>tried VR today for the first time in about a year to look at VR porn and The Walking Dead VR
>hard and annoying on the neck to keep looking around while I was seated and trying to relax and the things not being filmed had no purpose
Is this tech, dare I say, dead?
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No, it was never alive in the first place
>spend 1000+ of our great European currency.
>to play 10 bad demos of witch 4 are god enough to show of to my friends for 5 min each.
>could have save some greek habor from the chinees with all the money blown into this shit,
>may thats the chneese master plan, sell us cheep pastic smartphone cases and but our habors form the profit..
the experience is great, but I can't picture myself wearing it for long hours as I do on my chair.
bottom line, its a meme that normies buy in to. it ain't dead but it ain't ready yet.
Quit being a necklet then. Do some basic neck workouts and you won't have any problems.
UHHH EIN DEUTSCHERRR
wat did you mean by this
>VR
>Sitting down
Yeah there's your problem...
What did you mean
You're not supposed to have it hooked up all day.
It's probably better for your mental health that you don't.
I got mine yesterday, and the experience was fucking way better than anything I could have imagined. I was quite blown away by how realistic and immersive it was.
If they manage to get rid of the screen door effect and bump it up to 4k, It'll damn near mimic reality.
Neck workouts?
How fucking unhealthy are some of these anons? I can wear mine 4 hours without any aches or pains what so ever.
Also, the VR porn for Honey Select was awesome. It's hard to describe, but there's 2 types of boners. Your '2D' boner, which is what you get when looking at regular old porn, and your '3D' boner, which is what you get when you're turned on by looking at something IRL. My boner felt 3D.
Also, VR porn with lolis.
JESUS
>Also, the VR porn for Honey Select was awesome. It's hard to describe, but there's 2 types of boners. Your '2D' boner, which is what you get when looking at regular old porn, and your '3D' boner, which is what you get when you're turned on by looking at something IRL. My boner felt 3D.
the absolute state of Sup Forums
Devs want that normie dollar, and they will most likely get it. It just doesn't quite have a normie price tag yet.
the problem isnt the pricetag, but the spec requirements to run it. most normies dont have a GTX 1070+ and a beefed up desktop to run it.
When the 4k headset is out(2k in each lens), it'll be even higher. You'll probably need a 1080 or Titan Xp to run it, and that's like less than 10% of gamers.
I’ve been saying this for years.
Repeat after me
>VR is DOA
>VR is a gimmick
>Facebook invested billions in it
>Sony got in on it
>Valve got in on it
>99% users who bought it said it was a 10/10 experience and dont regret the purchase
>DOA
Nope.
>Gimmick
A very game-changing gimmick. The only issue I have with it aside from the obvious hardware limitations is movement. The virtuix omni tries to solve this with the walking pad, but from user reviews, it doesnt feel as natural and its huge.
If they could pull off proper locomotion, then that'd eliminate the space requirement entirely.
Even if they pulled this off, you'll see get those fat guys who've never jogged in their life complaining about having to actually use their muscles to play games.
Actually the Virtualizer seems to solve all of that.
It feels natural because the surface is flat.
You can use your own shoes so it's user friendly
It's not huge
It doesn't look silly.
You can also sit in it.
It's cheap($600).
However I don't think consumers can buy it yet.
Hopefully it'll be ready when the Vive 2 releases in 2018
jeus.
You retarded? Who the fuck buys a VR system and uses it while sitting down? It's fucking pointless you stupid bitch.
Look up games where you can walk around in 3d and interact with the environment. That's real VR, not this "I'm a fucking fatass that sits down for VR".
The first few days I used VR, my muscles ached cause I used to be a lard ass like you. It's literal exercise when you play something like. Robo recall, fcking grabbing robots by the face and ripping their limbs off to maim other robots with and smashing their bodies into the ground.
I too would like VR lolis, but I don't like Honey Select's shader.
This will still cause motion sickness since your inner ear isn't being stimulated. Plus you lose a lot of mobility with your legs. The ideal set up would be some type of free standing exoskeleton.
I don't even work out and my neck never hurt from this Vive set
The only problem i currently have is that text up close is real fuckin blurry
I really enjoy playing games with it especially those that work coop. had some great times with a friend while we laughed at the weird glitches that happen to player models.
No. It gets pretty scary. I helped write part of a script for a project titled BunnyDor Rom. However thats just the software not the technology. Virtual Reality tech is more suitable with a brace around the neck. Shuts off majority of your nerves and deciphers it. Then it takes your vision you begin at a black. It calculates the order of your signals and regurgitates it back according to the software layout and story. Its called BunnyDor because it progresses with a door that opens a new loop. And another door that opens another loop. The rabbit hole. Until you are in a lake. From the lake there is a calm. The purpose of the story is in the lake. You start regurgitating.
