTs for activation purposes?
Nathaniel Anderson
>There was a 500+ thread filled with shitposting on another board Sup Forums?
Mason James
It's a good place to use if you have a very strict budget and you don't care about getting the best bang for your buck.
For example no one here would recommend the 1400 when you could get the 1600 for a little more and a whole lot more performance.
For best results, post your build here when it's done so people can pick it apart to make sure you aren't buying shit.
Justin Walker
120 would be fine for most desktop uses.
Jayden Peterson
>1080ti sli >minecraft
capitalism isnt the problem
Robert Rodriguez
the 212 evo will fit.
Ian Nguyen
Can confirm 120 will be good. I use a 120 and it's a bit small with windows and video games, but if you don't bother with those 120 will be just fine.
Michael Brown
Kind of, it's had problems recently with gpu prices for example. It's a giod starting point. Make a build on pcpartpicker, post it here with your budget and usage (and screen resolution and refresh rate if you play video games), and we will tell you why you're a retard and your build is shit.
Xavier Ortiz
The vram is a problem, but you can work around it by tweaking settings (texture quality mostly). But it also has less processing units than the normal 1060, so it's slower overall. At normal prices, it's a shit card. Since prices are still all over the place, it might be acceptable, but favour a 1060 6GB or a 580 if it's not a huge price difference.
looks good people hate on msi and asrock boards but personally never had a problem with either
Connor Ramirez
Should I just buy all the parts now? Or wait until black friday sales? I have no PC and getting bored. I already missed out on a sweet £200 deal on a 6GB 1060 because I wanted to wait for the sales, is it worth waiting?
Joshua Lee
I intend to upgrade my core hardware (mobo, GPU, CPU, RAM), however I have a bit of hesitation (it might be stupid, but better to ask before regretting something).
I have a configuration where I work on Linux, and have a gaming Windows VM set up. In that case, which CPU brand would be the better option, since Intel works better on gaems, and AMD works better on multi-threaded apps like VMs?
Josiah Brown
The savings is probably not worth waiting unless you plan on buying a big ssd and are looking for a good deal that you normally couldnt afford
Jose Stewart
Are you doing pass through GPU? Someone more knowledge can probably answer but in general the 8400 seems like a nice compromise of threads and gaming performance
Julian Lee
I am waiting for new AMD APU because i am a cheapstake who play in 720P low setting at ~30FPS
Bentley Murphy
>y-you can't buy it
AMD pajeets on suicide watch.
Jonathan Morales
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Brayden Garcia
What's the lowest watt AMD CPU and also AMD GPU I can get that isn't way too outdated?
Not sure if this is an appropriate general, but are there any low-power dual-band wireless routers out there?
Gavin Hughes
What do you guys think of these cards? I like the idea of pre blocked cards and the aesthetic is quite nice.
Also 8700k, does it reign supreme right now? I know you gotta delid them but still, after that what else is there to it?
Isaiah Martinez
Do you live off solar power or something?
Nicholas Morgan
No, I am just not an entitled americunt who thinks it's okay to destroy the environment
Anyone have experience with this board? Can it overclock?
Nathan Parker
just about everything you do taxes the environment - why don't you kill yourself?
Lucas Martin
Hahahahaha
Daniel Jackson
You know it. Alright. The 6GB version is a bit out of my price range thanks to inflated prices, though.
Sebastian Rodriguez
Right on bro! reward yourself with some avo-on-toast today Don't forget - the fats are healthy
Lucas Murphy
Where to get a 1060 6GB for £200? Its not worth paying over £230, no matter what inflated prices may say.
Dylan Brown
>aesthetics IDK man, what is that logo even supposed to be? It looks to me like a bird with a really buff arm getting ready to punch someone. Looks dumb to me.
Hunter Morgan
>telling him to buy a card that can't even run years-old games like the Witcher 3 on max settings at 60fps user, I...
