Okay, int, memes aside:

Okay, int, memes aside:
How much Muslims are integrated in your country? What are the trends? How secular are they? How do they interact with other immigrants and locals? How many women and men wearing traditional clothes?

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As much as I took from wiki:
75% of ethnic Muslims in France call themselves believers
40% keeps fasts
20% visits mosque every Friday

What about other countries?

Also when reading right wing sites, they all claim Muslims are not integrated at all. When reading left wing sites, they say the opposite, that number of secular Muslims is growing, number of lgbt Muslims is also growing etc. When I tried to listen to Muslim preachers on YouTube to figure out view from the inside they all were like "LE LUST EVERYWHERE, TEENAGE PREGNANCIES, ALL THE YOUNG ARABS SMOKE WEED" etc.

Londoner here. Fair few Muslims in the city so I'll give you my impression.

Most seem integrated with the British way of life. There are some communities which don't integrate and are more religious. These are the places where the problem Muslims come from, because they are more vulnerable to extremists preachers and radicalisation etc.

I would approximate the men and women wearing traditional clothes, e.g. the headscarf, as being equal with the ones who don't. I know of several people who call themselves "Muslims" but drink, eat pork and so on. There are plenty of others who take their religion seriously though.

IMO the best way to combat the Islamist problem in the UK is not to let insular communities form, places which are mostly Muslim with hardly anyone else. In areas where there are some Muslims living alongside a majority of others from different backgrounds there are no problems.

Finally, the country of origin also matters. Pakistanis tend to be less educated/poorer and therefore more religious. The Muslims from other places like Malaysia, Brunei, even India are much more moderate

Btw I agree. The worst thing is ghetto. In USSR problem nationalities were often settled as 1-2 family per town among other nationalities (Meskkhetin Turks for example).
>as being equal with the ones who don't
What's the point in wearing headscarf if you're not religious?

Don't you think that Muslims are the new Jews of Europe? Of course Muslims are way less closed religion, but still. Jews formed ghettos and had difficult relations with locals while most of Jews lived usual life outside of ghettos like a locals.

We actually have about 2.5 million muslims

>In USSR problem nationalities were often settled as 1-2 family per town among other nationalities (Meskkhetin Turks for example).

We are doing a similar thing with Syria refugees. We're not taking in many, but they're widely distributed all over the country. In fact some of them that the government settled in desolate, isolated parts of north Scotland have complained that the weather is so miserable and want to go back home. Haha.

>What's the point in wearing headscarf if you're not religious?
Well exactly, but the ones who aren't religious still call themselves "Muslims". It's similar to how British people who don't go to church or take the Bible seriously call themselves "Christians". More of a cultural thing than religious.

>Don't you think that Muslims are the new Jews of Europe?
Hmm. A subset of Muslims behave in that way, yes. But not Muslims in general. There's so much variation. E.g. Albanian, Arab, Malaysian and Pakistani Muslims are all pretty different so you can't generalise like that.

But some Muslims are certainly as closed as the Orthodox Jews.

I lived in london for about 15 years. I like their contribution to cuisine. when i was there it seems like most of the kids were turning atheist. all you need to do is convince them to drink ONCE and they will slowly decline int a degenerate just like you and I (not a bad thing).
who runs brook lane now? I remember when I left it was the jews enclave, but before it was a turkish area

>who runs brook lane now?

Brook Lane in SE3? No idea, haven't been to that part of London in forever.

fucking phone auto correct, i mean't brick lane

Brick Lane has been Bangladeshi for a very long time. It's famous for the curry restaurants etc. But in recent years the Bangladeshis have started to be displaced by native young hipster Brits. There is considerable gentrification happening in central east London around Brick Lane, Shoreditch, Hoxton etc.

Basically it's white people moving in from other parts of the country and wealthy students/professionals from abroad

Many of them are Albanians, Bosnians, Kosovars, etc., usually they don't practice their religion
The only three major muslim communities are Moroccans, Egyptians and Bengalis, they are moderate and usually integrated

I mean, headscarf is uncomfortable, so wearing it would be strange for a not really religious person.

But the rent in London is still improbably high as far as I know.

>But the rent in London is still improbably high as far as I know.

Yes, it is :(

Well, actually Italians, at least southern, don't differ from Arabs that much, you share same Mediterranean culture with many Arab people so no wonder they integrate fast in Italy.

russia wins

Russia pls

I was asking about Europe but I can answer to you about Muslims in Russia if you're interested.

in the first chechen war they almost won. do you think karyrov has a shot for the russian presidency, and after putins death turn the country into a caliphate?

Guy from Madrid here.

It depends. I know Muslim women who go to my university. Both with and without headscarf. Morocans are pretty ok although they are pretty usually into drugs, robberies and illegal stuff in general. I also know a few of them who are pretty ok people.

Other kinds of muslims are way less numerous but for example Hindus are generally very hard-working, and manage to integrate and create income. Many morocans as well do this.