My nigga
BunnyDoor Rom.
I however dont like any VR. Early forms of VR not for commercial use dries your tearducts. So they have to give you water. Both to drink and moisten ducts. Parts that need fluids.
The govt is keeping VR from evolving because its already evolved. So dont expect it to become commercial. Because they got hit with human rights lawsuits. In order to save money they used to place criminals facing more than theyd live in solitary confinements that were like ovens with water. You could easily store 8 people in a 10x12 room of space. Only time they got up was to move to take a shower.
It happened to so many revolutionaries across America. Until several doctors escaped exposing US for what they are. Some of the victims purportedly were young men (some as young as 12) of foreign wealth. Good to do families that were injured by Americans (whites) and the Govt didnt want to look bad. No accountability. Since they didnt want to put them in a public hospital setting theyd put them in a max security facility.
What the fuck are you talking about
something something, fucking white people
It happened to a lot of drug smugglers and illegals. They say its govt responsibility. However it happened to a lot of the members of guerilla group organizations enemies. Friends were white supremacists. Lets say you are fighting over land. You are in the estate and someone else is as well. They would send your picture and say you committed crimes and are tied to a guerilla group. It happened to a lot to eastern europeans (turkics). Thats why they never went back. Out of fear so their lands were repossessed. They say there is a small village there. The most beautiful village in the region called something like sweet oven or something. In their language. In testimony of their dead.
>My boner felt 3D.
That's how your anatomy works, son.
Racing and flight sims are the only reason I am interested in creating and that are both sit down activities.
>creating
VR. Dumb phone poster
So Prussian doctors after they were hunted left to israel. They spilled the beans. Supposedly ultra orthodox women are part of an experiment. Because they are penitents. That means they have babies outside of their marriage as there are no dna test clause weddings. Those in the experiment throw themselves at a guy she likes for a quick fuck and her hubby has to raise the baby due to racist lawsuits.
Because their prussian dad started. They are technically on the run but have legal protection.
the schizo board is over there
Serious man supposedly when you vote in a president or an executive u vote in a secret-ary.
So when you slip into psychoses im your secretary.
>normies
Oh the irony.
>Who the fuck buys a VR system and uses it while sitting down?
Room scale VR is a meme. Seated VR experiences is the future of VR.
i just don't think it's found it's niche yet. vr is already quite immersive, but the thing about it is that it doesn't work well with the majority of popular game genres right now. that's not really a problem though. for example, there are plenty of popular genres where a proper 3D perspective would be unusual (strategy, VNs, rpgs... i'm not just talking faux-retro indie shit). 3D rendering didn't replace these genres, it helped to create new ones in parallel: FPS, action-adventure, 3D platformer.
my point is that nobody has any idea what the archetypal "vr game" looks like yet. but in order to figure that out, vr has to be adopted outside of the current crop of unimaginative early adopters who are just trying to slap the "vr" label on things to sell units.
it's encouraging to see that as the price goes down, more hobbyists and independent developers are playing with the technology. i think that's going to be the key in the long run. it'll probably start off with a kind of demoscene consisting of people swapping largely non-interactive experimental "games" until somebody hits upon an idea that plays to vr's strengths well enough to justify it to a wider audience. i've already seen some cool experiments mixing vr environments with social interaction, so i can't imagine this is all very far off.
>I am too weak to look around
also, don't overlook phone vr. it's not as exciting as the real thing, but as soon as some critical mass has been coaxed into buying the current generation of smart phones, i'm sure it's going to blow up. maybe phone vr will just end up being a fad, but i definitely don't think we're anywhere close to the high water mark yet.
Room scale is fun, but there are very few things where it's worthwhile to play.
sims.
The only real reason I want vr for games is raceing games, flight sims or even arcade style sims, fucking planet coaster and ride the rides.
There are very VERY few games that don't gimmick the fuck out of room scale
There are 3 issues
1) shit is to expensive to get for games alone
2) shit is not able to focus to be a monitor replacement. its not even about resolution, its about being able to read text and resolution wont fix this.
3) the resolution on current models are to low for just media viewer and allowing 1:1 ratios for 1080p
keep in mind, the displays in these things can be oleds, so you get better displays here then you get for actual fucking monitors and the cheapest non cellphone/vr oled is around 2000$
There are many uses but they priced themselves out of games and qualities themselves out of monitor replacement while penny pinching themselves out of resolution/media viewer territory.
new generations of this will fix issues, because honestly this is the future for many technologies, but we are in the growing pains era.