Tunisians are also kind of numerous, but it depends on the person. Youngsters are generally pretty western (Drink, do weed, fuck a lot)...etc, as well as morocan youngsters.

It's also true that the places were they are more numerous are the ones in which there are more problems with them (There's been several police raids against yihadist groups in Catalonia).

>Hindus
But Hindu people are not Muslims, or do you mean Indian Muslims?
>Kadyrov presidency
No chances, people have bad attitude towards Chechens. Also Kadyrov is more a Chechen nationalist, not an Islamists. In second war Chechens splitter on nationalists and Islamists, they had furious infighting, than Islamists went full retard and invaded Dagestan so Russia responded and nationalists joined federal forces. Also Chechens don't cause many problems now, and Chechnya is a very safe place. Many Russian nationalists like Kadyrov and say Russian nationalists should be to Russians like Kadyrov to Chechens. I personally respect Kadyrov for physical removing of salafi scum from Chechnya. Dagestan is the most problematic region now because it's highly corrupted and very poor, and comprises nearly 50 different nationalities who have pretty complex relationships with each other.

I meant indian muslims

brick lane is hipster central

Hipster grills are okay though. Especially black hipster girls, really turning on.

Most of the Shiite, Berber and Levantine integrated fine.
We have a problem with Maghrebins tho.

We have Tatars in the East, they've been assimilated for centuries, also some random churkas

>Morocans are pretty ok although they are pretty usually into drugs, robberies and illegal stuff in general.

How in hell is that being "pretty ok"???

t.Hortefeux

Tatars are very well integrated, no problems with them
Kebab shop owners/workers are ok too. The ones which are not ok do not have costumers.
Students are mostly ok. Women are usually scared and unapproachable. The worst encounter with muslim students I had were Saudis, they are huge dicks and are here usually to party, drink alcohol, do drugs and hire escorts etc. Studies are their alibi for restrictive parents. But that's how imagined them anyway.
The rest which are some foreign employees are usually single cases so it is hard to draw any conclusions.

80% of them are T*rks who open kebab restaurants and ocasionally pick fights with niggers.
So 8/10, would invite again

t. Satoshi ibn Abe

Non. Crimean Tatars were the only Muslim here. Now the biggest Muslim community are Azeris. But they are only a few tens of thousands. And they are absolutely not religious

t. Hunter Ali ibn Clancy Achmed

Kebabs seemingly really dont have any other special skills except making kebab lel

what's the difference between berber and meghrebine, culturally and religiously?

When i say maghrebins Im talking about Arabs in Maghreb although it isnt really the right word for it.

Not European but I'll post.

They seem to be very educated and integrated around here. They also seem to be very wealthy and work very high-paying jobs, I imagine most of the families I do know came during the 70s, 80s, and 90s, so they've been here long enough to integrate just fine. Can't say they're assholes either, most of the time they just seem like normal Americans, beats me. Worried a bit about future influxes of the same uneducated welfare reapers that have been flooding Europe.

I haven't really met any "uneducated" Muslims before, I'm going to Europe in a few days, what should I expect? Am I in for a shock? Are the memes about them being the version of our niggers true?

>Very few
>High birth rates
>Not secular at all
>Some kids become normal, butt most seem to be very involved in their mosque, which is muslim brotherhood members
>Not many wearing traditional clothes I think

but*****

Mate moroccans are the fucking worst, they are generally the most problematic muslims and the most intransigent ones as well.

Where in Europe are you going? I've heard about altercations with refugees in major cities at night time around here, but nothing ever happened to any male friends of mine, even alone.

Don't believe Sup Forums, but do avoid the immediate areas surrounding refugee centers. They're often frustrated with the status of their asylum applications etc

They aren't at all and guess what, the children and grandchildren born in France are even less integrated.

You forget one thing.
1. Their muzzies aren't immigrants
2. Their population is stable
3. Tatars > Churkas > Maghrebis

>integrated
What does this popular buzzword even mean? Pakis marry their cousins. Turks will kill you if you marry a Turkish woman from their family. How can you create the proverbial (yet another buzzword) "melting pot" when the communities are segregated at this basic level?

i'd say rougly ~0%
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That's our prime minister after emerging from his cave.

Scotland here, I don't know I've never seen a Muslim in real life

From what year is that map?

In Spain there are currently more than 2 millions muslims.

in my area there are very few muslims, but I don't have any real complaint about them as a whole. The turks, albanians and iranians are 100% americanized, and even the arabs have struck some kind of balance (i.e. smoking weed with a hijab). Haven't met any other muslims of another nationality.

Muslim turks make up around 8 percent of the population here and they are extremely secular. They will drink alcohol and no women wear headscarves. They are well integrated and besides from a few annoying irredentist politicians in the ethnic turkish party they dont really harbour much loyalty or nationalism for turkey.

I would say:
turks =
70% well inegrated
10% assimilated
20% nigger tier free to be gassed