I was in a VR arcade the other day.
It's perfect for FPS shooters.
Game was made in unity and sucked major balls, but just the feeling of being IN was....mind blowing...
>strategy
I imagine some strategy games could work.
>game sets you in a briefing room
>player is in first person perspective of a commander
>select troops on a map set out on table
>give commands
>watch as scale tanks and soldiers actually move around and fight on the table.
>1) shit is to expensive to get for games alone
Not if you see it as a 'console' for PC.
>2) shit is not able to focus to be a monitor replacemen
Of course not.
This'll never happen because wearing it for too long will hurt your head and eyes. It's not going to replace 3 decades of using monitors.
>3) the resolution
That'll be fixed in the next iteration.
The problem with going 4k~8k res is that you'd need an expensive rig to do it justice,and the average normie just doesn't have that, so they'd have no market.
Also, people keep saying $400~600 for VR is expensive, but keep in mind every other attempt at this in the past made it cost damn near 10grand for such experiences. The fact it's even in consumer-level price range is a huge step.
that would be neat. but i think my point still stands. that's more like when sidescrolling platformers add 3d rendering. it's not really going to sell people on vr, and it'll only become ubiquitous after the vr paradigm has been established elsewhere.
Fair enough, it was just an idea.
> Red Alert 2 VR
Want
As far as the graphics goes, I think some VR environments feel more 'real' than in real life. It's insane.
If devs really work on it, I think some pretty amazing things can be achieved. For starters, interacting with objects could use more precision.
For example, when you pick up a pillow, it just feels like you're rotating a cube. Instead, it should have more of a soft property so that the mesh deforms based on where you touch it, sorta like cloth physics.
If they completely get rid of the screen door effect and blurry edges, then I may not want to return back to reality
I want to get a headset. Should I get a vive or Oculus? the Oculus is cheaper
I only have the Vive, but I've heard the Oculus's tracking isn't as good as the Vive, and you need 3 lightboxes setup instead of the 2 that Vive uses.
Why not go to a local BestBuy and try both?
Not following the rules in rec room, and drawing 3d dicks. Yea vr is not meant to be sitting down
vr honestly sucks.
>early adopter been using this for like a year now
>currently collecting dust
psvr?
>early adopter
>not a dev
Well, that's why.
The novelty of it isn't going to last forever, not unless you're a developer or content creator.
>This will still cause motion sickness since your inner ear isn't being stimulated
This isn't going to be the case in the future. When automobiles came, everyone got motion sickness from riding them. As it turns out, this wasn't the case once you had gotten used to it. Humans adapt to their environment.
Automobiles also got more stable and better handling.
Anyway, It doesn't matter how real looking VR gets, you'll always feel like a ghost in your setting. Can't smell or feel anything.
No clue how one would virtually simulate smell or touch. I don't think it's possible unless your entire brain was wired, which eons away.
>Automobiles also got more stable and better handling.
and what would stop VR from ''getting more stable and better handling''?
it was said that cars will never reach over 40mph or that airplanes will never get used in war, and guess what...
I'm not saying it won't, I'm agreeing with you. I think the locomotion pad will work just fine for moving around in VR.
My second part was saying that 'true VR' is still a far away dream, even with walking and 8k res.
Fixing motion sickness would be a direct route to increasing immersion. There's already a lot of tests being done with vestibular stimulation, it could help add a sense of momentum and speed, especially for sim games. I say anything that gets us closer to 1:1 is worth investing in.
Smell would be hard since you would need to refill cartridges constantly. There's a company in nippon named vaqso that's working on this, but right now they only can use three smells at a time.
Other than that, I can see touch being approximated, not without difficulty. You could have an underarmor like form fitting shirt/pants that has a layer of honeycomb shaped actuator that press down on you when a current is passed. Or use electric stimulation on your muscles to localize a particular sensation. Check out AxonVR, they're heavily in the R&D phase, but they have a good vision and a prototype.
>you'll always feel like blablabla
>you'll always
>always
learn what words mean then
Virtual reality is the worst technology. Why would I want to be inside a simulation inside a simulation? Garbage.
Yes,with current tech that doesn't integrate your brain, it will always be that.
>HaptX™ Skin is a haptic textile that simulates lifelike touch, allowing you to feel the texture, shape, motion, vibration, and temperature of virtual objects. HaptX Skeleton is a lightweight exoskeleton that extends the realism by applying physical forces to your body
Well shit the future is bright.
They still got a long way to go, but they by far are the most ambitious
These never made much sense but in 6dof VR they are a pure waste of time.
*buuuurp* g-god isn't real morty XDD